Air Breather Increase HP

droppedbass87 · October 15th, 2006, 01:56 PM

hey guys if you donot have an aftermarket air intake and you have the stock one...for a little hp gain and it sounds really mean also you can hear it sucking in the air very fast...take your air breather off and take the rubber piece that goes into the fender well your losing like 5 to 6 horses...its like your stang is trying to breath with puckered lips..you will feel a little bit more pep in your take offs and people will hear it also...

AtlanticBlue99 · October 15th, 2006, 02:02 PM

5-6 horses- got dyno graphs? i dont believe this

Drgnracin72 · October 15th, 2006, 02:08 PM

i call bs also. your barely gonna get even 5-6 hp from a cia so..... and they are much better flowing than the stock piping

droppedbass87 · October 15th, 2006, 04:30 PM

sure i will get it then im telling you its like opening it up bigger to breathe its like maybe 4 to 6 horses...

96Snaker · October 15th, 2006, 04:52 PM

Yea I think I'd need to see the results to believe 5-6 whp (seems a lil' steep IMO) but I have heard this from a few others before who claim the same sound fx and slight pwr improvement, ya never know, but I doubt you'd see the same hp gain from this alone as a CAI setup which is in the neighborhood of 5-10hp as well.

AtlanticBlue99 · October 15th, 2006, 05:20 PM

a cai will not net 5-10hp, especially not at the wheels, on a n/a mustang, so there is no way in hell removing the air silencer (which also draws colder air from the inner fender well) will increase power at all. yeah, you will hear the air rush in more, but that is only because you removed the silencer

96Snaker · October 15th, 2006, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by AtlanticBlue99

yeah, you will hear the air rush in more, but that is only because you removed the silencer

lol

droppedbass87 · October 15th, 2006, 07:16 PM

yeah well why do i feel a quicker throttle responce and pepier takeoffs i mean you wouldnt feel 1 hp doing that..

AtlanticBlue99 · October 15th, 2006, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by droppedbass87

yeah well why do i feel a quicker throttle responce and pepier takeoffs i mean you wouldnt feel 1 hp doing that..

i thought i said:

5-6 horses- got dyno graphs? i dont believe this

then i thought you said:

sure i will get it then im telling you its like opening it up bigger to breathe its like maybe 4 to 6 horses...

so i will wait for verification before further explaining why i disagree.

droppedbass87 · October 15th, 2006, 10:14 PM

so i guess you were beat when u were a kid or just picked on in school..right??thats why u sit here and wait for someone to post something up right...

AtlanticBlue99 · October 15th, 2006, 11:54 PM

Originally Posted by droppedbass87

so i guess you were beat when u were a kid or just picked on in school..right??thats why u sit here and wait for someone to post something up right...

Quite the contrary. I am still in high school. I was actually raised in a fortunate environment, but I just don't understand the reasoning behind removing a factory silencer, maintaining the factory air box drawing in warmer air through the same paper filter element and restrictive inlet piping and still making more power- and 4-6 at that.

You said you could provide proof, so I will patiently wait.

Drgnracin72 · October 16th, 2006, 01:02 AM

you feel it but its in your head. your brain will make you feel all kinds of things

AtlanticBlue99 · October 16th, 2006, 07:14 AM

Just like when I bought my cai, because I heard it, it must make power- right? This reasoning could only justified my money and labor put into it...

ChrisJ · October 16th, 2006, 09:20 AM

It was prolly just your mind playing tricks...You might feel it alittle bit but not 5-6 rwhp...

FaStStAnG5-0 · October 16th, 2006, 10:11 AM

there aint no way that you are getting that HP by just taking out your silencer... sorry, but i don't believe one bit of that because my MAC fenderwell CAI with the MAC performance filter didn't do much & it has WAY better piping & is drawing cold air in from the fenderwell through a performance filter. there is no way that your restrictive stock set-up minus the silencer with a stock/cheap air filter is making 6 more RWHP..

& that was pretty gay to try & make fun of AB for calling out your BS.. if you spread misinformation you are going to get called out, don't get all butt hurt about it when you know it's wrong.... nice try though.

03 R Code · October 16th, 2006, 11:28 AM

Not to take sides here or anything, but I did read in a mustang mag that removing the air silencer on my Mach would net a hp gain. Can't remember the #'s but I am thinking they were around 4-5hp. and also doing as little as removing the screen in the MAF would net about 7 hp. but then the car runs pretty rich, a little too rich for daily driving without a tune. I'll try to find out which magazine printed that. And all results were obtained on a dyno.

AtlanticBlue99 · October 16th, 2006, 03:46 PM

I don't believe that either. The MAF screen is less restrictive than the filter, so it cannot possibly give a gain. It is just there to keep the MAF free of potential internal debris damage.

Please show that the removal of the silencer is giving 4-6hp; I just don't believe a gain- if any- would be that high without proof.

The numbers would have to be in ideally the same temperature settings and cool down periods to be truthful too. And I believe an avg. of 3 runs for accuracy of the dyno is needed for each setup to find a gain as small as 4-6hp.

droppedbass87 · October 16th, 2006, 06:50 PM

ok well how much is a dyno text then??

AtlanticBlue99 · October 16th, 2006, 10:38 PM

dyno runs are generall 75 bucks for 3 pulls with printouts.

itschristorres8 · October 16th, 2006, 10:46 PM

Originally Posted by droppedbass87

so i guess you were beat when u were a kid or just picked on in school..right??thats why u sit here and wait for someone to post something up right...

question...
what in the hell does that have to do with him disagreeing with you?!

i disagree too. yea it seems like a good idea. he just wants to see it dyno proven...like the rest of us

October 15th, 2006, 01:56 PM	#1
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,894 iTrader: 0 reviews	Air Breather Increase HP hey guys if you donot have an aftermarket air intake and you have the stock one...for a little hp gain and it sounds really mean also you can hear it sucking in the air very fast...take your air breather off and take the rubber piece that goes into the fender well your losing like 5 to 6 horses...its like your stang is trying to breath with puckered lips..you will feel a little bit more pep in your take offs and people will hear it also...

October 15th, 2006, 02:02 PM	#2
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	5-6 horses- got dyno graphs? i dont believe this __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

October 15th, 2006, 02:08 PM	#3
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	i call bs also. your barely gonna get even 5-6 hp from a cia so..... and they are much better flowing than the stock piping __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

October 15th, 2006, 04:30 PM	#4
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,894 iTrader: 0 reviews	sure i will get it then im telling you its like opening it up bigger to breathe its like maybe 4 to 6 horses... __________________ fraziers transmission service..

October 15th, 2006, 04:52 PM	#5
96Snaker MM's Coffee Addict 1999 SVT Cobra 441rwhp/393rwtq Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,164 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yea I think I'd need to see the results to believe 5-6 whp (seems a lil' steep IMO) but I have heard this from a few others before who claim the same sound fx and slight pwr improvement, ya never know, but I doubt you'd see the same hp gain from this alone as a CAI setup which is in the neighborhood of 5-10hp as well. __________________ Vortech V2, intercooled @ 10psi. Maximum Motorsports supsension goodie bag car less roll cage. Built '04 IRS. Hodge-podge of Roush/Stalker panels.

October 15th, 2006, 05:20 PM	#6
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	a cai will not net 5-10hp, especially not at the wheels, on a n/a mustang, so there is no way in hell removing the air silencer (which also draws colder air from the inner fender well) will increase power at all. yeah, you will hear the air rush in more, but that is only because you removed the silencer __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

October 15th, 2006, 07:16 PM	#8
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,894 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah well why do i feel a quicker throttle responce and pepier takeoffs i mean you wouldnt feel 1 hp doing that.. __________________ fraziers transmission service..

October 15th, 2006, 10:14 PM	#10
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,894 iTrader: 0 reviews	so i guess you were beat when u were a kid or just picked on in school..right??thats why u sit here and wait for someone to post something up right... __________________ fraziers transmission service..

October 16th, 2006, 01:02 AM	#12
Drgnracin72 I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: somewhere in oklahoma Posts: 10,635 iTrader: 2 reviews	you feel it but its in your head. your brain will make you feel all kinds of things __________________ RIP ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical, liberal minority and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. One Big Ass Mistake America SHEEPDOGS

October 16th, 2006, 07:14 AM	#13
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	Just like when I bought my cai, because I heard it, it must make power- right? This reasoning could only justified my money and labor put into it... __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

October 16th, 2006, 09:20 AM	#14
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 38,220 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 10 reviews	It was prolly just your mind playing tricks...You might feel it alittle bit but not 5-6 rwhp... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

October 16th, 2006, 10:11 AM	#15
FaStStAnG5-0 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mooresville, NC Posts: 1,221 iTrader: 0 reviews	there aint no way that you are getting that HP by just taking out your silencer... sorry, but i don't believe one bit of that because my MAC fenderwell CAI with the MAC performance filter didn't do much & it has WAY better piping & is drawing cold air in from the fenderwell through a performance filter. there is no way that your restrictive stock set-up minus the silencer with a stock/cheap air filter is making 6 more RWHP.. & that was pretty gay to try & make fun of AB for calling out your BS.. if you spread misinformation you are going to get called out, don't get all butt hurt about it when you know it's wrong.... nice try though. __________________ http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2461223 1994 GT: MSD 6AL, BBK O/R H-Pipe, Dynomax Race Bullet mufflers, 3:73 rear, Hurst Short Shifter, MAC cold air intake & much more coming soon!

October 16th, 2006, 11:28 AM	#16
03 R Code MM Fanatic unstoppable @ speed of light Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Knees deep in dat ass Posts: 3,104 iTrader: 0 reviews	Not to take sides here or anything, but I did read in a mustang mag that removing the air silencer on my Mach would net a hp gain. Can't remember the #'s but I am thinking they were around 4-5hp. and also doing as little as removing the screen in the MAF would net about 7 hp. but then the car runs pretty rich, a little too rich for daily driving without a tune. I'll try to find out which magazine printed that. And all results were obtained on a dyno.

October 16th, 2006, 03:46 PM	#17
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	I don't believe that either. The MAF screen is less restrictive than the filter, so it cannot possibly give a gain. It is just there to keep the MAF free of potential internal debris damage. Please show that the removal of the silencer is giving 4-6hp; I just don't believe a gain- if any- would be that high without proof. The numbers would have to be in ideally the same temperature settings and cool down periods to be truthful too. And I believe an avg. of 3 runs for accuracy of the dyno is needed for each setup to find a gain as small as 4-6hp. __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

October 16th, 2006, 06:50 PM	#18
droppedbass87 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: diberville,mississippi Posts: 1,894 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok well how much is a dyno text then?? __________________ fraziers transmission service..

October 16th, 2006, 10:38 PM	#19
AtlanticBlue99 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1999 Ford Mustang V6 14.79 @ 92.15 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: University of Georgia Posts: 8,854 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 0 reviews	dyno runs are generall 75 bucks for 3 pulls with printouts. __________________ ModdedAutos 1999 Mustang V6 I used to list my mods here but stopped when I exceeded 255 characters.

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