? for those who are supercharged

fast eddie03 · July 21st, 2009, 12:26 PM

I have a 2003 mustang gt, it is lightly modified and I am ready to order my blower but I am very confused and wanting your guys opinion... I currently have 4.10 gears, catless x pipe, magnaflow catback, cai, and underdrive pullies. I cant decide if I want to go with the kenne bell 2.1 intercooled kit or the vortec kit.... With my supporting mods after I am done I want to be over 400 horse, but dont want to get inside the motor until it blows up lol... I have read alot of the threads on this subject already and understand that it all depends on what im looking for. I wont be taking it to the track all the time, but when I do I want to hold my own. I have seen videos of kb gt's and honestly there not that impressive looking to me but they sound awesome. This is my daily driver and I want it to be as reliable as possible, and I really didnt want to have to get it dyno tuned unless I have to...

Anyone with a kb 2.1 or a vortec, procharger kit if you would tell me your opinion about your setup. Thanks everyone for you time.

03_StangGuy · July 21st, 2009, 12:42 PM

First off is you put a blower on you should get a dyno tune, you can run a bolt on kit and go with the tune they give you but it wont be perfect and youll likely not be at the full potential of the setup.

4.10s are a bit much for any blower but even more so with a PD style, with all the low end torque your gonna have no traction.

I have a Novi 2000 at 14psi and love it! Very streetable, and when I wanna get on it and let it rev it screams!

Not sure where your located but there was a big discussion on another forum about what the stock block can hold. What it came down to was gettin over 400 is pushin it but it you live at higher elevation you actual power youll be makin will be less than the numbers you get on the dyno, thats why some guys run 450+ with no issues.

fast eddie03 · July 21st, 2009, 05:09 PM

thanks for the info, is your set up with stock internals and what supporting mods do you have?

03_StangGuy · July 21st, 2009, 05:22 PM

no I blow my motor with 435, like 100 feet above sea level so the correction factor is very low. I have a livernois 5L stroker now. I have a mac prochamber and cat back, AMF power pipe, Accufab 75mm t/b and plenum, 60 lb injectors, intercooler

~C~ · July 27th, 2009, 11:29 AM

You can get it street tuned also. I wouldnt do anything less than a dyno or street tune.

mustanginky · July 27th, 2009, 06:46 PM

i have a procharger, exhaust, 4.10's gears, etc..7 lbs making 368 hp and 406 rwtq. if you're going with a KB you'll want to get rid of the gears and get some 3.73's or something like that. i have fun in my car, but more boost would be bad with the 4.10's.

330CubeGt · August 11th, 2009, 03:25 AM

Originally Posted by mustanginky

i have a procharger, exhaust, 4.10's gears, etc..7 lbs making 368 hp and 406 rwtq. if you're going with a KB you'll want to get rid of the gears and get some 3.73's or something like that. i have fun in my car, but more boost would be bad with the 4.10's.

<---Thinks about selling his 4.10s

Trick Tuners · August 11th, 2009, 02:05 PM

KBs are fun street blower, especially if you like blowing the tires off! Centris are bad ass too. I'd keep the gears for the centri, but get something like a 3.73, or even the stock 3.27 are fine for the KB with its instant TQ.

jamilla · September 3rd, 2009, 01:36 AM

I like my vortech and they are built for completely stock cars

bottlefedbullitt01 · September 3rd, 2009, 10:36 AM

^they pretty much sumed it all up.

cyberdude47 · January 10th, 2010, 09:15 PM

I just did a KB

stonewrk · February 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM

i have a vortech sq on a 02 mustang gt pushing 360 and i have 3.55 gears

S IHI II IB IB Y · February 13th, 2010, 03:49 PM

3.55 gears with 6 speed and P1SC at about 9psi. It's perfect for me i love it. Yea like previously stated if your going with a twinscrew ditch the 4.10's otherwise your going nowhere fast. If you really enjoy supercharger whine the twinscrew design generally has a bit more whine but you can also get more whine with a smaller pulley

BOOSTED96 · February 19th, 2010, 07:15 PM

I would just go ahead and build the motor at the same time..yes its more money but better than having to take the blower off again when ready to build besides you will like the new found power if you just bolt up the supercharger now but once a month or so goes by you will want more and wont be able to because of stock internals

February 24th, 2010, 07:07 PM

i got a vortech, but its not real loud like i want it to be, i want people know its not stock..anybody agree that the vortech is quite?....and with the procharger, is it pretty loud?

tboz65 · March 30th, 2010, 02:48 PM

Originally Posted by yeah_itsa_v6

i got a vortech, but its not real loud like i want it to be, i want people know its not stock..anybody agree that the vortech is quite?....and with the procharger, is it pretty loud?

They aren't quiet.... and this is a P1... they only get louder

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schardbody · April 2nd, 2010, 11:48 PM

PD whine gets old real quick. nothing beats the whine of a vortech V1 at idle.

Trick Tuners · April 3rd, 2010, 11:58 AM

Originally Posted by schardbody

PD whine gets old real quick. nothing beats the whine of a vortech V1 at idle.

Huh? You'd rather have it make all kinds of noise at idle than at wot? And that doesn't "get old quick". Biased a bit?

weems · April 3rd, 2010, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by Trick Tuners

Huh? You'd rather have it make all kinds of noise at idle than at wot? And that doesn't "get old quick". Biased a bit?

lol no doubt, and I have had both and much prefer the PD.

schardbody · April 3rd, 2010, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Trick Tuners

Huh? You'd rather have it make all kinds of noise at idle than at wot? And that doesn't "get old quick". Biased a bit?

Originally Posted by weems

lol no doubt, and I have had both and much prefer the PD.

actually, i'm not running either, have had both though, and yes the WOT whine was annoying after a week. and who said i like the idle whine either, i prefer the SQ, but if i had to pick idle vs WOT i'd take the idle everytime.

of coarse its personal preference though.

July 21st, 2009, 12:26 PM	#1
fast eddie03 Newbie 2003 MUSTANG GT UNKNOWN Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sedalia Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 reviews	? for those who are supercharged I have a 2003 mustang gt, it is lightly modified and I am ready to order my blower but I am very confused and wanting your guys opinion... I currently have 4.10 gears, catless x pipe, magnaflow catback, cai, and underdrive pullies. I cant decide if I want to go with the kenne bell 2.1 intercooled kit or the vortec kit.... With my supporting mods after I am done I want to be over 400 horse, but dont want to get inside the motor until it blows up lol... I have read alot of the threads on this subject already and understand that it all depends on what im looking for. I wont be taking it to the track all the time, but when I do I want to hold my own. I have seen videos of kb gt's and honestly there not that impressive looking to me but they sound awesome. This is my daily driver and I want it to be as reliable as possible, and I really didnt want to have to get it dyno tuned unless I have to... Anyone with a kb 2.1 or a vortec, procharger kit if you would tell me your opinion about your setup. Thanks everyone for you time.

July 21st, 2009, 12:42 PM	#2
03_StangGuy I Post Entirely Way Too Much Blown 03 GT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 6,238 iTrader: 0 reviews	First off is you put a blower on you should get a dyno tune, you can run a bolt on kit and go with the tune they give you but it wont be perfect and youll likely not be at the full potential of the setup. 4.10s are a bit much for any blower but even more so with a PD style, with all the low end torque your gonna have no traction. I have a Novi 2000 at 14psi and love it! Very streetable, and when I wanna get on it and let it rev it screams! Not sure where your located but there was a big discussion on another forum about what the stock block can hold. What it came down to was gettin over 400 is pushin it but it you live at higher elevation you actual power youll be makin will be less than the numbers you get on the dyno, thats why some guys run 450+ with no issues. __________________

July 21st, 2009, 05:22 PM	#4
03_StangGuy I Post Entirely Way Too Much Blown 03 GT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Long Island NY Posts: 6,238 iTrader: 0 reviews	no I blow my motor with 435, like 100 feet above sea level so the correction factor is very low. I have a livernois 5L stroker now. I have a mac prochamber and cat back, AMF power pipe, Accufab 75mm t/b and plenum, 60 lb injectors, intercooler __________________

July 27th, 2009, 11:29 AM	#5
~C~ ~C~, The Other White Meat! Y2K YellowJacket GT ~TBD~ Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: West side B-More Posts: 1,710 iTrader: 2 reviews	You can get it street tuned also. I wouldnt do anything less than a dyno or street tune. __________________ BLOWN Bumblebeast! 370 rwhp / 381 ft lbs ~Tuned by JJ at WMS "Like the blind man says......We shall see...."

July 27th, 2009, 06:46 PM	#6
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 3,984 iTrader: 2 reviews	i have a procharger, exhaust, 4.10's gears, etc..7 lbs making 368 hp and 406 rwtq. if you're going with a KB you'll want to get rid of the gears and get some 3.73's or something like that. i have fun in my car, but more boost would be bad with the 4.10's. __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

July 21st, 2009, 05:09 PM	#3
fast eddie03 Newbie 2003 MUSTANG GT UNKNOWN Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sedalia Posts: 22 iTrader: 0 reviews	thanks for the info, is your set up with stock internals and what supporting mods do you have?

August 11th, 2009, 02:05 PM	#8
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,471 iTrader: 3 reviews	KBs are fun street blower, especially if you like blowing the tires off! Centris are bad ass too. I'd keep the gears for the centri, but get something like a 3.73, or even the stock 3.27 are fine for the KB with its instant TQ. __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

September 3rd, 2009, 01:36 AM	#9
jamilla Regular 89' LX Conv. 12.8@113 Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 236 iTrader: 0 reviews	I like my vortech and they are built for completely stock cars

September 3rd, 2009, 10:36 AM	#10
bottlefedbullitt01 Enthusiast 2001 bullitt #835 not fast enough Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: south ga Posts: 562 iTrader: 4 reviews	^they pretty much sumed it all up. __________________ Bullitt #835 4:10s, bassani O/R X, bassani mufflers, Bassani mid-headers, forged/built 2v, trickflow 44 heads, BIG blower cam, v1 vortech intercooled 11# boost 532rwhp/468tq

January 10th, 2010, 09:15 PM	#11
cyberdude47 Regular Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 162 iTrader: 1 reviews	I just did a KB __________________ Cervini Stalker kit, Foose 18" Nitrous 265/295 Manley rods & pistons, Kellogg crank, ATI 10%OD, Fidenza flywheel, Spec3 clutch. Kenne Bell 2.2L,8rib conversion. Headers, Xpipe, Magnaflows JLT, SCT Eibach, H&R, Tokico, Maximum motorsports

February 7th, 2010, 04:52 PM	#12
stonewrk Newbie Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 5 iTrader: 0 reviews	i have a vortech sq on a 02 mustang gt pushing 360 and i have 3.55 gears

February 13th, 2010, 03:49 PM	#13
S IHI II IB IB Y Regular 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Brooklyn Center, MN Posts: 93 iTrader: 0 reviews	3.55 gears with 6 speed and P1SC at about 9psi. It's perfect for me i love it. Yea like previously stated if your going with a twinscrew ditch the 4.10's otherwise your going nowhere fast. If you really enjoy supercharger whine the twinscrew design generally has a bit more whine but you can also get more whine with a smaller pulley __________________ P1SC Tremec T56 6-Speed 3.55 Gears Aluminum Shaft Aluminum Flywheel Custom Tuned SCT Superchip Check Garage For Full Mod List

February 19th, 2010, 07:15 PM	#14
BOOSTED96 Regular 1996 STEEDA Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Va Beach, Va Posts: 212 iTrader: 0 reviews	I would just go ahead and build the motor at the same time..yes its more money but better than having to take the blower off again when ready to build besides you will like the new found power if you just bolt up the supercharger now but once a month or so goes by you will want more and wont be able to because of stock internals __________________ Highly Intelligent Modular Young Gun! Get off my D1 SON!!

February 24th, 2010, 07:07 PM	#15
yeah_itsa_v6 Guest Posts: n/a	i got a vortech, but its not real loud like i want it to be, i want people know its not stock..anybody agree that the vortech is quite?....and with the procharger, is it pretty loud?

April 2nd, 2010, 11:48 PM	#17
schardbody Newbie 96 gt Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: charleston SC Posts: 11 iTrader: 0 reviews	PD whine gets old real quick. nothing beats the whine of a vortech V1 at idle.

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