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Old June 15th, 2010, 02:56 PM   #1
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this might be a bad question, but can you wax your car too often?
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Yes you can wax it too often and it will build up residue rewax when you feel and see your mustang isnt repelling water as well. And its not a bad question man.
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Yes you can wax it too often and it will build up residue rewax when you feel and see your mustang isnt repelling water as well. And its not a bad question man.
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If you wax without removing the old wax you begin to get a build up. What will happen is this: say your wax last 3 months. You rewax your car once a month without removing the current wax. 3 months down the road when your bottom layer (first layer) of wax fades, so does ALL the layers on top of it, leaving you with no wax until you wax again.

Either wait till your current wax fades, or do a IPA (rubbing alchohol) wipe down before applying new wax. I personally like to wash the car with Dawn Dish Soap followed by a IPA wipe down.

Chemical Guys also sells a wash soap that can be used the strip wax off the car.
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too much waxing can cause hazing
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One overlap of wax isn't bad. Everytime I wax (and the pros will tell you the same), a good conmbination of two waxes will go along way. And some of my favorite waxes require minium of two coats too.
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too much waxing can cause hazing
I don't know where you heard that, but I belive you are mistaken. I have never hard of to many coats of wax causing haze...

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One overlap of wax isn't bad. Everytime I wax (and the pros will tell you the same), a good conmbination of two waxes will go along way. And some of my favorite waxes require minium of two coats too.
Two waxes? I think you mean a combination of a Wax and a Synthetic Sealant. The most effective way to do it is to lay down a coat for Natural Carnuba based Wax followed by a coat of Synthetic paint sealant. That gives you roughly 4-5 months of protection depending on your location, wash habits, and driving conditions.
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Originally Posted by dannyboy281 View Post
Yes you can wax it too often and it will build up residue rewax when you feel and see your mustang isnt repelling water as well. And its not a bad question man.
Compeltely wrong.


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If you wax without removing the old wax you begin to get a build up. What will happen is this: say your wax last 3 months. You rewax your car once a month without removing the current wax. 3 months down the road when your bottom layer (first layer) of wax fades, so does ALL the layers on top of it, leaving you with no wax until you wax again.

Either wait till your current wax fades, or do a IPA (rubbing alchohol) wipe down before applying new wax. I personally like to wash the car with Dawn Dish Soap followed by a IPA wipe down.

Chemical Guys also sells a wash soap that can be used the strip wax off the car.
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too much waxing can cause hazing
Completely wrong.

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One overlap of wax isn't bad. Everytime I wax (and the pros will tell you the same), a good conmbination of two waxes will go along way. And some of my favorite waxes require minium of two coats too.
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I don't know where you heard that, but I belive you are mistaken. I have never hard of to many coats of wax causing haze...



Two waxes? I think you mean a combination of a Wax and a Synthetic Sealant. The most effective way to do it is to lay down a coat for Natural Carnuba based Wax followed by a coat of Synthetic paint sealant. That gives you roughly 4-5 months of protection depending on your location, wash habits, and driving conditions.
Nope some waxes blend together. Look at Dodo Juice for once. Mixing Purple Haze and Supernatural is pretty common.

ALOT of people will do 2 coats of a wax. There is no set standard where it HAS to have a sealant AND a wax. you can do 2 coats of a nuba without any ill effects excepet the durability and even then by the time you rewax you should still have PLENTY of protection left.

As it stands I have Collinite 845 and a layer of Natty's Red on my car. It's held up since April and still beads and neither one of those are sealants.
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Originally Posted by zinc02GT View Post
Nope some waxes blend together. Look at Dodo Juice for once. Mixing Purple Haze and Supernatural is pretty common.

ALOT of people will do 2 coats of a wax. There is no set standard where it HAS to have a sealant AND a wax. you can do 2 coats of a nuba without any ill effects excepet the durability and even then by the time you rewax you should still have PLENTY of protection left.

As it stands I have Collinite 845 and a layer of Natty's Red on my car. It's held up since April and still beads and neither one of those are sealants.
I never said that its not common to do two coats of wax. Simply that I had never heard of mixing two DIFFERENT coats of wax. I stand corrected, just never heard of that.

Also, beading is not a indication of a wax/sealants status... you should know that
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Technically it is.... How else do we judge protection? You can't "SEE" the wax, and wax beads water. A good eye can tell the difference between regular water bead and wax bead.
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Technically it is.... How else do we judge protection? You can't "SEE" the wax, and wax beads water. A good eye can tell the difference between regular water bead and wax bead.
Well, some waxes sheet water more than bead. Plus a smooth clean surface will bead water. It is a good way to judge it, but its not fail proof.

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Compeltely wrong.
Am I really completely wrong I got my information from reading an article from Detailed Image maybe my wording came out wrong sorry. I should have posted these links instead of doing the explanation. These are the links I got my information from. One of the articles even states "you dont want to layer wax on top of old wax" thats what i meant i didnt mean not to apply coats sorry for the bad wording.

How Long Do Waxes Last and When Should I Reapply? – Detailed Image

http://www.detailedimage.com/Auto-De...arnauba-Waxes/
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by washing the car with dawn will it remove the old wax by its self or dawn and rubbing alcohol remove it better.
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So four coats of wax throughout the summer would be overkill? For example?
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by washing the car with dawn will it remove the old wax by its self or dawn and rubbing alcohol remove it better.
It will help, by Dawn will not remove it all. do an IPA wipe down to be sure.

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So four coats of wax throughout the summer would be overkill? For example?
As long as you remove the old wax first, your ok. However a typical carnuba wax will last you 3 months.
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hey guys, this is eric who posted the article on DI

what I meant by the comment of "you dont want to just layer..." was this:
layering wax upon wax upon wax will still only have one true layer of wax bonded to the paint. The rest of the layers are going to be removed more easily since they arent bonding to anything solid, just removable wax. So those people who say they have 13 layers of wax on the car, they dont. They just applied it 13 times, but removed a little of the previous layer by adding the second layer. I am not talking a lot of removal, but a tad.

Waxing once a month, you are not giving the wax a true bond to the paint. Think of all the washings, the driving conditions, the environmental fallout that is on the car that has bonded to the paint (the stuff that just doesnt come off the paint with ease while washing). where do you think that is going if you dont "prep" the car for wax? Its going to stay on the car while you wax over the top of it, leaving the wax still not bonding to the paint. Thats is why a pre-wax cleaner is a good option for those who have the time. The general rule is waiting 12 hours or so between layers and layer them back to back for a "good 3 layers protection".

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Originally Posted by Zatrekaz View Post
It will help, by Dawn will not remove it all. do an IPA wipe down to be sure.



As long as you remove the old wax first, your ok. However a typical carnuba wax will last you 3 months.
what carnuba is giving you 3 months? most I get out of them is about 4 week-6weeks
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What are some good Wax Wash Remover you can get at locals stores ?
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What are some good Wax Wash Remover you can get at locals stores ?
Dawn would be your best bet. To my knowledge there is not OTC stuff that could do what you want. I own Chemical Guys Citruswash + Gloss and if it is diluted correctly it can remove old wax.
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Originally Posted by Envious Eric View Post
what carnuba is giving you 3 months? most I get out of them is about 4 week-6weeks
Notice I used the word "Typical".

How many miles you get from any LSP depends on many factors. Such as your location, driving conditions, washing style, ect. Now.. if you are only getting 4-6 weeks (1 - 1 1/2 months), then you are either washing incorrectly or are stripping it before it really IS gone.

What makes you say you only get that long? How do you know its gone in 4-6 weeks?
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