Manual Brake Conversion?

ModMustang97GT · April 8th, 2009, 06:17 PM

Anyone know anything about this manual brake conversion. I would love to get rid of the stock system and have an all manual set up. Steering and brakes. However, I want to make sure the manual conversion is strong enough for some bigger brakes.

http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...0%201&comp=LRS

97S281 · April 8th, 2009, 06:39 PM

Why manual brakes?

ModMustang97GT · April 8th, 2009, 06:48 PM

Lighter, and doesn't depend on engine power to work.

4.6LMadness · April 8th, 2009, 07:53 PM

I would like to have this because i have had nothing but problems from the factory setup.

MustangMatt96GT · April 9th, 2009, 12:09 AM

Im converting mine as we speak... but thats because mine is a drag car...

ModMustang97GT · April 9th, 2009, 03:46 PM

Yeah, that is what I'm wondering. If its designed for drag car, it may not be suited for road racing. The pedal effort might be higher than what would be ideal.

RTRBURN · June 15th, 2009, 09:16 PM

So did you ever do the swap? Details man details.

1TITAN · June 16th, 2009, 04:10 PM

i had thought about it to... my fear was everyday driving though, the anti lock has saved my ass a couple of times on the street.... if you hit the brake to hard on the track its oh well half the time and try again....

if you fuck up and panic with a break setup like that on the street its gonna be a skid brake locking tire sliding fucking disaster

.... thats just my train of thought (i could also try driving like a normal person to i guess)

RTRBURN · June 16th, 2009, 09:19 PM

Im upgrading my whole brake system to an Aerospace kit this winter. Its going to be a manual system. Every pound counts in my situtation, Ill be adding weight back with Blower, Intake and cage.

01sta1k3r · June 16th, 2009, 11:27 PM

how much harder r manual brakes to stop with cuz im considering doing them by myself i will be doin mostly ttrack time notmuch street driving

MustangMatt96GT · June 17th, 2009, 01:27 AM

Never driven my car yet with the manual brakes (tomorrow, I will be moving the car for the first time, into the trailer to go to the track)

But I will let you guys know...

ReverendDexter · June 17th, 2009, 01:32 AM

Originally Posted by ModMustang97GT

Yeah, that is what I'm wondering. If its designed for drag car, it may not be suited for road racing. The pedal effort might be higher than what would be ideal.

Yeah, I would advise against this for a corner carver.

I understand that ABS is argued both ways (I prefer it myself, but understand the logic behind those that don't), but to get rid of the brake booster is asking for trouble.

Find a car with a vacuum brake booster, disconnect it, and drive around for a bit. You definitely lose a LOT of braking power.

For what it's worth, I am a proponent of manual steering.

4.6LMadness · June 17th, 2009, 02:46 AM

Thought about doing this. My stock brakes are all messed up. They only work with the master cylinder bolts loosened.

rainier446 · June 23rd, 2009, 01:12 AM

i have drilled and slotted rotors, totally went to stop today and the ground was slightly wet from a night drizzle and my pedal came back up towards me....why?

rainier446 · June 23rd, 2009, 01:12 AM

oh yea did i mention it was an intersection and i pooped a lil bit

bitemark46 · June 23rd, 2009, 02:30 PM

IIRC your brakes work off of hydroboost so if you go to manual you also lose your power steering as well.

1TITAN · June 25th, 2009, 04:02 PM

that just kinda sounds like your anti lock was kickin in... well no not really, i had a slight problem like that when my power steering pump went bad ( i got air in the lines and burnt it up)

MustangMatt96GT · June 25th, 2009, 04:19 PM

Brakes woreked last night... but fastest I got the car up to was 47 MPH... no good on the track passes... so we will find out Sunday if they really work.. I blew up a tranny, so now its time to get a new one in.

ModMustang97GT · July 1st, 2009, 06:22 PM

The main reason I was concerned with the power brakes is the weight and the abs. I know the abs is good, and actually can help on the track if you are lazy and don't want to brake correctly. The weight savings are pretty small really. I also liked the idea of getting rid of the lines and everything. I would love to get the car to a nice simple under the hood look. None of that extra hoses and shit that connect to god knows what.

I like the 10 wires look.
2 battery,
8 plug wires,
1 ground
1 coil plug

I should create a blue tooth wireless ecu system, that would be awesome.

1TITAN · July 2nd, 2009, 02:48 PM

thats another concern of mine like bitmark said would there be some kind of way to retain your power steering?... in my opinion im not a fan of hydroboost brakes anyways i kinda wish that ford would of just done vacuum brakes instead

April 8th, 2009, 06:17 PM	#1
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,248	Manual Brake Conversion? Anyone know anything about this manual brake conversion. I would love to get rid of the stock system and have an all manual set up. Steering and brakes. However, I want to make sure the manual conversion is strong enough for some bigger brakes. http://www.latemodelrestoration.com/...0%201&comp=LRS __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark PI Swap Spun Main Bearing... Author of The Official Suspension Guide

April 8th, 2009, 06:39 PM	#2
97S281 Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: ZEBULON N.C. Posts: 1,506	Why manual brakes? __________________

April 8th, 2009, 06:48 PM	#3
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,248	Lighter, and doesn't depend on engine power to work. __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark PI Swap Spun Main Bearing... Author of The Official Suspension Guide

April 9th, 2009, 12:09 AM	#5
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,117	Im converting mine as we speak... but thats because mine is a drag car... __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

April 9th, 2009, 03:46 PM	#6
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,248	Yeah, that is what I'm wondering. If its designed for drag car, it may not be suited for road racing. The pedal effort might be higher than what would be ideal. __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark PI Swap Spun Main Bearing... Author of The Official Suspension Guide

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April 8th, 2009, 07:53 PM	#4
4.6LMadness Enthusiast 1998 GT Mustang N/A Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth, Ohio Posts: 845	I would like to have this because i have had nothing but problems from the factory setup.

June 15th, 2009, 09:16 PM	#7
RTRBURN Regular 2000 GT 12.82@104 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bowling Green Posts: 118	So did you ever do the swap? Details man details. __________________ Ryan Stock 2V Longblock 12.82@104 N/A 11.68@116 150hp

June 16th, 2009, 04:10 PM	#8
1TITAN Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 173	i had thought about it to... my fear was everyday driving though, the anti lock has saved my ass a couple of times on the street.... if you hit the brake to hard on the track its oh well half the time and try again.... if you fuck up and panic with a break setup like that on the street its gonna be a skid brake locking tire sliding fucking disaster .... thats just my train of thought (i could also try driving like a normal person to i guess) __________________ destroy in the turns, then obliterate on the straightaway 01 GT with cold air intake and 70mm throttle body, mac long tube headers with some straight piping and a blown motor FORD STANDS FOR FINANCIALY ORDERED AND RARELY IN DEBT

June 16th, 2009, 09:19 PM	#9
RTRBURN Regular 2000 GT 12.82@104 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Bowling Green Posts: 118	Im upgrading my whole brake system to an Aerospace kit this winter. Its going to be a manual system. Every pound counts in my situtation, Ill be adding weight back with Blower, Intake and cage. __________________ Ryan Stock 2V Longblock 12.82@104 N/A 11.68@116 150hp

June 16th, 2009, 11:27 PM	#10
01sta1k3r Regular 2001 mustang GT SLOW@SLOWER Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Sioux City, IA Posts: 154	how much harder r manual brakes to stop with cuz im considering doing them by myself i will be doin mostly ttrack time notmuch street driving __________________ 01 Mustang GT LS1 Swapped Victor Jr. intake Holley 750 6010 MSD ZO6 cam All Granatelli suspension TRack times to come SOOON!

June 17th, 2009, 01:27 AM	#11
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,117	Never driven my car yet with the manual brakes (tomorrow, I will be moving the car for the first time, into the trailer to go to the track) But I will let you guys know... __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

June 17th, 2009, 02:46 AM	#13
4.6LMadness Enthusiast 1998 GT Mustang N/A Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Portsmouth, Ohio Posts: 845	Thought about doing this. My stock brakes are all messed up. They only work with the master cylinder bolts loosened. __________________ Pi Swapped, K&N CAI, Diablo Tune, BBk O/R X-Pipe with Flow's dumped and a 5.4L on its way.

June 23rd, 2009, 01:12 AM	#14
rainier446 Regular 2000 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 131	i have drilled and slotted rotors, totally went to stop today and the ground was slightly wet from a night drizzle and my pedal came back up towards me....why? __________________ The usual bolt on's + lotsa nuts.

June 23rd, 2009, 02:30 PM	#16
bitemark46 Regular Join Date: May 2008 Location: Tampa, Fl Posts: 259	IIRC your brakes work off of hydroboost so if you go to manual you also lose your power steering as well. __________________ -Mark- 98' N/A Cobra (Stock longblock) 11.79 at 114.64 (1.62 60ft)

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June 25th, 2009, 04:02 PM	#17
1TITAN Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 173	that just kinda sounds like your anti lock was kickin in... well no not really, i had a slight problem like that when my power steering pump went bad ( i got air in the lines and burnt it up) __________________ destroy in the turns, then obliterate on the straightaway 01 GT with cold air intake and 70mm throttle body, mac long tube headers with some straight piping and a blown motor FORD STANDS FOR FINANCIALY ORDERED AND RARELY IN DEBT

June 25th, 2009, 04:19 PM	#18
MustangMatt96GT All Throttle with a Bottle 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 8,117	Brakes woreked last night... but fastest I got the car up to was 47 MPH... no good on the track passes... so we will find out Sunday if they really work.. I blew up a tranny, so now its time to get a new one in. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT with a 351 swap with Stalled C4 1997 F250 Powerstroke 1999 28' Classic Dominator Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions & Thanks for the help: PoorManMotorSports "Just Cause its Smoking, don't mean its broken"

July 1st, 2009, 06:22 PM	#19
ModMustang97GT Hardcore Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT Faster than an s4 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 1,248	The main reason I was concerned with the power brakes is the weight and the abs. I know the abs is good, and actually can help on the track if you are lazy and don't want to brake correctly. The weight savings are pretty small really. I also liked the idea of getting rid of the lines and everything. I would love to get the car to a nice simple under the hood look. None of that extra hoses and shit that connect to god knows what. I like the 10 wires look. 2 battery, 8 plug wires, 1 ground 1 coil plug I should create a blue tooth wireless ecu system, that would be awesome. __________________ Aztec Gold 97GT. MM CC Plates, Panhard Bar, SFC's & Tower Brace Eibach Sway Bars H&R Race Springs/Bilstein Shocks MAC CAI, LT's, Catted H and Pro-Dumps KB Boost-a-Spark PI Swap Spun Main Bearing... Author of The Official Suspension Guide

July 2nd, 2009, 02:48 PM	#20
1TITAN Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 173	thats another concern of mine like bitmark said would there be some kind of way to retain your power steering?... in my opinion im not a fan of hydroboost brakes anyways i kinda wish that ford would of just done vacuum brakes instead __________________ destroy in the turns, then obliterate on the straightaway 01 GT with cold air intake and 70mm throttle body, mac long tube headers with some straight piping and a blown motor FORD STANDS FOR FINANCIALY ORDERED AND RARELY IN DEBT