[thatonekidw/theGT]

I have been doing some research on a supercharger kit for my 00 GT.
Im just confused or overwhelmed with the amount of info out there.
Im just looking for some clarification on a few things.
1.I am looking for a kit that I can bolt to my stock motor(heads and bottom end).
2.I am looking for the cheapest (costwise) complete kit I can order.
3.I want something that will make decent power but still be reliable, on the stock block, but in time I want to be able to up the boost when I rebuild the motor.
I am planning on doing the install myself. I have heard it is simple step by step. I did a complete turbo system upgrade on my talon and that was hell so Im hoping this will be easier. As far as the tune goes I really dont know what to do there. Will the kit i order come with a canned tune? Should I get a SCT tune? Or there is a mustang place nearby called pauls high performance ( paulshp.com) where i can get a dyno tune.
thanks for all the help!
-Scott

[03_StangGuy]

Any kit will work with the stock motor, you can run about 10 psi on the stock setup, cheapest is used, look here http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-04-9-psi.html any supercharger is upgradable.

[rk_2000_Z/28]

Positive displacement blowers like the Kenne Bell kit are very popular for the 2V mod motors.

Centrifical blowers are also a very popular style. The Procharger kits are some of the best around.

Procharger 99-04 GT Stage II P-1SC Supercharger w/Intercooler [PC-1FE212-SCI] - $4,968.51

All you need is a MAF, bigger injectors, and a dyno tune. All of that will cost you ~$1,000.

With basic mechanical skills and the help of a friend something like this can be installed in a day.

[AndrewA.]

I have seen some used kits(complete) on here going for about half the price. Thats an option to save on some money and not sacrafice quality

[bartee25]

Go with that 2.1 KB for sale on here, its a hell of a deal

[thatonekidw/theGT]

awesome thanks for the input keep it coming
I have had several bad experiences with used parts so i am leaning toward buying a new kit. So I can run about 8-10 psi on my stock block with either the centi (vortec or procharger) or a twin screw (KB) Any advantages between the two?
are there any full complete everything i need kits out there? (supercharger, intercooler hoses, clamps, lines, injectors mafs and canned tunes?

thanks
-Scott

[rk_2000_Z/28]

Most kits you can buy come complete as far as hardware. You usually still have to buy things like MAF, injectors, fuel pump, and tune. The link I posted is a pretty complete kit. Kenne Bell sells complete kits also. If you want a new Kenne Bell kit than you have to buy from their site. They don't sell through vendors like other companies do.

[~C~]

Check out Texas Hot rods. They quoted me like $4500 for the complete P1SC system with the MAF, injectors, Fuel pump, and chip. I would suggest you get an SCT or diablo and get it tuned though. I posted it a while back in here or in the general tech section with the link and all. Vortec though is cheaper used and still quality. I like the procharger though, its self contained oil so you dont have to tap your oil pan. I got mine used and it is fine. Look around, there are good buys. The few for sale on here are pretty decent buys. I think there is a P1SC and a KB for sale in the classifieds. Save the cash, its just as good as the new ones. Oh yea and btw, Procharger is excellent with customer service.

[03_StangGuy]

Originally Posted by thatonekidw/theGT awesome thanks for the input keep it coming I have had several bad experiences with used parts so i am leaning toward buying a new kit. So I can run about 8-10 psi on my stock block with either the centi (vortec or procharger) or a twin screw (KB) Any advantages between the two? are there any full complete everything i need kits out there? (supercharger, intercooler hoses, clamps, lines, injectors mafs and canned tunes? thanks -Scott

You forgot Paxton in there. Centi blower are more efficient higher up. Im not a big fan of vortech for big power, procharger is good but you need to get a bigger blower like the D1 if you goin for more power. The paxton Novi 2000 is efficient at 10 psi and can go all the way up to 20 somethin. If youe goin centri and plan on buildin up Id go with the Novi. Twin screws make torque earlier and have more of the whine but thats about it on the plus side. They are a lil easier to install too. As far as kits they all come with everythin to "run" on the car but their tunes arent reliable asa dyno tune and youll get more power wit em. Youll need injectors and a fuel pump. The intercooler isnt really as important as with a turbo cuz theres less heat in the equation. Itll mainly help with heat soak since your get fresh air from outside the engine.

[rapmeister99]

Has anyone heard about the Sallen Superchargers for the mustangs? Price over product is it worth the cost? 600 HP for $6500?

[rapmeister99]

sorry its 7200 for the 600 HP not 6500

[v606er]

whipples are always good

[thatonekidw/theGT]

Basically i just want to be able to buy everything from one place for the best price possible.Im pretty set on new kit but im trying to keep my eyes open for a deal i like. I think im leaning toward centris right now, b/c of the price vs others new appears to be cheaper. correct?
A couple more questions.

1.On my talon i had a greddy type s bypass valve. What kind do you guys recommend for our cars? Not only do i want the power of the supercharger but i want the sound to be just right too. My turbo whined like no tomorrow and sounded like a semi air brake when i shifted. It was nice. This will be my 1st supercharger so im tryin to compare and contrast the differences in the turbo and the supercharger, I know the basics but just some of the details.

2.At 8psi do i need to get a intercooler with my kit? at what psi is a intercooler needed? Im considering just getting one b/c if up the power in the future i will prolly need one. correct>?
3. Right now i hae 4.10s can I make it work with a supercharger>? i know most ppl go with 373's but thats just not an option right now.
4.Its gonna be 99% a street car right now. Im not lookin for ridiculous power.
My talon was 350 AWHP so i want something around there.
So with a tune, full exhaust, and the supercharger at 8-10 psi any guesstimations as to where ill be at?
thanks for all the great info and help!
keep it coming!
-Scott

[TROJENHORSE]

I am in a similar situation, want a complete kit, reliability for DD and street drivability,also price and ease of install. What will this due to mpg since is one more belt to drive off of crank pulley? will supercharger owners post pics and comment on lessons learned, what would you do differently,add to setup I think i am going used since a rebuild is not very expensive, sould I need one. Saw a thread about a $1500 dollar setup using a used head unit, sounds doable and price efficient. sorry for hijack you thread but all thi info should be relevent.

[TROJENHORSE]

also on the procharger, if ti uses its own self contained oil does that effect reliability, longevity of head unit?

[~C~]

Originally Posted by thatonekidw/theGT Basically i just want to be able to buy everything from one place for the best price possible.Im pretty set on new kit but im trying to keep my eyes open for a deal i like. I think im leaning toward centris right now, b/c of the price vs others new appears to be cheaper. correct? A couple more questions. 1.On my talon i had a greddy type s bypass valve. What kind do you guys recommend for our cars? Not only do i want the power of the supercharger but i want the sound to be just right too. My turbo whined like no tomorrow and sounded like a semi air brake when i shifted. It was nice. This will be my 1st supercharger so im tryin to compare and contrast the differences in the turbo and the supercharger, I know the basics but just some of the details. 2.At 8psi do i need to get a intercooler with my kit? at what psi is a intercooler needed? Im considering just getting one b/c if up the power in the future i will prolly need one. correct>? 3. Right now i hae 4.10s can I make it work with a supercharger>? i know most ppl go with 373's but thats just not an option right now. 4.Its gonna be 99% a street car right now. Im not lookin for ridiculous power. My talon was 350 AWHP so i want something around there. So with a tune, full exhaust, and the supercharger at 8-10 psi any guesstimations as to where ill be at? thanks for all the great info and help! keep it coming! -Scott

1. Im using the procharger surge valve, the one that came with the kit. no clue as to how it sounds compared to a turbo set up.
2. No you dont, but it will help.
3. yes.
4. yes you will be above that.

Originally Posted by TROJENHORSE also on the procharger, if ti uses its own self contained oil does that effect reliability, longevity of head unit?

I dont think so. I like it cause you dont have to tap your oil pan. It can effect the longetivity of it if you dont change the oil, but it is the same when you tap the oil pan.

[thatonekidw/theGT]

alright thanks C

[~C~]

NP

[03_StangGuy]

I tapped my oil pan this weekend for my novi and its wasnt as hard as i thought. I used a cone shaped hole bit, a standard bit doesnt work well with the thin metal. and then just tapped the hole. Pretty easy just takes a lil time. The only thing i dont like about the self contained oiling is theres no way to cool the oil. I know it wouldnt get as hot as with a turbo but theres friction and compression of air so heat builds up.

[~C~]

Originally Posted by 03_StangGuy I tapped my oil pan this weekend for my novi and its wasnt as hard as i thought. I used a cone shaped hole bit, a standard bit doesnt work well with the thin metal. and then just tapped the hole. Pretty easy just takes a lil time. The only thing i dont like about the self contained oiling is theres no way to cool the oil. I know it wouldnt get as hot as with a turbo but theres friction and compression of air so heat builds up.

yes. It does, but I dont think procharger would be in business anymore if they had over heating oil problems on all the s/cs. You need to change it every 6k miles.