Never too it to the track yet!

dmachine22 · January 29th, 2007, 11:30 PM

I have a 5spd GT 99 and I have bbk cai, bbk under drive pulleys, cheap racing chip, 75mm plenum and t/b, and full flowmaster exhaust system 40 series into dump mufflers with no cats, I know it depends on the driver when shifting but roughly what should that run at a track and how much of a difference would a stage one clutch and drag radials make?

White99stang · January 29th, 2007, 11:52 PM

a clutch will not make you faster, unless your stock clutch is slipping. you should run 13.5-6 and with drag radials 13.3-4. At least thats what i ran with just exhaust and a shifter. and ran a 13.2 with the same setup with fats and skinnys

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 01:03 AM

Thank thats what I though it be mid to high 13's without radials so should I go with 3.73 gears or 4.10 gears!

White99stang · January 30th, 2007, 01:16 AM

oh my god here we go again, go to the 99-04 section and look at the stickys bro, and do some searching, 4.10 gears if not 4.30s. ihave 4.30s and love them.

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 01:37 AM

lol touchy arent we lol well hey I understand I just really wanted 2 know because some say the biggest difference depends on if your looking for on the freeway or from a dig on the track! but i check out the 99-04 page and I got an idea I dont have a turbo for boost! but unlike most people i try to max out the raw motor before throwing on the nos, s/c, blowers, and turbos thats why a lot of cars have problems putting too much power on a stock motor! ( actually this only applies to the GT models because mach 1's cobras and 5.0's have stout motors (although the cobra uses a 281 like the GT its a 32 valve doch gt is a 16 valve sohc) Thanks for the help!

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 01:45 AM

I do have one more question for you tho if you dont mind should I cut the stock springs and save the money or by lowering springs im not looking 2 slam it thats silly, but I got 18's and i want it 2 sit a lil lower for a stance!

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 01:59 AM

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orangeRcode · January 30th, 2007, 02:04 AM

The larger wheels are going to slow you down a bit. Welcome to MM. Have fun at the track.

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 02:16 AM

Thanx yeah i had the 5 spoke 17inch but they were so boring but lighter than my 18's so your right!

87foxbodylx · January 30th, 2007, 10:02 AM

and its nitrous not nos... NOS is a BRAND NAME.

White99stang · January 30th, 2007, 11:36 AM

just buy springs, its not good to cut springs, its just the cheaper way out.

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 12:14 PM

Thanx I'm quite aware of nos being a brand name lol thanx for the reminder tho!

Barrier · January 30th, 2007, 01:15 PM

1. Cobra motors are forged completely inside, whereas GT's only have the crank forged, and coupled with a lower compression ratio (8.5 to 1) than a GT motor (9.4 to 1) they do better standing up to with major FI than the stock 2vs. It has little or nothing to do with DOHC

2. Not only is cutting springs a bad idea, but you're going to want to get new aftermarket shocks and struts soon thereafter if not when you change out the springs as the stockers tend to get way too overpowered by the lower springs and fail easily.

Hope that helped your choices & welcome to MM

~Wes

White99stang · January 30th, 2007, 01:27 PM

actually you are way off base there buddy, learn your motors before you go running your mouth trying to make someone feel stupid which you just made yourself feel stupid. OK Barrier, listen up. Cobra motors are not completly forged inside, only the 03-04 cobra motors are completly forged. The 99,01 cobra motor only had a forged crank but crappy pistons and rods. The GT's have nothing forged there you nitwit, everything is stock steel crank, hyperthitic pistons and junk rods. The same goes for the Mach 1 motor, except they have a forged crank i think, don't quote me on that one, it is actually junk also, alot of problems with those motors and just a little bit of boost.

Barrier · January 30th, 2007, 01:37 PM

Wow people are really hostile here...

Last time I remembered we had forged cranks, but that may be my brain confusing the old cobra motors with our GTs or something, I dunno. However, I'm regretfully apologetic that I didn't specify the cobra motor that I was talking about because I figured people wouldn't make a big hooplah about it, but I see I was wrong on that note too.

You, however, are taking a minute mistake in my response and throwing it way out of proportion, making a reply that is nothing more than an agressive post towards me. It's got flame written all over it.

Tell me, who's worse?

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 02:06 PM

your right people tend 2 get a lil hostile here lol but I think its funny My comment was simply saying that a mach 1 has a lot of thing that are bigger than a GT motor wise! I said nothing about forged pistons or cranks tho but thanx for the tip on spring cutting our just order some!

WAVEBYE · January 30th, 2007, 02:48 PM

didn't you read the terms of service before you signed up? you must be a ASE cert. mechanic and have at least 3 years experience working on mustangs. damn,i hate having to deal with people that never worked at the ford assembly plant cuz you gotta explain everything to'em.

lol

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 03:06 PM

I Know and I am certified 2 work on n e thing from mustangs 2 tanks to humvee its called the U.S. army I got my certificate by way of aberdeen maryland ait! can u fix a bradley, 88, or a striker just 2 name a few! so please dont judge people and dont tell me everyone is certified on this forum lol!

(from ft knox ky to aberdeen maryland to ft benning ga, the road gets tougher)Kelley hill soilders!

WAVEBYE · January 30th, 2007, 03:26 PM

i was just messin with you,dude. i was being sarcastic.

dmachine22 · January 30th, 2007, 03:30 PM

My fault im sorry about that

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January 29th, 2007, 11:30 PM	#1
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	Never too it to the track yet! I have a 5spd GT 99 and I have bbk cai, bbk under drive pulleys, cheap racing chip, 75mm plenum and t/b, and full flowmaster exhaust system 40 series into dump mufflers with no cats, I know it depends on the driver when shifting but roughly what should that run at a track and how much of a difference would a stage one clutch and drag radials make?

January 29th, 2007, 11:52 PM	#2
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,718 iTrader: 0 reviews	a clutch will not make you faster, unless your stock clutch is slipping. you should run 13.5-6 and with drag radials 13.3-4. At least thats what i ran with just exhaust and a shifter. and ran a 13.2 with the same setup with fats and skinnys __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

January 30th, 2007, 01:16 AM	#4
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,718 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh my god here we go again, go to the 99-04 section and look at the stickys bro, and do some searching, 4.10 gears if not 4.30s. ihave 4.30s and love them. __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

January 30th, 2007, 02:04 AM	#8
orangeRcode Hardcore Enthusiast 11.21@123 -150 shot Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mustang/Yukon, OK Posts: 1,830 iTrader: 1 reviews	The larger wheels are going to slow you down a bit. Welcome to MM. Have fun at the track. __________________

January 30th, 2007, 11:36 AM	#11
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,718 iTrader: 0 reviews	just buy springs, its not good to cut springs, its just the cheaper way out. __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

January 30th, 2007, 01:03 AM	#3
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thank thats what I though it be mid to high 13's without radials so should I go with 3.73 gears or 4.10 gears!

January 30th, 2007, 01:37 AM	#5
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	lol touchy arent we lol well hey I understand I just really wanted 2 know because some say the biggest difference depends on if your looking for on the freeway or from a dig on the track! but i check out the 99-04 page and I got an idea I dont have a turbo for boost! but unlike most people i try to max out the raw motor before throwing on the nos, s/c, blowers, and turbos thats why a lot of cars have problems putting too much power on a stock motor! ( actually this only applies to the GT models because mach 1's cobras and 5.0's have stout motors (although the cobra uses a 281 like the GT its a 32 valve doch gt is a 16 valve sohc) Thanks for the help!

January 30th, 2007, 01:45 AM	#6
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	I do have one more question for you tho if you dont mind should I cut the stock springs and save the money or by lowering springs im not looking 2 slam it thats silly, but I got 18's and i want it 2 sit a lil lower for a stance!

January 30th, 2007, 01:59 AM	#7
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	[img] She is a beauty tho![/img]

January 30th, 2007, 02:16 AM	#9
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanx yeah i had the 5 spoke 17inch but they were so boring but lighter than my 18's so your right!

January 30th, 2007, 10:02 AM	#10
87foxbodylx Enthusiast 1987 Mustang LX 13.9@102.43 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ephrata PA Posts: 648 iTrader: 0 reviews	and its nitrous not nos... NOS is a BRAND NAME.

January 30th, 2007, 12:14 PM	#12
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanx I'm quite aware of nos being a brand name lol thanx for the reminder tho!

January 30th, 2007, 01:15 PM	#13
Barrier Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 60 iTrader: 0 reviews	1. Cobra motors are forged completely inside, whereas GT's only have the crank forged, and coupled with a lower compression ratio (8.5 to 1) than a GT motor (9.4 to 1) they do better standing up to with major FI than the stock 2vs. It has little or nothing to do with DOHC 2. Not only is cutting springs a bad idea, but you're going to want to get new aftermarket shocks and struts soon thereafter if not when you change out the springs as the stockers tend to get way too overpowered by the lower springs and fail easily. Hope that helped your choices & welcome to MM ~Wes __________________ 99 Dark Green Satin Mustang GT conv K&N CAI; MAC O/R H-Pipe; Flowmaster 40s; FRPP 13lb flywheel; Motive 3.90s; Diablosport tuner; Eibach Prokit springs; Tokico Dspec shocks/struts 13.805 @ 100.23, 1.97 60'

January 30th, 2007, 01:27 PM	#14
White99stang MM's nicest mod, :) Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Apex, NC Posts: 3,718 iTrader: 0 reviews	actually you are way off base there buddy, learn your motors before you go running your mouth trying to make someone feel stupid which you just made yourself feel stupid. OK Barrier, listen up. Cobra motors are not completly forged inside, only the 03-04 cobra motors are completly forged. The 99,01 cobra motor only had a forged crank but crappy pistons and rods. The GT's have nothing forged there you nitwit, everything is stock steel crank, hyperthitic pistons and junk rods. The same goes for the Mach 1 motor, except they have a forged crank i think, don't quote me on that one, it is actually junk also, alot of problems with those motors and just a little bit of boost. __________________ 06 Dodge MegaCab Diesel 455rwhp/815rwtq REAL TRUCKS DON'T USE SPARK PLUGS

January 30th, 2007, 01:37 PM	#15
Barrier Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 60 iTrader: 0 reviews	Wow people are really hostile here... Last time I remembered we had forged cranks, but that may be my brain confusing the old cobra motors with our GTs or something, I dunno. However, I'm regretfully apologetic that I didn't specify the cobra motor that I was talking about because I figured people wouldn't make a big hooplah about it, but I see I was wrong on that note too. You, however, are taking a minute mistake in my response and throwing it way out of proportion, making a reply that is nothing more than an agressive post towards me. It's got flame written all over it. Tell me, who's worse? __________________ 99 Dark Green Satin Mustang GT conv K&N CAI; MAC O/R H-Pipe; Flowmaster 40s; FRPP 13lb flywheel; Motive 3.90s; Diablosport tuner; Eibach Prokit springs; Tokico Dspec shocks/struts 13.805 @ 100.23, 1.97 60'

January 30th, 2007, 03:26 PM	#19
WAVEBYE Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mustang GT Twin Turbo 10.43 @ 139mph Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southaven,MS Posts: 1,471 iTrader: 0 reviews	i was just messin with you,dude. i was being sarcastic. __________________ Nobody gonna take my car Im gonna race it to the ground Nobody gonna beat my car Its gonna break the speed of sound Oooh its a killing machine Its got everything Like a driving power big fat tires And everything - Deep Purple

January 30th, 2007, 02:06 PM	#16
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	your right people tend 2 get a lil hostile here lol but I think its funny My comment was simply saying that a mach 1 has a lot of thing that are bigger than a GT motor wise! I said nothing about forged pistons or cranks tho but thanx for the tip on spring cutting our just order some!

January 30th, 2007, 02:48 PM	#17
WAVEBYE Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mustang GT Twin Turbo 10.43 @ 139mph Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Southaven,MS Posts: 1,471 iTrader: 0 reviews	didn't you read the terms of service before you signed up? you must be a ASE cert. mechanic and have at least 3 years experience working on mustangs. damn,i hate having to deal with people that never worked at the ford assembly plant cuz you gotta explain everything to'em. lol __________________ Nobody gonna take my car Im gonna race it to the ground Nobody gonna beat my car Its gonna break the speed of sound Oooh its a killing machine Its got everything Like a driving power big fat tires And everything - Deep Purple

January 30th, 2007, 03:06 PM	#18
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	I Know and I am certified 2 work on n e thing from mustangs 2 tanks to humvee its called the U.S. army I got my certificate by way of aberdeen maryland ait! can u fix a bradley, 88, or a striker just 2 name a few! so please dont judge people and dont tell me everyone is certified on this forum lol! (from ft knox ky to aberdeen maryland to ft benning ga, the road gets tougher)Kelley hill soilders! __________________ Unknown

January 30th, 2007, 03:30 PM	#20
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 Z28 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,200 iTrader: 0 reviews	My fault im sorry about that ! __________________ Unknown

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