WTF Are These Specs?

ChrisJ · December 1st, 2011, 01:31 PM

Please dont mind the filth as my car hasn't been washed in a few weeks due to being too busy...Its so damn dirty right now...

I first noticed these specs on the passenger side c pillar...I tried to clay bar them but nothing...They are smooth but have now gradually moved down to the tail light area and over a good bit of the quarter panel now...There has been no compounding or polishing on the car in the past few months since they are started to appear...

And its just in that one spot...Just the top of the rear quarter up to the c pillar...It saddens me as it looks to me like clear coat failure or the spot of the car...The car has NEVER been in an accident and has never had any repair work done to it...

After I saw these spots I got kinda down in the dumps on cleaning the car so I have kinda let it go lately as its taken a back seat to alot more important things in my life...

Shelbydog! · December 1st, 2011, 01:33 PM

clearcoat failure?

ChrisJ · December 1st, 2011, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by Shelbydog!

clearcoat failure?

I have thought about that but have yet to see anyone with the same issue...Typically clearcoat failure is cracks and such and look like spider webs...These are just dots...On a 2008 Acura with 50K miles that has been garage kept all its life up to 3 months ago...

MothersPolish · December 1st, 2011, 02:49 PM

A couple more photos might be helpful... the spots are obvious, but it looks like there's also cloudiness.

Could be clearcoat failure, but of a different kind other than oxidation. For example, if you've been polishing excessively, it could be getting thin and breaking through.

It could be also something that ate into the finish in spots, like road salts can do on wheels and other panels. This type of damage could also be agricultural sprays or some accidental exposure.

Inspect with a magnifying glass or jeweler's loupe to get a better look, and try polishing in a small area to see if you can make some progress -- if you have plenty of clearcoat, it might come out.

ChrisJ · December 1st, 2011, 03:28 PM

Nope no heavy polishing...It has seen 1 pass with the MF Microfiber setup on a DA...Going to clean it off with P40 and get better pictures...Off to the dealer tomorrow

ChrisJ · December 1st, 2011, 04:56 PM

no texture at all they are smooth like the rest of the paint...

zinc02GT · December 1st, 2011, 07:44 PM

Try 3M General Purpose adhesive remover with a microfiber first.

If that doesn't remove it, you either have water etching or worse. Honestly, I think a wool pad a rotary would clean it right up.

dannyboy281 · December 1st, 2011, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by zinc02GT

Try 3M General Purpose adhesive remover with a microfiber first.

If that doesn't remove it, you either have water etching or worse. Honestly, I think a wool pad a rotary would clean it right up.

This^

Or you can try a medium grade clay its hard to say exactly what they are but it looks like over spray to me. You will get some marring with a medium grade clay but nothing that a light polishing after cant clear up.

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or

http://www.detailersdomain.com/Uber-...Bar_p_406.html

Imran · December 1st, 2011, 09:45 PM

That might be clear coat failure. I have the same shit going up and down my passenger side C pillar, only 1000 times worse than in that pic. If I am right, it will only get worse and worse.

Zatrekaz · December 1st, 2011, 09:50 PM

Clay it, Compound it, ect... if nothing works take it to a body shop and see what they think it is.

ChrisJ · December 2nd, 2011, 01:57 PM

Well I went to local Acura dealership today and it seems you are correct...Seems that Crown Acura in Richmond Virginia reprayed the c pillar and quarter and didnt tell anyone...So now I am going to have to go after them to get it fixed as the local dealership told me $1800 - $3k to fix the issue...

brokenweasel · December 2nd, 2011, 02:52 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisJ

Well I went to local Acura dealership today and it seems you are correct...Seems that Crown Acura in Richmond Virginia reprayed the c pillar and quarter and didnt tell anyone...So now I am going to have to go after them to get it fixed as the local dealership told me $1800 - $3k to fix the issue...

Ouch! So the car had been in an accident at one point? What about a Carfax buyback? (assuming you bought the car from a dealer who sold it like that)

dannyboy281 · December 2nd, 2011, 07:59 PM

Well that suck Chris I hope it all get squared away and you get the job dont professionally. Thing that sucks is its going to need an entire decontamination and correction after. I still have to correct the work done by the bodyshop that painted my ride after it was in the accident I have to go as far as to wetsand it to hopefully get it back to how it was

ChrisJ · December 5th, 2011, 11:59 AM

Fighting with the dealership...Im gonna have to do alot of kicking and screaming...

The carfax is clean as a whistle...The acura history is clean as a whistle...So Im thinking it was a backroom deal with acura...

MothersPolish · December 5th, 2011, 12:17 PM

Finish repair can be done at the port, assuming it's an import, or even at a distribution depot somewhere if it's not; and if it's under $500 or some such magic number, they don't have to report it to you so it wouldn't be on any paperwork you see, but it might be in some paperwork somewhere.

December 1st, 2011, 01:31 PM	#1
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	WTF Are These Specs? Please dont mind the filth as my car hasn't been washed in a few weeks due to being too busy...Its so damn dirty right now... I first noticed these specs on the passenger side c pillar...I tried to clay bar them but nothing...They are smooth but have now gradually moved down to the tail light area and over a good bit of the quarter panel now...There has been no compounding or polishing on the car in the past few months since they are started to appear... And its just in that one spot...Just the top of the rear quarter up to the c pillar...It saddens me as it looks to me like clear coat failure or the spot of the car...The car has NEVER been in an accident and has never had any repair work done to it... After I saw these spots I got kinda down in the dumps on cleaning the car so I have kinda let it go lately as its taken a back seat to alot more important things in my life... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

December 1st, 2011, 01:33 PM	#2
Shelbydog! MM sticker peddler slowmatic Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: OK Posts: 1,784 iTrader: 4 reviews	clearcoat failure? __________________ Visit this thread, more stickers possible coming soon! http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/clubhouse/263411-gauging-interest-more-new-mm-sticker.html

December 1st, 2011, 02:49 PM	#4
MothersPolish Regular Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 221 iTrader: 0 reviews	A couple more photos might be helpful... the spots are obvious, but it looks like there's also cloudiness. Could be clearcoat failure, but of a different kind other than oxidation. For example, if you've been polishing excessively, it could be getting thin and breaking through. It could be also something that ate into the finish in spots, like road salts can do on wheels and other panels. This type of damage could also be agricultural sprays or some accidental exposure. Inspect with a magnifying glass or jeweler's loupe to get a better look, and try polishing in a small area to see if you can make some progress -- if you have plenty of clearcoat, it might come out. __________________ jimd@mothers Please email me rather than PM me if you have any product questions you don't want to post in the forum -- thanks! Like us on Facebook at www.mothersfacebook.com

December 1st, 2011, 03:28 PM	#5
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	Nope no heavy polishing...It has seen 1 pass with the MF Microfiber setup on a DA...Going to clean it off with P40 and get better pictures...Off to the dealer tomorrow __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

December 1st, 2011, 04:56 PM	#6
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	no texture at all they are smooth like the rest of the paint... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

December 1st, 2011, 07:44 PM	#7
zinc02GT HUGE RED HEADED DUDE W/FIVE-OH 2011 Mustang GT 12.1 @ 116 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 5,847 iTrader: 1 reviews	Try 3M General Purpose adhesive remover with a microfiber first. If that doesn't remove it, you either have water etching or worse. Honestly, I think a wool pad a rotary would clean it right up. __________________ Mods in garage. Built suspension and gears since posted times.

December 1st, 2011, 09:45 PM	#9
Imran :) 01 Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 10,795 iTrader: 1 reviews	That might be clear coat failure. I have the same shit going up and down my passenger side C pillar, only 1000 times worse than in that pic. If I am right, it will only get worse and worse. __________________

December 1st, 2011, 09:50 PM	#10
Zatrekaz Wax on, Wax off 2003 Mustang V6 16.8@83.3 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 6,954 iTrader: 15 reviews	Clay it, Compound it, ect... if nothing works take it to a body shop and see what they think it is. __________________ Black Bullitt Rims FT/FS Looking to Sell or Trade for Silver FR500s Looking to buy a lot of 99-04 Interior Pieces If you have any for sale, PM me

December 2nd, 2011, 01:57 PM	#11
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	Well I went to local Acura dealership today and it seems you are correct...Seems that Crown Acura in Richmond Virginia reprayed the c pillar and quarter and didnt tell anyone...So now I am going to have to go after them to get it fixed as the local dealership told me $1800 - $3k to fix the issue... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

December 2nd, 2011, 07:59 PM	#13
dannyboy281 MM Fanatic 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 5,000 miles on the ODO Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: El Paso, Tx Posts: 4,912 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well that suck Chris I hope it all get squared away and you get the job dont professionally. Thing that sucks is its going to need an entire decontamination and correction after. I still have to correct the work done by the bodyshop that painted my ride after it was in the accident I have to go as far as to wetsand it to hopefully get it back to how it was __________________ 2003 Azure Blue Mach 1 MGW, MAC Offroad X, Flowmaster Original 40's, Maganaflow 3.5" Tips, Anthracite 18x9's & 18x10's FR 500's wrapped with Nitto 555's, Eibach Pro Kit,

December 5th, 2011, 11:59 AM	#14
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	Fighting with the dealership...Im gonna have to do alot of kicking and screaming... The carfax is clean as a whistle...The acura history is clean as a whistle...So Im thinking it was a backroom deal with acura... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

December 5th, 2011, 12:17 PM	#15
MothersPolish Regular Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 221 iTrader: 0 reviews	Finish repair can be done at the port, assuming it's an import, or even at a distribution depot somewhere if it's not; and if it's under $500 or some such magic number, they don't have to report it to you so it wouldn't be on any paperwork you see, but it might be in some paperwork somewhere. __________________ jimd@mothers Please email me rather than PM me if you have any product questions you don't want to post in the forum -- thanks! Like us on Facebook at www.mothersfacebook.com

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