permanent water spots?

08blkgt500 · July 8th, 2009, 07:50 AM

i was away at college last couple semesters, and id have to park my car several blocks from the campus. i couldnt just put a car cover on because, 1. i have to display my parking permit, 2. im afraid someone would steal it. so reuniting with it about after first 3 weeks of first semester, i found out that i parked right next to a water sprinkler. so in the mix of being sprayed with water daily, being in a dusty environment, and high 90s to 100+ degrees of sun. my car was a mess. i had to take it home that weekend to wash it all day. left to find numerous water spots all over the hood from that sprinkler. i took it to a professional car wash and had them try to get it out. after paying about 70 bucks, they told me they got "most" of it out. there are some still visible on the paint, and they say they just couldnt do it on the stripes, fearing itll get damaged.

long story short. i never parked there again for the remainder of the year. got 10+ tickets for parking it on campus right next to my dorm... well worth the price.

sorry for the long story. now i have time in the summer, does anyone might have a solution to this?

PS im afraid to wax it myself, fearing that i could have swirls in the paint because i have to park outside in the blazing sun...

ridinfast03 · July 8th, 2009, 09:16 AM

Same thing happened to grandmother's 300c black. Tried clay bars, expensive waxes, and etc...Our body shop guy that works on our work fleet said that acid or lime from the hard water was the culprit and being cooked in the sun day after day was able to penetrate the clear coat. Long story short the paint had to be polished and then re-sealed. Come out better than showroom.

Good luck

weems · July 8th, 2009, 09:34 AM

If you can't wax the car yourself, then you def will not be able to remove those spots. And be prepared to pay upwards of 500 or more to get them out.

08blkgt500 · July 8th, 2009, 09:43 AM

500!? and i was looking forward to buy black fr500s or black gt500 rims... =[ being a college guy does not help...

weems · July 8th, 2009, 06:36 PM

Originally Posted by 08blkgt500

500!? and i was looking forward to buy black fr500s or black gt500 rims... =[ being a college guy does not help...

You might be lucky to find someone with know-how that will be able to help you for cheaper, but its not likely. Stay away from those schmucks who tell you 100 bucks or so, because they will fuck your paint up. Anyone who knows anything about a good detail will know that your paint will require hours and hours of labor, and will not do it for cheap.

I just got finished reading a thread on SVTP about a vette that had a similar problem, and the detailer made it a point to let everyone know that the price had a comma in it.

zinc02GT · July 8th, 2009, 06:44 PM

Thos damned water spots are tough as shit dude. Weems is not playing about that price either.

I would expect them to use a compund and make a few passes with it then follow it up with less abrasive polishes. All in all you'd be looking at like a solid 20 hours of detailing if the guys takes his time and does is correctly.

mustanginky · July 8th, 2009, 06:49 PM

could you post a link to that weems?

fwiw, i have had water spots for the last few years i haven't been able to get rid of. i think i need to step up to a compund. i'm a detailer but i haven't compounded yet. and yes i use a porter cable and poorboys ssr 2.5 and 1.

mustanginky · July 8th, 2009, 06:56 PM

n/m weems found it. amazing work!

weems · July 8th, 2009, 09:02 PM

Originally Posted by mustanginky

n/m weems found it. amazing work!

Yeah he did a great job, that would be something hard for me to tackle, and I know I wouldn't touch it for less than 900 or so. But those results will never be achieved with a PC.

StangGTR07 · July 8th, 2009, 10:45 PM

Water spots from a sprinkler suck. Had water spots from a sprinkler running of well water that looked horrible on a white truck. Thanks to some 3M Fine Cut and a little time got it fixed up. Sorry, not a solution for you if you afraid to wax it, but definitely find somebody that knows what they are doing and won't damage your paint.

NastyFX4 · July 10th, 2009, 04:50 PM

There are products that can remove some water spots. It's a very potent chemical that needs to be used with care. However, water spotting can cause some serious water etching in your clearcoat.

weems · July 10th, 2009, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by NastyStang113

There are products that can remove some water spots. It's a very potent chemical that needs to be used with care. However, water spotting can cause some serious water etching in your clearcoat.

If it sat in front of a sprinkler everyday for two weeks in 100+ heat, that car has clearcoat issues.

zinc02GT · July 10th, 2009, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by weems

Yeah he did a great job, that would be something hard for me to tackle, and I know I wouldn't touch it for less than 900 or so. But those results will never be achieved with a PC.

I saw that car on the autogeek.net forums. It was basically the exact same post. That Z06 was seriously fucked to hell. I couldn't believe somebody would let a car like that get to that point.

trcons · July 12th, 2009, 06:34 PM

Vinegar will remove them. Dilute 2 to 1 first wet a paper towel with it and keep it wet with a spray bottle for 10 minutes or so total cost under 5 bucks if you have to buy a spray bottle and a roll of paper towels lol. 900.00 to remove water spots you guys kill me.

weems · July 12th, 2009, 07:13 PM

Originally Posted by trcons

Vinegar will remove them. Dilute 2 to 1 first wet a paper towel with it and keep it wet with a spray bottle for 10 minutes or so total cost under 5 bucks if you have to buy a spray bottle and a roll of paper towels lol. 900.00 to remove water spots you guys kill me.

No it will not. How in the world do you think that vinegar will remove ETCHED clearcoat?

ridinfast03 · July 13th, 2009, 09:17 AM

We know vinegar will take off fresh water spots but it will not un-do the damage that water spots and extreme heat have done in the time frame the op gave us. Not to mention his signiture leads me to believe he is riding black paint which only makes it worse.

IloveMYcar · July 13th, 2009, 09:51 AM

Get this shit called DUCKY. I get it at a boat marina by my house... Its MADE for water spots... takes them out like nothing..

weems · July 13th, 2009, 11:57 AM

Originally Posted by ridinfast03

We know vinegar will take off fresh water spots but it will not un-do the damage that water spots and extreme heat have done in the time frame the op gave us. Not to mention his signiture leads me to
believe he is riding black paint which only makes it worse.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by IloveMYcar

Get this shit called DUCKY. I get it at a boat marina by my house... Its MADE for water spots... takes them out like nothing..

What do you guys not understand? If the clearcoat is etched then nothing will just take it off. The clearcoat will have to be leveled.

mustanginky · July 13th, 2009, 07:34 PM

people just don't get it weems. they're getting etching confused with spots

zinc02GT · July 13th, 2009, 08:14 PM

July 8th, 2009, 07:50 AM	#1
08blkgt500 AKA Greased-up Deaf Guy 2008 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Jose, CA/Denver, CO Posts: 9,614 iTrader: 0 reviews	permanent water spots? i was away at college last couple semesters, and id have to park my car several blocks from the campus. i couldnt just put a car cover on because, 1. i have to display my parking permit, 2. im afraid someone would steal it. so reuniting with it about after first 3 weeks of first semester, i found out that i parked right next to a water sprinkler. so in the mix of being sprayed with water daily, being in a dusty environment, and high 90s to 100+ degrees of sun. my car was a mess. i had to take it home that weekend to wash it all day. left to find numerous water spots all over the hood from that sprinkler. i took it to a professional car wash and had them try to get it out. after paying about 70 bucks, they told me they got "most" of it out. there are some still visible on the paint, and they say they just couldnt do it on the stripes, fearing itll get damaged. long story short. i never parked there again for the remainder of the year. got 10+ tickets for parking it on campus right next to my dorm... well worth the price. sorry for the long story. now i have time in the summer, does anyone might have a solution to this? PS im afraid to wax it myself, fearing that i could have swirls in the paint because i have to park outside in the blazing sun... __________________ MM Cobra Club #24 Last edited by 08blkgt500; July 8th, 2009 at 07:53 AM.

July 8th, 2009, 09:43 AM	#4
08blkgt500 AKA Greased-up Deaf Guy 2008 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Jose, CA/Denver, CO Posts: 9,614 iTrader: 0 reviews	500!? and i was looking forward to buy black fr500s or black gt500 rims... =[ being a college guy does not help... __________________ MM Cobra Club #24

July 8th, 2009, 06:44 PM	#6
zinc02GT HUGE RED HEADED DUDE W/FIVE-OH 2011 Mustang GT 12.1 @ 116 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	Thos damned water spots are tough as shit dude. Weems is not playing about that price either. I would expect them to use a compund and make a few passes with it then follow it up with less abrasive polishes. All in all you'd be looking at like a solid 20 hours of detailing if the guys takes his time and does is correctly. __________________ Mods in garage. New mods, new track times soon.

July 8th, 2009, 06:49 PM	#7
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 3,984 iTrader: 2 reviews	could you post a link to that weems? fwiw, i have had water spots for the last few years i haven't been able to get rid of. i think i need to step up to a compund. i'm a detailer but i haven't compounded yet. and yes i use a porter cable and poorboys ssr 2.5 and 1. __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

July 8th, 2009, 06:56 PM	#8
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 3,984 iTrader: 2 reviews	n/m weems found it. amazing work! __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

July 8th, 2009, 09:16 AM	#2
ridinfast03 Regular 2001 Mustang V6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 76 iTrader: 0 reviews	Same thing happened to grandmother's 300c black. Tried clay bars, expensive waxes, and etc...Our body shop guy that works on our work fleet said that acid or lime from the hard water was the culprit and being cooked in the sun day after day was able to penetrate the clear coat. Long story short the paint had to be polished and then re-sealed. Come out better than showroom. Good luck

July 8th, 2009, 09:34 AM	#3
weems Tech Exchange Head Honcho 2003 SVT Cobra 11.70 @ 121 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Forsyth/Statesboro, GA Posts: 9,055 iTrader: 3 reviews	If you can't wax the car yourself, then you def will not be able to remove those spots. And be prepared to pay upwards of 500 or more to get them out.

July 8th, 2009, 10:45 PM	#10
StangGTR07 Premium Member 2007 Mustang GT 5 speed Join Date: May 2009 Location: Alabama Posts: 2,171 iTrader: 0 reviews	Water spots from a sprinkler suck. Had water spots from a sprinkler running of well water that looked horrible on a white truck. Thanks to some 3M Fine Cut and a little time got it fixed up. Sorry, not a solution for you if you afraid to wax it, but definitely find somebody that knows what they are doing and won't damage your paint. __________________ Sig Portfolio -New and improved.

July 10th, 2009, 04:50 PM	#11
NastyFX4 Made in U.S.A. 2011 F150 FX4 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 15,030 iTrader: 8 reviews	There are products that can remove some water spots. It's a very potent chemical that needs to be used with care. However, water spotting can cause some serious water etching in your clearcoat. __________________ NastyStang's Garage Sale!!

July 12th, 2009, 06:34 PM	#14
trcons Look Ma! My First Post! Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Vinegar will remove them. Dilute 2 to 1 first wet a paper towel with it and keep it wet with a spray bottle for 10 minutes or so total cost under 5 bucks if you have to buy a spray bottle and a roll of paper towels lol. 900.00 to remove water spots you guys kill me.

July 13th, 2009, 09:17 AM	#16
ridinfast03 Regular 2001 Mustang V6 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Indiana Posts: 76 iTrader: 0 reviews	We know vinegar will take off fresh water spots but it will not un-do the damage that water spots and extreme heat have done in the time frame the op gave us. Not to mention his signiture leads me to believe he is riding black paint which only makes it worse.

July 13th, 2009, 09:51 AM	#17
IloveMYcar Enthusiast 2004 GT Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Illinois Posts: 515 iTrader: 0 reviews	Get this shit called DUCKY. I get it at a boat marina by my house... Its MADE for water spots... takes them out like nothing.. __________________ ~2004 Mustang GT 40th ~2006 636 kawasaki ninja

July 13th, 2009, 07:34 PM	#19
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 3,984 iTrader: 2 reviews	people just don't get it weems. they're getting etching confused with spots __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

July 13th, 2009, 08:14 PM	#20
zinc02GT HUGE RED HEADED DUDE W/FIVE-OH 2011 Mustang GT 12.1 @ 116 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,349 iTrader: 1 reviews	__________________ Mods in garage. New mods, new track times soon.

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