[8A_Honda]

Once again I'm contemplating on going with my T-67 turbo or a Kenne Bell s/c for my 88 5.0 Mustang. Here's my thoughts and why the personal debate.

S/C- Easier to work on car when installed without having a bunch of stuff in the way. Wouldn't get hot like a turbo would therefore producing a lot of underhood heat. Instant torque, it's boosted, and changing the amount a boost just requires changing a pulley. No need for an intercooler which could also cause overheating issues from blocking airflow to the radiator. It's a kit so no fabricating, it only cost $3600, I can keep the same exhaust I have, no need for spending $500 or so to upgrade intake manifolds cause it'll sit on top of the motor in the place of it. Only bad part is that it just won't make the kinda power a turbo would. The Kenne Bell is very straight forward as their website has a VERY large faq that list many questions and answers, tells you what parts go well with it, and even the order in which to upgrade.

T-67 turbo- I already have the turbo so I'd save some money....maybe. Everything would have to either be fabricated or I'd have to buy pipes and stuff that'd be pretty pricey. If it's fabricated, someone would have to do it for me since I don't have the equipment, therefore could get kinda pricey. Would make more power overall. Would need an intercooler, which I'd have to buy and possibly cause overheating issues. I'd be somewhat afraid of ever having spike issues or boost control issues. Changing boost on a turbo would require either getting an electronic controller and spending $300 or more or getting a manual controller and adjust, drive, check, stop, adjust, drive some more, check again, etc.

If I sold my turbo, I'd probably go $800 for the manifold and turbo together which would help somewhat with the cost. But dunno. Still debating but watching this video really makes me want a Kenne Bell and this car sounds freakin AWESOME!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lQX3cOAbes

[D-Brow]

you're stuck in a tight spot there, lol. Personally, having the turbo already, i'd buy the rest of the stuff and run the turbo if you're power crazy. If you want good power to beat some good cars but nothing extra, and keep it simple, then supercharger. Is your car a daily driver?

[97Cobra]

well the S/C will produce a lot of heat aswell. and intercoolers actually help cool the S/C air before it enters your engine. also to take in effect is that Turbos produce more hp with the same boost wich makes it easier on the engine. and also do you want low end or high end power? k/b would get you all the low end ya want ant the turbo will get ya the top end....hope this helps! lol either way its still gonna be a fun car!!! good luck!

[8A_Honda]

Kenne Bells don't produce as much heat as a turbo or a centri s/c would though. I know a turbo will produce more horsepower but kinda wondering how much power is possible out of a KB if the motor gets built and running a lot of boost with some high octane. I'm not seeing a lot of people on here with KB's so it's kinda hard to know.

I'm well aware of what turbo's are capable of at the track. I've seen a few. And there's a few guys around town here that have them. Just don't see ANY Mustangs around here with KB's and can't find many videos on the net either.

If slapping on a KB will make it easier to work on, I can get good et's at the track, and they sound awesome, I may sell the turbo and get one. The exhaust from turbo's get really hot and makes the temps under the hood pretty high. And I'm sure that when the air enters a turbo where the exhaust on the other side of it is reaching temps of 1300-1600 degrees, that'd be reason enough to need an intercooler.

If anyone has any links for KB's, please post. Video's, vendors, someone that has one that can give feedback. Especially anyone who's had a turbo and a KB that can give feedback on both. I just went to the track and ran a 9.1 in the 1/8th with a 1.9 60ft on a stock motor so wondering how much slapping one on would improve my times. Thanks.

[97Cobra]

K/Bs are awesome IMO but some ppl dont like em just because you have to use a air to water inter cooler..you dont have to get any inter cooler but it would be wise to opt for one. also ppl dont like k/b s because the make low end power. n for me thats what i like. you get in less trouble....i like to get up to speed reallly quick but then i dont speed over the posted limit....give or take a few so Id say go with K/B....a custom turbo set up somtimes can look like someone took a crap in your engine bay (ie Camaro owners ). the K/Bs look nice sittin in there.

[TurboLX]

go with the T67 turbo, come on ove to TurboMustangs.com for any turbo info, find my user TurboStang140

[TurboLX]

and you can make a manifold by using your stock shortys

[8A_Honda]

I'm already on that forum Just don't really post a lot cause there's not a lot that I don't already know, or need to know....at the moment at least. If I go with the turbo and time comes to install it, I'm sure I'd need to know the lil tid bits to getting it installed though.

And yeah, I definately don't want it lookin like crap under the hood....fast or not. Kinda hard to weigh my options very well though when there's not a lot of info out there for stangs for the Kenne Bell, such as what times people are making at the track. That's a biggie right there.

[itschristorres8]

KB cobra videos are EVERYwhere, there badass
the new 2.9KB makes soem serious power

i'd go with a turbo

[8A_Honda]

Sorry, I meant for a Fox body. Those vids are rare and vids of the KB with a 4.6 are everywhere but the motor is a different platform.

[8A_Honda]

I'm still in the debate. A lot of the money I was planning on getting from the taxes I just filed is getting taken out for other crap I won't even get into...so now the spending money I thought I was gonna have is well, not there now.

Yesterday I was talking to a guy and he asked why I didn't just go and swap over to a carb and go to a blowthru setup. I hadn't previously thought of the money savings I'd have if that's actually the case so now I'm researching that as well. Just that I know absolutely nothing about carbs right now. Although I'm researching them and thus far I've seen some carbs that are built for blowthru applications running for around $1k. So if that's how much they cost, I dunno where the money savings come into play. Decisions decisions.

Wondering what all is needed to swap over from my EFI to a Carb though just incase.

[TurboLX]

go with the turbo

[TurboLX]

i dont know much about blow thru carbs but ill read up on that for ya

[8A_Honda]

Yeah, I've been reading for about the past 4 or 5 hours....and still reading at the moment. Lol. Just dunno about things needed such as, 1. things needed to do to swap over from efi to carb, 2.) safety factors to not screw up the motor, 3.) good carbs for blow-thru.

Guess I'd need to learn about a carb being that I've never really messed with one. Wouldn't know how to change a jet, mess with the air/fuel, idle, etc. etc. I know nothing about them....at the moment.

[TurboLX]

yea ive never really messed with carbs ither

[banned]

Originally Posted by 8A_Honda Kenne Bells don't produce as much heat as a turbo or a centri s/c would though. I know a turbo will produce more horsepower but kinda wondering how much power is possible out of a KB if the motor gets built and running a lot of boost with some high octane. I'm not seeing a lot of people on here with KB's so it's kinda hard to know. I'm well aware of what turbo's are capable of at the track. I've seen a few. And there's a few guys around town here that have them. Just don't see ANY Mustangs around here with KB's and can't find many videos on the net either. If slapping on a KB will make it easier to work on, I can get good et's at the track, and they sound awesome, I may sell the turbo and get one. The exhaust from turbo's get really hot and makes the temps under the hood pretty high. And I'm sure that when the air enters a turbo where the exhaust on the other side of it is reaching temps of 1300-1600 degrees, that'd be reason enough to need an intercooler. If anyone has any links for KB's, please post. Video's, vendors, someone that has one that can give feedback. Especially anyone who's had a turbo and a KB that can give feedback on both. I just went to the track and ran a 9.1 in the 1/8th with a 1.9 60ft on a stock motor so wondering how much slapping one on would improve my times. Thanks.

factually incorrect on the heat production aspect, the KB is going to be harder to hook up with, and the turbo will rule it up top. KB's are sweet but its not about who has the highest dyno numbers, and 99% of the time centris make the fastest times. but to answer your question just a straight kb bolt on would probly drop you 1/8 1 second