08 civic SI vs 97 Mustang v6?

Dfeeds · February 15th, 2011, 01:00 AM

I'm curious how exactly a true drag race like this would turn out. Reason for my asking is because my good friend owns the civic and I have the mustang. It brings some fun arguments between his lil toy car and my Found On Road Dead car but we've never really raced (for many reasons).

It's also manual vs. manual, his car is stock and mine has a CAI and dual exhaust with 2.5" tubing. Driver wise I'd put us both at the same (realistically that's not the case but for argument sake) however he has no idea how to keep his civic in its V-tech range which IMHO makes a HUGE impact on this scenario.

tommy93 · February 15th, 2011, 01:02 AM

he wins easily
/end thread

Dfeeds · February 15th, 2011, 01:07 AM

I doubt it's THAT easy to know... I drove his car and it wasn't anything special. I figured I'd at least have him off the line.

Blown284 · February 15th, 2011, 01:21 AM

He'll win. 97 gt's are like 150 hp (correct me if I'm wrong) and your mods didn't add much whp. He's @ 197 stock and keeping a Honda in vtec just means keeping the engine @ high rpm...its not that hard..

If you went with some gears I'd say you but as it sits he'll win unless he really sucks at driving.

mcqueen · February 15th, 2011, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by Dfeeds

I doubt it's THAT easy to know... I drove his car and it wasn't anything special. I figured I'd at least have him off the line.

It is that easy. The newer Si's can take the split port V6's (99-04) that are rated at 190-193hp at the crank and has 3.27 gears. Your car isn't split port, rated at 150hp at the crank, and I believe you have 2.73 gears. If they can beat the faster V6s, they can definitely beat the slower V6s.

mcqueen · February 15th, 2011, 03:04 AM

Originally Posted by Blown284

If you went with some gears I'd say you but as it sits he'll win unless he really sucks at driving.

With gears the Mustang could probably get the Civic off the line, but in the end I think the Civic will still win. 94-98 V6s are ridiculously slow.

mp4 player · February 15th, 2011, 03:07 AM

Originally Posted by mcqueen

It is that easy. The newer Si's can take the split port V6's (99-04) that are rated at 190-193hp at the crank and has 3.27 gears. Your car isn't split port, rated at 150hp at the crank, and I believe you have 2.73 gears. If they can beat the faster V6s, they can definitely beat the slower V6s.

Exactly.

A CAI and exhaust aren't going to really do anything to help either.

mcqueen · February 15th, 2011, 03:13 AM

Originally Posted by mp4 player

Exactly.

A CAI and exhaust aren't going to really do anything to help either.

Yeah, our cars don't respond well to those mods. We get maybe 2 or 3 hp from those (with basically all of that coming from the CAI).

ESG-642T · February 15th, 2011, 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by Dfeeds

I doubt it's THAT easy to know... I drove his car and it wasn't anything special. I figured I'd at least have him off the line.

Answer:

Originally Posted by tommy93

he wins easily
/end thread

Bone stock they also have 2 step....

MRKsD3 · February 15th, 2011, 11:16 AM

....GT would win though right?

fastpony · February 15th, 2011, 11:28 AM

Trust me with your mods. i also had a cai and divorced duals gt take offs, and a 08 civic beat me. he'll win hate to say it.

6ixer · February 15th, 2011, 11:50 AM

Yea dude honestly thts why I hate hondas cuz there drivers get a boner when they say or hear vtec.....vtec in most hondas is above 4500 rpms and wat hapens is on the cam it locks the lobes so tht its now a diff cam profile making the lift and duration higher and longer......with out vtec hondas r just regular....import v6/I4....and if tht were the case they'd be slow and u be able to beat em....

Thts just my two cents on how I feel about honda and there vtec

6ixer · February 15th, 2011, 11:54 AM

oh and just to let u know (based off of my friends honda) hondas have a giant power band...well hudge rpm range till the hit red line which I think is 7.5/8k which is retarted cuz if my cars red line was tht hight I'm not gonna run it tht hight just because I havt hit red line yet.....I mean cmon....7k rpm wtf tht unreal I mean gts I think r bottom line 6k. But after a while the tourqe curve jsut plummets

463 · February 15th, 2011, 12:06 PM

I'll chime in. I had a 08 Si sedan. I have no idea what the numbers would be but it ran neck and neck with my buddy's 08 Titan. So low 15's high 14's.

sc55509 · February 15th, 2011, 12:20 PM

The new 11's redline at 7000, its not that absurd anymore.

6ixer · February 15th, 2011, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by sc55509

The new 11's redline at 7000, its not that absurd anymore.

Yea but would u ever push ur car tht far?????

goren813 · February 15th, 2011, 01:05 PM

Civic all day. Maybe you get off the line first but he's reeling you in quick and no way you're keeping up in top end.

Blown284 · February 15th, 2011, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by 6ixer

Yea but would u ever push ur car tht far?????

1.. Gd dmn itz annyng 2 rd ur psts typd lke ths!!!!!

2. 7K isn't really shit on a Honda motor. Back in my ricing days I had a B18C5 that I'd run to 8.5k and it was begging for more. It all depends on how the motor is built. And a manufacturer is going to set the red line conservatively so that dumb ass kids aren't coming in all the time with blown motors from winding them out, that would cost too much in warranty coverage.

6ixer · February 15th, 2011, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Blown284

1.. Gd dmn itz annyng 2 rd ur psts typd lke ths!!!!!

2. 7K isn't really shit on a Honda motor. Back in my ricing days I had a B18C5 that I'd run to 8.5k and it was begging for more. It all depends on how the motor is built. And a manufacturer is going to set the red line conservatively so that dumb ass kids aren't coming in all the time with blown motors from winding them out, that would cost too much in warranty coverage.

sc55509 · February 15th, 2011, 03:05 PM

And to answer your question yes I shift around 6800 it was set up that was for a reason

February 15th, 2011, 01:00 AM	#1
Dfeeds Regular 1997 Mustang v6 manual Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 reviews	08 civic SI vs 97 Mustang v6? I'm curious how exactly a true drag race like this would turn out. Reason for my asking is because my good friend owns the civic and I have the mustang. It brings some fun arguments between his lil toy car and my Found On Road Dead car but we've never really raced (for many reasons). It's also manual vs. manual, his car is stock and mine has a CAI and dual exhaust with 2.5" tubing. Driver wise I'd put us both at the same (realistically that's not the case but for argument sake) however he has no idea how to keep his civic in its V-tech range which IMHO makes a HUGE impact on this scenario.

February 15th, 2011, 01:21 AM	#4
Blown284 MM Fanatic 1966 Mustang Coupe Won't See The Track Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: The Devil's Porch Posts: 3,370 iTrader: 0 reviews	He'll win. 97 gt's are like 150 hp (correct me if I'm wrong) and your mods didn't add much whp. He's @ 197 stock and keeping a Honda in vtec just means keeping the engine @ high rpm...its not that hard.. If you went with some gears I'd say you but as it sits he'll win unless he really sucks at driving. __________________ Previous Rides 1997 Blown Cobra-Sold & Missed 2004 Lightning-Traded 2001 Turbo GT-Traded 1966 Mustang Coupe-Sold 2006 Audi A3-sold 1998 Bagged Silverado- Sold 1997 BMW AC Schnitzer 540i S5

February 15th, 2011, 11:16 AM	#10
MRKsD3 Wing on, wing off... JULY 2011 ROTM Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Compton, CA Posts: 4,232 iTrader: 0 reviews	....GT would win though right? __________________ SIG BY WABASHACOBRA99

February 15th, 2011, 11:50 AM	#12
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea dude honestly thts why I hate hondas cuz there drivers get a boner when they say or hear vtec.....vtec in most hondas is above 4500 rpms and wat hapens is on the cam it locks the lobes so tht its now a diff cam profile making the lift and duration higher and longer......with out vtec hondas r just regular....import v6/I4....and if tht were the case they'd be slow and u be able to beat em.... Thts just my two cents on how I feel about honda and there vtec __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

February 15th, 2011, 11:54 AM	#13
6ixer Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 mustang v6 14.6@99.68 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: east greenbush, ny Posts: 1,567 Blog Entries: 3 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh and just to let u know (based off of my friends honda) hondas have a giant power band...well hudge rpm range till the hit red line which I think is 7.5/8k which is retarted cuz if my cars red line was tht hight I'm not gonna run it tht hight just because I havt hit red line yet.....I mean cmon....7k rpm wtf tht unreal I mean gts I think r bottom line 6k. But after a while the tourqe curve jsut plummets __________________ Ported heads, comp cams cam, AM CAI, posi'd rear with 3.73 gears, flowmaster exhaust Fixed clutch!!!!! "My mustang likes a good ol' fashion bowl of rice....especially fried"

February 15th, 2011, 01:02 AM	#2
tommy93 Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang Join Date: May 2010 Location: East Bay, California Posts: 2,158 iTrader: 0 reviews	he wins easily /end thread

February 15th, 2011, 01:07 AM	#3
Dfeeds Regular 1997 Mustang v6 manual Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Illinois Posts: 91 iTrader: 0 reviews	I doubt it's THAT easy to know... I drove his car and it wasn't anything special. I figured I'd at least have him off the line.

February 15th, 2011, 11:28 AM	#11
fastpony Regular 1998 ford mustang gtclone Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 488 iTrader: 0 reviews	Trust me with your mods. i also had a cai and divorced duals gt take offs, and a 08 civic beat me. he'll win hate to say it.

February 15th, 2011, 12:06 PM	#14
463 Regular Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 134 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'll chime in. I had a 08 Si sedan. I have no idea what the numbers would be but it ran neck and neck with my buddy's 08 Titan. So low 15's high 14's.

February 15th, 2011, 12:20 PM	#15
sc55509 Hardcore Enthusiast 2011 V6 13ish@105 mph Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,583 iTrader: 0 reviews	The new 11's redline at 7000, its not that absurd anymore. __________________ C&L cold air intake SCT X3 tuner Ford Racing 3.73's Flowmasters BBK Lontubes BBK O/R x pipe UMI LCA's

February 15th, 2011, 01:05 PM	#17
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L & '05 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,619 iTrader: 0 reviews	Civic all day. Maybe you get off the line first but he's reeling you in quick and no way you're keeping up in top end. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

February 15th, 2011, 03:05 PM	#20
sc55509 Hardcore Enthusiast 2011 V6 13ish@105 mph Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Lubbock, TX Posts: 1,583 iTrader: 0 reviews	And to answer your question yes I shift around 6800 it was set up that was for a reason __________________ C&L cold air intake SCT X3 tuner Ford Racing 3.73's Flowmasters BBK Lontubes BBK O/R x pipe UMI LCA's

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