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which one turbo or supercharger
i have a 94 cobra bone stock was wondering what the best one would be.also does anybody know any good mustang shops in san antoinio.reason i'm asking one of my friend has an srt-4 with alot of boost and my other friend has a wrx-sti same thing.i don't want to have to get an evo just to keep up
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the turbo will be better hands down. it will cost more $ though.
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supercharger=MORE money LESS power EASIER to install
Turbo=full kit for the price of a supercharger Harder to install MORE power
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A bolt on turbo kit isnt that hard to install. it might take longer but it isnt to hard...just a lot of moving and removing...most turbo kits come bolt on except the 1/2-3/4 tap in the oil pan
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wait wait he said a 5.0 guys....you can get your downpipe to go down on the rear firewall right behind the engine unlike the 4.6 getting a new tubular kmember...turbo that thing man..it wont cost that much...
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If you are wanting to play with EVO's and STI's... you can beat either with any kind of power adder, turbo kits are cheaper but harder to install...
If you go turbo, I would suggest Hellion but there are also other good ones out there. If you go supercharger, it is VERY hard to beat the Whipple HO kit! |
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Hellion does make nice setups, but i dont know, HP performance has got a nice setup and gains from there kit
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1) What kind of Evo? Stock, modded, what?? I had one and I gotta tell ya bro, it took alot ta knock me off. Just wonderin'... 2) Whipple... I got a buddy w/ an S197 that's Whippled He was at the track on Wednesday. I was not impressed. Granted, he's a crap ass driver, but still not that amazing. He had his ass handed to him by a P-1 Procharged SN-95. Again, just wonderin'...
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yeah well regency has an 05 mustang and going turbo so yeah he wouldnt have a problem with an evo..
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procharger!!!
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i keep watching races with single turbo mustangs and either kenne bell mustang gts and they have about the same stuff done and everytime the turbo beats the supercharged mustang...im not bashing on superchargers cuz if i cant gewt around to getting turboed on mine i will be forging mine and going over 600+hp on supercharged..
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Nobody has really said anything that would be helpful....especially the statement that superchargers are more expensive than turbo's...
First you have to decide how much money you are willing to spend. If you are looking to go the cheap route, I would suggest just getting a supercharger. I am not sure what the stock compression ratio is for your engine, but you will need to find that out first in order to determine how much boost you can run. Second, you must realize the stock 5.0's aren't able to handle too much power. You wouldn't want to go much over 500HP. You could do it, but you risk cracking the block. With that being said, if you are just going to keep the current engine, buy a vortech supercharger and you will have no problem beating those 4 bangers.....OH yeah you are going to have to upgrade some things like your heads and fuel system in order to support the more power |
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then let him make his own desicion, read this then
Let's start with the similarities. Both turbochargers and superchargers are called forced induction systems. They compress the air flowing into the engine. The advantage of compressing the air is that it lets the engine stuff more air into a cylinder. More air means that more fuel can be stuffed in, too, so you get more power from each explosion in each cylinder. A turbo/supercharged engine produces more power overall than the same engine without the charging. The typical boost provided by either a turbocharger or a supercharger is 6 to 8 pounds per square inch (psi). Since normal atmospheric pressure is 14.7 psi at sea level, you can see that you are getting about 50-percent more air into the engine. Therefore, you would expect to get 50-percent more power. It's not perfectly efficient, though, so you might get a 30-percent to 40-percent improvement instead. The key difference between a turbocharger and a supercharger is its power supply. Something has to supply the power to run the air compressor. In a supercharger, there is a belt that connects directly to the engine. It gets its power the same way that the water pump or alternator does. A turbocharger, on the other hand, gets its power from the exhaust stream. The exhaust runs through a turbine, which in turn spins the compressor. There are tradeoffs in both systems. In theory, a turbocharger is more efficient because it is using the "wasted" energy in the exhaust stream for its power source. On the other hand, a turbocharger causes some amount of back pressure in the exhaust system and tends to provide less boost until the engine is running at higher RPMs. Superchargers are easier to install but tend to be more expensive.
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turbo FTW!!!
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supercharged
well i did my research and wanted to go turbo but i got a great deal on a used blower,should be a nice setup with 3.55's and a full exhaust
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supercharger all the way man.
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Its simple...It's your decision and it's based on what you want and what your budget can manage.
Niether are neccisarily more expensive than the other unless you have a modular. Ive seen turbo kits for the 302 that are cheaper than some supercharger kits out there. Whatever you do, dont go with HP Performance or Pro Turbo Kits. You'll wait decades for those parts. If you want a clean turbo setup go with Ponydown or B&G Customs. Turbo might cost a little more then sc, but not by so much that it matters. If you prefer superchargers then they sky is the limit. There are so many selections and most sc companies are reliable and deliver quickly. If you're looking for top end power and you wallet is on the thin side get a centrifugal supercharger. You'll lack bottom end torque tho. If you need that torque go with a twin-screw like kenne bell. I dont know if there are any roots-type applications for the 302 other than race blowers. You should never ask people for their opinion on what YOU should do to YOUR car. YOU should do what YOU feel is best because in the end its still YOUR car. Do what makes you happy, not what others THINK you should do. |
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MPH has mongoose kits both in sc and turbo. Only thing is their twin turbo kit is something they have to install and tune so it is pricy at almost 9k
http://modularpowerhouse.com/index.p...c03227dbe2b47c
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