1badstang Fkd Me Over

e3sean · November 10th, 2008, 05:46 PM

so i know i said it once but if you didnt read it the first time here is what happend.

i sold 1badstang a transmission and intake well something happend to the transmission and i refunded him in full,well when i went to refund him he asked me to refund it to his dads account cause he couldnt accept payments at the time so i did,they had the same last name differnt first name. well on the 1st ov november i noticed that my paypal account was -718.xx cause his bank did a reversal on the payment. so now its like he never paid me for anything but he had the intake and the refund for the transmission and the 740.xx that the bank refunded him and since it was the bank that did the reversal paypal couldnt to shit about it. so i tried to get the money back from the refund that i gave to his dads account and since it has been 45 days they cant.

so i called my bank and am having them do a reversal for the payments i sent via e check to his dad only 600.00 but still better then nothing. so i will still get fucked over on that 118.00 but i learned a lesson when it comes to sellin shit online..........craigslist or nothing......

trueblue01 · November 10th, 2008, 06:48 PM

Is he too far away to get his ass kicked?

Got Ford · November 10th, 2008, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by trueblue01

Is he too far away to get his ass kicked?

hmm well his profile says he's from long island, i know there is some members living on long island COUGH *rags* COUGH that could maybe help you out

G.T. Rags · November 10th, 2008, 07:20 PM

situations like these it's best to not start making threats to go kick his ass... thats for starters....

also, i'm more then willing to help correspond with the local police force and get u in touch with the people u need to talk to so this can be rectified....

BWAL · November 10th, 2008, 07:36 PM

you'd think that after seeing what happens to other scammers, people wouldn't be dumb enough to keep trying to fuck people over

78mach1 · November 10th, 2008, 08:19 PM

wow that sucks, to bad, i really like paypal tho, my dad does alot of guitar dealing online and paypal has always helped him and always made sure he didnt get ripped.

to bad they couldnt do the same

BoostFiend · November 10th, 2008, 08:36 PM

Hearing abotu this shit makes me angry! I feel for you bud and I hope it all works out in the end. Who knows maybe he will drop that tranny on his foot or something?

-Joeyy- · November 10th, 2008, 08:50 PM

a good lesson learned i guess

but you know what they say what comes around goes around... maybe his drive shaft will blow through his floor and cut his leg off

americanmuscle90 · November 10th, 2008, 08:50 PM

Don't ever refund shit. Always put "selling as is, no warrenty".

woody1 · November 10th, 2008, 09:00 PM

dont use paypal ever. Scammer heaven and they know it and you guys continue to use them

Traidmarx · November 10th, 2008, 11:23 PM

yea sucks to hear about it man...but good luck getting your bank to dispute an E-Check....More than likely they'll just determine that it's a civil matter between yourself and the other party involved.

e3sean · November 11th, 2008, 12:04 AM

well i am still hopeing that it is just a big mistake and he gets ahold of me and clears everything up,i talked to him on the phone a few times and he seemed to be a really good guy and he has been on here for a while but i no longer trust anyone. pay pal tried to help but they couldnt. they gave me some good info i filed a internet fraud case aganst him and his dad that is reversable if he gets ahold of me but if i dont hear from him in the next week i am getting ahold of the police department i have his name and address to where i shipped everything to so i am sure he can be tracked down.

i appreciate all your support guys.

93hatch · November 11th, 2008, 01:39 AM

if you still have his address mail him your huskys dog shit, every week, for 8 years

Arsenal · November 11th, 2008, 01:41 AM

Originally Posted by 93hatch

if you still have his address mail him your huskys dog shit, every week, for 8 years

don't make me post it up again

don't make me do it

don't ma

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-arsehole.html

damn it now look what you did

93hatch · November 11th, 2008, 01:46 AM

Originally Posted by Arsenal

don't make me post it up again

don't make me do it

don't ma

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-arsehole.html

damn it now look what you did

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA dude your story inspired me

78mach1 · November 11th, 2008, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by woody1

dont use paypal ever. Scammer heaven and they know it and you guys continue to use them

my dad runs a guitar dealer business over the internet and he uses nothing but paypal, he is paypal protected and uses conformation numbers.

paypal has helped him get his money back more then a dozen times, and also helped freeze the other guys account.

as long as you have a good bread trail for them to go off of, they will always help you

trueblue01 · November 11th, 2008, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Arsenal

don't make me post it up again

don't make me do it

don't ma

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-arsehole.html

damn it now look what you did

I think I hurt myself laughing

91cobra5.0 · November 11th, 2008, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by Arsenal

don't make me post it up again

don't make me do it

don't ma

http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-arsehole.html

damn it now look what you did

id be just as mad as another guy there is such a thing as going to far......

1slo5.0 · November 11th, 2008, 03:18 PM

Paypal sucks. That was your first mistake. I've been scammed out of thousands of dollars via paypal. Unfortunately it took me a long time to learn my lesson....

Paypal has built in protection for consumers but that protection also leaves a hole wide open for crooks and there is nothing you as a seller can do about it. Example - if you sell a set of heads on Ebay for $1000 and the buyer pays with Paypal the buyer can file a complaint saying the item was never recieved or the item was damaged. Then Paypal will issue a refund and take the funds out of your account. If you have no funds in your account you will have a negative balance and have to transfer funds in to cover it or there will be legal issues. The buyer doesn't have to prove anything other than he/she paid you for goods or services. Paypal requests that you prove the item wasn't damaged and provide them with a tracking number to prove it was shipped/recieved but that really means nothing. Even if you provide a tracking number Paypal issues a refund. I use to run a business and I used Paypal for online purchases from my online store. Several times I was screwed by Paypal. I sold some parts several years ago and the guy claimed they were damaged and filed a complaint. I told the guy to send the parts back, I would issue him a refund and also cover all shipping. He said he isn't sending anything back and he won't have to because he will get his refund either way. To me he sounded like an experienced Paypal con artist. I've had several people claim they never recieved parts and I provided tracking numbers and delivery confirmation for all of them. Paypal still refunded the money to the buyers. Several buyers ended up with new parts and never had to pay for them. If you want to be a crook you can buy shit with Paypal and never have to pay for any of it. Paypal sucks.

89StangGT · November 11th, 2008, 03:35 PM

Man that sucks. I use paypal alot and didn't know there was such an issue..maybe i should stop. I hope this gets resolved.

November 10th, 2008, 05:46 PM	#1
e3sean I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 lx 9.68@142 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: goldsboro NC Posts: 5,596 iTrader: 0 reviews	1badstang Fkd Me Over so i know i said it once but if you didnt read it the first time here is what happend. i sold 1badstang a transmission and intake well something happend to the transmission and i refunded him in full,well when i went to refund him he asked me to refund it to his dads account cause he couldnt accept payments at the time so i did,they had the same last name differnt first name. well on the 1st ov november i noticed that my paypal account was -718.xx cause his bank did a reversal on the payment. so now its like he never paid me for anything but he had the intake and the refund for the transmission and the 740.xx that the bank refunded him and since it was the bank that did the reversal paypal couldnt to shit about it. so i tried to get the money back from the refund that i gave to his dads account and since it has been 45 days they cant. so i called my bank and am having them do a reversal for the payments i sent via e check to his dad only 600.00 but still better then nothing. so i will still get fucked over on that 118.00 but i learned a lesson when it comes to sellin shit online..........craigslist or nothing...... __________________

November 10th, 2008, 06:48 PM	#2
trueblue01 Enthusiast 1989 Mustang LX 10.98@126.7 NA Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 698 iTrader: 0 reviews	Is he too far away to get his ass kicked? __________________ Never fast enough.

November 10th, 2008, 08:36 PM	#7
BoostFiend Regular '03 Cobra, '89 +'91 Notch 11.63@120.08, Cobra Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Oregon Posts: 342 iTrader: 0 reviews	Hearing abotu this shit makes me angry! I feel for you bud and I hope it all works out in the end. Who knows maybe he will drop that tranny on his foot or something? __________________

November 11th, 2008, 12:04 AM	#12
e3sean I Post Entirely Way Too Much 1988 lx 9.68@142 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: goldsboro NC Posts: 5,596 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i am still hopeing that it is just a big mistake and he gets ahold of me and clears everything up,i talked to him on the phone a few times and he seemed to be a really good guy and he has been on here for a while but i no longer trust anyone. pay pal tried to help but they couldnt. they gave me some good info i filed a internet fraud case aganst him and his dad that is reversable if he gets ahold of me but if i dont hear from him in the next week i am getting ahold of the police department i have his name and address to where i shipped everything to so i am sure he can be tracked down. i appreciate all your support guys. __________________

November 11th, 2008, 01:39 AM	#13
93hatch Banned 1992 Lx 11.39@119.24 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Az Posts: 11,665 iTrader: 0 reviews	if you still have his address mail him your huskys dog shit, every week, for 8 years __________________ [QUOTE=93mustank;2577445]We speed tested my right arm for quickness in shifts... So he could design the cam for proper shift recovery.[/QUOTE]

November 10th, 2008, 08:19 PM	#6
78mach1 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: utah Posts: 1,365 iTrader: 0 reviews	wow that sucks, to bad, i really like paypal tho, my dad does alot of guitar dealing online and paypal has always helped him and always made sure he didnt get ripped. to bad they couldnt do the same

November 10th, 2008, 08:50 PM	#8
-Joeyy- Banned 1989 Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Mastic Beach Posts: 392 iTrader: 0 reviews	a good lesson learned i guess but you know what they say what comes around goes around... maybe his drive shaft will blow through his floor and cut his leg off

November 10th, 2008, 08:50 PM	#9
americanmuscle90 Newbie 1990 mustang gt n/a Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: washington Posts: 17 iTrader: 0 reviews	Don't ever refund shit. Always put "selling as is, no warrenty".

November 10th, 2008, 09:00 PM	#10
woody1 Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 559 iTrader: 0 reviews	dont use paypal ever. Scammer heaven and they know it and you guys continue to use them

November 10th, 2008, 11:23 PM	#11
Traidmarx Hardcore Enthusiast 1995 Mustang GT SLOWER THAN OLD PEOPLE FUCK..:-( Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Roanoke,VA Posts: 2,079 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea sucks to hear about it man...but good luck getting your bank to dispute an E-Check....More than likely they'll just determine that it's a civil matter between yourself and the other party involved.

November 11th, 2008, 03:18 PM	#19
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	Paypal sucks. That was your first mistake. I've been scammed out of thousands of dollars via paypal. Unfortunately it took me a long time to learn my lesson.... Paypal has built in protection for consumers but that protection also leaves a hole wide open for crooks and there is nothing you as a seller can do about it. Example - if you sell a set of heads on Ebay for $1000 and the buyer pays with Paypal the buyer can file a complaint saying the item was never recieved or the item was damaged. Then Paypal will issue a refund and take the funds out of your account. If you have no funds in your account you will have a negative balance and have to transfer funds in to cover it or there will be legal issues. The buyer doesn't have to prove anything other than he/she paid you for goods or services. Paypal requests that you prove the item wasn't damaged and provide them with a tracking number to prove it was shipped/recieved but that really means nothing. Even if you provide a tracking number Paypal issues a refund. I use to run a business and I used Paypal for online purchases from my online store. Several times I was screwed by Paypal. I sold some parts several years ago and the guy claimed they were damaged and filed a complaint. I told the guy to send the parts back, I would issue him a refund and also cover all shipping. He said he isn't sending anything back and he won't have to because he will get his refund either way. To me he sounded like an experienced Paypal con artist. I've had several people claim they never recieved parts and I provided tracking numbers and delivery confirmation for all of them. Paypal still refunded the money to the buyers. Several buyers ended up with new parts and never had to pay for them. If you want to be a crook you can buy shit with Paypal and never have to pay for any of it. Paypal sucks. __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

November 11th, 2008, 03:35 PM	#20
89StangGT Moderator SVT Cobra Mustang Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Toledo, Ohio Posts: 1,850 iTrader: 0 reviews	Man that sucks. I use paypal alot and didn't know there was such an issue..maybe i should stop. I hope this gets resolved. __________________ There's a reason Ford codenamed them the Terminator

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