Skip the PC and buy the flex?

Gebor · November 6th, 2011, 08:59 AM

My mustang has some heavy swirling and defects. What can I expect from a Flex that I cant get from the PC? How much harder is a rotary to learn when I have 0 experience? I have an older explorer dd that I can practice on and do not mind getting a couple buffer burns in. I just want to buy once so that I can invest in other things.

VaderGT · November 6th, 2011, 11:11 AM

what flex are you talking about..the 3401 or a rotary flex? The flex 3401 will NOT bog down..it fights you more as it will want to walk if not kept flat. it take more energy to use then a PC because of that..I had a Flex and a PC..I then sold my PC for a Griots and use only the MF pads and the 7/8" Hydrotech pads and I sold my flex because I had no use for it. The flex is a much more powerful machine and can get the job done with certain situations faster..but the Griots and the MF pads for me prove to be when I compared with my flex to produce faster results with a better finish.

brokenweasel · November 6th, 2011, 02:21 PM

It really sounds like the Meguiars microfiber pads and compounds and the Griots Garage orbital is the way to go. Just about everyone I know who's used the MF pads has loved them. I think that is the setup Kohrs has as directed by people on here. Maybe he'll check in and let you know what he thinks.

The PC will get the job done, it just might take a little longer. But at the same time, people have been using them for years, and will continue to use them. As far as learning on a rotary goes, that is going to be a lot harder than you think, and here's why: not all paints are the same, not all clear coats are the same thickness, and not all of them will respond to the same polish, pad or compound the same way. I guess the real answer is, how much money do you have to buy all the necessary products, and how much time do you have to practice and learn how to use them?

Gebor · November 6th, 2011, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by brokenweasel

It really sounds like the Meguiars microfiber pads and compounds and the Griots Garage orbital is the way to go. Just about everyone I know who's used the MF pads has loved them. I think that is the setup Kohrs has as directed by people on here. Maybe he'll check in and let you know what he thinks.

The PC will get the job done, it just might take a little longer. But at the same time, people have been using them for years, and will continue to use them. As far as learning on a rotary goes, that is going to be a lot harder than you think, and here's why: not all paints are the same, not all clear coats are the same thickness, and not all of them will respond to the same polish, pad or compound the same way. I guess the real answer is, how much money do you have to buy all the necessary products, and how much time do you have to practice and learn how to use them?

I have enough for either setup. The mustang is in storage until may so I am in no rush. I was thinking about grabbing a couple panels from a scrapyard to practice on. Based on what I have read I think I will go with the pc. Even if I get a rotary in the future it seems like I will still get plenty of use out of the PC. Thanks guys.

Gebor · November 6th, 2011, 04:50 PM

Is this the one you wanted me to look at?

brokenweasel · November 6th, 2011, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Gebor

Is this the one you wanted me to look at?

Thats the one, you may be able to shop around for a better price. Here is a pretty good deal from a very easy to deal with on here if you decide on a rotary. Maybe get both the PC and this?:

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-products.html

VaderGT · November 6th, 2011, 07:23 PM

Plus it is a good bit more powerful then the PC..comparing it to my old PC it takes much more force to make it bog down..my old PC would bog down constantly and I wanted to throw it threw a wall sometimes cause of that..I dont have that issue with the griots.
nice thing about the Griots..its a lifetime warranty..no matter how it brakes they will replace it no question asked.

Zatrekaz · November 7th, 2011, 07:02 AM

Do NOT start learning paint correction on a Rotary. That is just asking for trouble.

Originally Posted by brokenweasel

Thats the one, you may be able to shop around for a better price. Here is a pretty good deal from a very easy to deal with on here if you decide on a rotary. Maybe get both the PC and this?:

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-products.html

He sold his PC awhile back... just the Makita for sale now.

EDIT... checked the thread, Makita is sold now also. I hope OP did not buy it to start learning on Lol.

dannyboy281 · November 7th, 2011, 10:30 AM

He didn't man Corey bought it:-) I suggest the op invest in the 3401 if he has the funds for it. Phil has some great kits for it check it out on detailer domain and you get a discount for being a member here just use the discount code its either one of theses: Mustang or Mustangs

DetailersDomain · November 7th, 2011, 01:18 PM

either machine will do the job.

I can tell you that the PC has made a bit of a comeback with the Meg's DA Microfiber System.

Porter Cable Kit with Meg's DA Microfiber System.

VaderGT · November 7th, 2011, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by DetailersDomain

either machine will do the job.

I can tell you that the PC has made a bit of a comeback with the Meg's DA Microfiber System.

Porter Cable Kit with Meg's DA Microfiber System.

Id buy that..the whole kit is cheaper then just the flex and it will in my opinion is on par with the flex with the new MF pads

sikedsyko · November 7th, 2011, 09:25 PM

Personally I'd get this kit. It's a little bit more money, but is a much more diverse kit than the MF system.

https://detailersdomain.com/Porter-C...dle_p_257.html

dannyboy281 · November 8th, 2011, 01:03 AM

I would get this kit or the one Phil posted up.

http://www.detailersdomain.com/Flex-...dle_p_270.html

sikedsyko · November 8th, 2011, 03:24 PM

Is the flex really worth an extra $200 though? I just don't see it adding that much value...

VaderGT · November 8th, 2011, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by sikedsyko

Is the flex really worth an extra $200 though? I just don't see it adding that much value...

I don't feel it is comparing it from owning the pc. Flex. And griots. I sold pc and flex. And just use my griots

November 6th, 2011, 08:59 AM	#1
Gebor Regular 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cleveland Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	Skip the PC and buy the flex? My mustang has some heavy swirling and defects. What can I expect from a Flex that I cant get from the PC? How much harder is a rotary to learn when I have 0 experience? I have an older explorer dd that I can practice on and do not mind getting a couple buffer burns in. I just want to buy once so that I can invest in other things.

November 6th, 2011, 11:11 AM	#2
VaderGT Enthusiast 2010 GT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 715 iTrader: 1 reviews	what flex are you talking about..the 3401 or a rotary flex? The flex 3401 will NOT bog down..it fights you more as it will want to walk if not kept flat. it take more energy to use then a PC because of that..I had a Flex and a PC..I then sold my PC for a Griots and use only the MF pads and the 7/8" Hydrotech pads and I sold my flex because I had no use for it. The flex is a much more powerful machine and can get the job done with certain situations faster..but the Griots and the MF pads for me prove to be when I compared with my flex to produce faster results with a better finish. __________________

November 6th, 2011, 07:23 PM	#7
VaderGT Enthusiast 2010 GT Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 715 iTrader: 1 reviews	Plus it is a good bit more powerful then the PC..comparing it to my old PC it takes much more force to make it bog down..my old PC would bog down constantly and I wanted to throw it threw a wall sometimes cause of that..I dont have that issue with the griots. nice thing about the Griots..its a lifetime warranty..no matter how it brakes they will replace it no question asked. __________________

November 7th, 2011, 10:30 AM	#9
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	He didn't man Corey bought it:-) I suggest the op invest in the 3401 if he has the funds for it. Phil has some great kits for it check it out on detailer domain and you get a discount for being a member here just use the discount code its either one of theses: Mustang or Mustangs __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 MGW, MAC Offroad X, Flowmaster Original 40's, Maganaflow 3.5" Tips, Anthracite 18x9's & 18x10's FR 500's wrapped with Nitto 555's, Eibach Pro Kit, Last edited by dannyboy281; November 7th, 2011 at 01:52 PM.

November 7th, 2011, 01:18 PM	#10
DetailersDomain Authorized Vendor Join Date: Feb 2011 Posts: 274 iTrader: 0 reviews	either machine will do the job. I can tell you that the PC has made a bit of a comeback with the Meg's DA Microfiber System. Porter Cable Kit with Meg's DA Microfiber System. __________________ Phil@DetailersDomain.com Detailer's Domain Like us on Facebook Discount code 10% off: MUSTANG

November 6th, 2011, 04:50 PM	#5
Gebor Regular 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Cleveland Posts: 258 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is this the one you wanted me to look at?

November 7th, 2011, 09:25 PM	#12
sikedsyko \/ Hidden Bewbs \/ 01 Cobra Vert Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 5,732 iTrader: 0 reviews	Personally I'd get this kit. It's a little bit more money, but is a much more diverse kit than the MF system. https://detailersdomain.com/Porter-C...dle_p_257.html __________________ MM Cobra Club #66

November 8th, 2011, 01:03 AM	#13
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would get this kit or the one Phil posted up. http://www.detailersdomain.com/Flex-...dle_p_270.html __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 MGW, MAC Offroad X, Flowmaster Original 40's, Maganaflow 3.5" Tips, Anthracite 18x9's & 18x10's FR 500's wrapped with Nitto 555's, Eibach Pro Kit,

November 8th, 2011, 03:24 PM	#14
sikedsyko \/ Hidden Bewbs \/ 01 Cobra Vert Join Date: May 2007 Location: Houston Posts: 5,732 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is the flex really worth an extra $200 though? I just don't see it adding that much value... __________________ MM Cobra Club #66

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