[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by dcrow Originally Posted by ChrisJ Originally Posted by dcrow i have come to the realization that every one has there own opinion. with that being said i have only one thing to say PEOPLE LIE BUT DYNO NUMBERS DO NOT. 8 HORSE POWER WITH LONG TUBES. WTF!! what i mean by that is with long tubes which is what i have right now is pretty much a waste of money when you consider how much they cost, how much it cost in labor to install them or even how much time it takes to install them if you do it your self. i am a prime example of listening to everyone else instead of doing the smart thing and asking someone who really knows and has had long tubes or shorties, instead,here i am listening to morons that probably don't even have a mustang and are typing threads on the forum because they read an article in the mustang magazines and now they think they are a mustang guru. so to make a long story short my headers are coming off because 1 i have eibach sportline's on my car and it sits too low. 2 i only gained 8 horse power 3 you have to remove them every time you have to drop your tranny[ that is not worth 8 horespower!!!!] You need either a tune or a new tuner... I have seen 15rwhp with the longtubes...Over the 6rwhp I saw with shorties...And whit boost the difference is alot more...The power comes in at different RPM ranges though... And I also went with ceramic coating and thus I noticed a nice decrease in under hood temps... I wish you ahd the dyno graphs too because I am yet to find a dyno that supports your claims... that is what i am trying to tell you. your quote i have seen 15rwhp with long tubes over 6 rwhp with shorties. OK I WAS OFF BY 1 HP. like i was saying it is very minimal,bro if you can feel 8 hp while you are in the car i need to ride with you.

That was N/A...

Yes it makes a huge difference when you are boosted...

I promise...It is basic common sense...Longtubes flow better then shorties...With boost the quicker you car get air out the quicker you can get air in...

I think you might be upset with the shorties and the centri blower...But thats on you...

By what you have stated is that a car with 265rwhp is not much better then a car with 256rwhp?

Um that RWHP is hard to just find...You would feel it...

[Blk01ponyGT]

so tell me...on an N/A car...just bolt ons...is longtubes going to make a huge differance over shorties....not boosted or anything...thats what i wanna know

[Smoothgrandmama]

Originally Posted by Blk01ponyGT so tell me...on an N/A car...just bolt ons...is longtubes going to make a huge differance over shorties....not boosted or anything...thats what i wanna know

ummm We just went over this........5-10 hp!

[ChrisJ]

Originally Posted by Blk01ponyGT so tell me...on an N/A car...just bolt ons...is longtubes going to make a huge differance over shorties....not boosted or anything...thats what i wanna know

I have two friends here in town that have the identical mustangs except for the fact that one runs longtubes and the other runs shorties...The longtube mustang beats the one with shorties evertime...Normally by a pretty decent length...

[Blk01ponyGT]

Originally Posted by Smoothgrandmama Originally Posted by Blk01ponyGT so tell me...on an N/A car...just bolt ons...is longtubes going to make a huge differance over shorties....not boosted or anything...thats what i wanna know ummm We just went over this........5-10 hp!

yeah i mean...everyones been going over it but its all just arguing

[2007calispecial]

i probobly would have reacted to the same way as he did, neckbonecat... it was hard to tell if u were kidding.. but still guy chill lol

[neckbonekat]

Originally Posted by 2007calispecial i probobly would have reacted to the same way as he did, neckbonecat... it was hard to tell if u were kidding.. but still guy chill lol

I have no idea what you are talking about and I don't feel like going back to re-read it to find out.