[TheBusher]

Originally Posted by mustangmanic So 02Stang... heres my suggestion to the guy! Get longtubes, its well worth it. Even in 1st gear you'll benefit (mildly). I swear you'll regret shorties man. Yes shorties will benefit TQ better than LT's will but... lets say theres 2 stock auto (to elimanate a driver mod) gt's, but one has shorties and the other has LT's... If they race a 1/4 mile the LT gt will always win... Its top end power vs top end tq.... now we all know that the gt's stop producing top tq much much earlier than they stop producing top hp... and when going fast, your rpm's are gonna be up there a lot. so why not go with LT's now dont bash me on my opinion please . Remember its only my opinion...

That statement is true of all cars, not just our mustangs...

[mustangmanic]

+1 yeah, my bad.

[Blk01ponyGT]

this threads gettin kinda crazy...hah...i respect all your opinions but ive been talking to some people around my area that i know that work at mustang shops and they say that it only really makes a huge difference when your boosted or running alot of power....im going to get shorties simply because i scrape my stock exhaust on every speedbump around here and theres like 4 huge ones going into school every day which sucks....2 lane traffic...cant go over at an angle and i dont want to destroy my headers..thanks for the input tho guys

[mustangmanic]

Sure thing man. Good luck with all the install

[02StangGToWNEr]

Originally Posted by neckbonekat Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr Originally Posted by neckbonekat Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr Originally Posted by mustangmanic LT's also sound a hell of a lot better though. If you want the deep extremely aggressive tone then LT's are really you're only choice. Sure you could get a deep tone with shorties, but LT's will always sound deeper and better IMO Thats amazing, considering I have heard both, and they sound about the same, other than different tones from different brands. LT's may be a little bit louder in higher Rpms, but not enough to give a shit about it imo, because it's not noticable enough. It's simple LT's for more Hp, and Shorties for more Tq, or just get Mids if you want a balance of both. You guys aren't going to be able to convince him of anything. Because that is the set up he chose it will always be the best set up ever. I don't have headers yet you fuckin dumbass. Get a life besides the internet dipshit. My other hobby is f*cking your mother Timmy!

Atleast someone pays attention to the bitch, because I don't.

[02StangGToWNEr]

Originally Posted by mustangmanic Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr Originally Posted by neckbonekat Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr Originally Posted by mustangmanic LT's also sound a hell of a lot better though. If you want the deep extremely aggressive tone then LT's are really you're only choice. Sure you could get a deep tone with shorties, but LT's will always sound deeper and better IMO Thats amazing, considering I have heard both, and they sound about the same, other than different tones from different brands. LT's may be a little bit louder in higher Rpms, but not enough to give a shit about it imo, because it's not noticable enough. It's simple LT's for more Hp, and Shorties for more Tq, or just get Mids if you want a balance of both. You guys aren't going to be able to convince him of anything. Because that is the set up he chose it will always be the best set up ever. I don't have headers yet you fuckin dumbass. Get a life besides the internet dipshit. Whats your problem broseph? We're trying to helping you out. If you dont like our suggestions find some other forum where ppl will will put up with ur bullshit. You should get a life besides insulting ppl trying to help you OVER THE INTERNET. This website is made to help ppl on solving problems, decisions, etc... and you're being an asshole to someone just trying to help. I'm only 18yrs old, but it seems that you run across men sometimes that are less mature than a selfish, IMMATURE, hotheaded teenager. Thats really sad...

Helping me out with what??? I have seen Dyno's bro, and the differences arn't that big of a deal between the 2. And besides LT's have more Con's than Pro's, for instance, Clearance issues, emissions possibly failing, the cost of the LT's is pricey, and then you gotta pay more money for a new shorty mid-pipe as well. So for the few extra Hp, it's not worth it imo.

[02StangGToWNEr]

Originally Posted by mustangmanic So 02Stang... heres my suggestion to the guy! Get longtubes, its well worth it. Even in 1st gear you'll benefit (mildly). I swear you'll regret shorties man. Yes shorties will benefit TQ better than LT's will but... lets say theres 2 stock auto (to elimanate a driver mod) gt's, but one has shorties and the other has LT's... If they race a 1/4 mile the LT gt will always win... Its top end power vs top end tq.... now we all know that the gt's stop producing top tq much much earlier than they stop producing top hp... and when going fast, your rpm's are gonna be up there a lot. so why not go with LT's now dont bash me on my opinion please . Remember its only my opinion...

Wheres your proof though that LT's would always win???? I seen Stangs with Shorty's beat Stangs with LT's and vice versa, so it's not always true.

[dcrow]

i have come to the realization that every one has there own opinion.
with that being said i have only one thing to say PEOPLE LIE BUT DYNO NUMBERS DO NOT. 8 HORSE POWER WITH LONG TUBES. WTF!!
what i mean by that is with long tubes which is what i have right now
is pretty much a waste of money when you consider how much they cost,
how much it cost in labor to install them or even how much time it takes to install them if you do it your self.
i am a prime example of listening to everyone else instead of doing the smart thing and asking someone who really knows and has had long tubes
or shorties, instead,here i am listening to morons that probably don't even have a mustang and are typing threads on the forum because they read an article in the mustang magazines and now they think they are a mustang guru.
so to make a long story short my headers are coming off because
1 i have eibach sportline's on my car and it sits too low.
2 i only gained 8 horse power
3 you have to remove them every time you have to drop your tranny[ that is not worth 8 horespower!!!!]

[neckbonekat]

Originally Posted by dcrow i have come to the realization that every one has there own opinion. with that being said i have only one thing to say PEOPLE LIE BUT DYNO NUMBERS DO NOT. 8 HORSE POWER WITH LONG TUBES. WTF!! what i mean by that is with long tubes which is what i have right now is pretty much a waste of money when you consider how much they cost, how much it cost in labor to install them or even how much time it takes to install them if you do it your self. i am a prime example of listening to everyone else instead of doing the smart thing and asking someone who really knows and has had long tubes or shorties, instead,here i am listening to morons that probably don't even have a mustang and are typing threads on the forum because they read an article in the mustang magazines and now they think they are a mustang guru. so to make a long story short my headers are coming off because 1 i have eibach sportline's on my car and it sits too low. 2 i only gained 8 horse power 3 you have to remove them every time you have to drop your tranny[ that is not worth 8 horespower!!!!]

All I have to say to that is you have no tune dumb ass! Only 8 horses Whaaaaaaaaaah!

[neckbonekat]

Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr Originally Posted by neckbonekat Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr Originally Posted by neckbonekat Originally Posted by 02StangGToWNEr Originally Posted by mustangmanic LT's also sound a hell of a lot better though. If you want the deep extremely aggressive tone then LT's are really you're only choice. Sure you could get a deep tone with shorties, but LT's will always sound deeper and better IMO Thats amazing, considering I have heard both, and they sound about the same, other than different tones from different brands. LT's may be a little bit louder in higher Rpms, but not enough to give a shit about it imo, because it's not noticable enough. It's simple LT's for more Hp, and Shorties for more Tq, or just get Mids if you want a balance of both. You guys aren't going to be able to convince him of anything. Because that is the set up he chose it will always be the best set up ever. I don't have headers yet you fuckin dumbass. Get a life besides the internet dipshit. My other hobby is f*cking your mother Timmy! Atleast someone pays attention to the bitch, because I don't.

That right there is so messed up I have no words.

[Blk01ponyGT]

Originally Posted by neckbonekat Originally Posted by dcrow i have come to the realization that every one has there own opinion. with that being said i have only one thing to say PEOPLE LIE BUT DYNO NUMBERS DO NOT. 8 HORSE POWER WITH LONG TUBES. WTF!! what i mean by that is with long tubes which is what i have right now is pretty much a waste of money when you consider how much they cost, how much it cost in labor to install them or even how much time it takes to install them if you do it your self. i am a prime example of listening to everyone else instead of doing the smart thing and asking someone who really knows and has had long tubes or shorties, instead,here i am listening to morons that probably don't even have a mustang and are typing threads on the forum because they read an article in the mustang magazines and now they think they are a mustang guru. so to make a long story short my headers are coming off because 1 i have eibach sportline's on my car and it sits too low. 2 i only gained 8 horse power 3 you have to remove them every time you have to drop your tranny[ that is not worth 8 horespower!!!!] All I have to say to that is you have no tune dumb ass! Only 8 horses Whaaaaaaaaaah!

haha ....so does anyone have a write up on installing shorties?

[Blk01ponyGT]

also, would i need to drop the K and shit to install the shorties too? ive heard its alot easyer than longtubes

[neckbonekat]

Originally Posted by Blk01ponyGT also, would i need to drop the K and shit to install the shorties too? ive heard its alot easyer than longtubes

Who ever told you it was easier lied. That is why people say if you are going to bother doing headers at all, you may as well get LT headers. Better to do all that work to see some gains than just torque gains in the first two gears with shorties. LT are one of those mods like the X pipe. The more power you make the more effective it becomes. I can't find any shorty install instructions for our cars. I found two for the 05-07 Stangs and one for a classic stang, but nothing for 99-04.

[mustangmanic]

02Stang... wtf is your problem man. I gave my opinion and you still insist on argueing with me. SHUT THE FUCK UP MAN! all that comes outta your mouth/hands is ignorant mean shit. Go fuck ur self man cuz i know no woman would do you with the way you run your mouth/hands. I sure hope you're not like this in person.

dcrow... I believe most of us do have mustangs here or at least intrested in buying one. Why would we bullshit our pictures and mods to other ppl over the internet? People that we might meet in person sumtime our lifetimes.
Its ok though, you're a new member, you didnt know any better...
But get to know the members here before you start in on talking shit to us ok

My name's Patrick, I have a 2002 Mustang GT thats lightly modded with the mods listed in my signature. I live in Indiana and I'm glad to meet you... now that i've introduced myself, talk smack all you want

[02StangGToWNEr]

Originally Posted by mustangmanic 02Stang... wtf is your problem man. I gave my opinion and you still insist on argueing with me. SHUT THE FUCK UP MAN! all that comes outta your mouth/hands is ignorant mean shit. Go fuck ur self man cuz i know no woman would do you with the way you run your mouth/hands. I sure hope you're not like this in person. dcrow... I believe most of us do have mustangs here or at least intrested in buying one. Why would we bullshit our pictures and mods to other ppl over the internet? People that we might meet in person sumtime our lifetimes. Its ok though, you're a new member, you didnt know any better... But get to know the members here before you start in on talking shit to us ok My name's Patrick, I have a 2002 Mustang GT thats lightly modded with the mods listed in my signature. I live in Indiana and I'm glad to meet you... now that i've introduced myself, talk smack all you want

Your still here??................

[Blk01ponyGT]

i love you guys

[dcrow]

half you monkey cocks that are posting probably don't even have headers on your car yet so for you to talk shit about something you don't even have is fckin unbelieveable.
i sat there and saw the dyno numbers,imo,fckin 8 horsepower isn,t worth 600.00 to 1200.00 dollars depending on if you have them installed.
invest that money in a supercharger.

[Blk01ponyGT]

this is the first time on this forum ive seen a thread go to complete shit talking...haha

[dcrow]

like i said dynos do not lie.
i'm not saying that long tubes doesn't make any hoespower,
i'm saying for the horespower that you get it is not worth it.
you ask any professional racer which are some of the guys that i have talked to and they will tell you also it is not worth it.

[02StangGToWNEr]

dcrow, most of the people don't care to listen so let them waste money. I have seen both tested, S/C & N/A with Shorties & LT's, and the differences are very minimal. Most of these guys are just going by other peoples opinions, rather than facts. Then guys like mustangmanic, try to sound smart, when that idiot couldn't even install anything himself, so he bought the car already modded, and with the easiest mods to boot. And mustangmanic, I have had more women in one day, than you had in your entire life, so .