best way to achieve 400+rwhp?

allblack96 · August 14th, 2009, 01:33 AM

Ill soon have around 10k maybe more to spend on my 96 mustang gt.
All i have now is full exhaust, intake, and well just average stuff.
It will still be a daily driver also for a while so i do not want anything to extreme. The engine i have now has about 200,000 miles so keep that in mind.
Any ideas you guys have i would be happy to hear.

MikeJones · August 14th, 2009, 01:38 AM

buy new block and rotating system, kenne bell supercharger. easy 400

allblack96 · August 14th, 2009, 01:42 AM

all that with cost of installation?

08blkgt500 · August 14th, 2009, 01:58 AM

kb supercharger

GTRACER88 · August 14th, 2009, 02:03 AM

Well define not crazy? What do you want out of it?

allblack96 · August 14th, 2009, 02:10 AM

well i want it to be okay on gas and be capable of being a daily driver.
but i also want about 400 to 450 hp

NO_PI_NO_POWER · August 14th, 2009, 03:46 AM

Boost on
a fresh PI motor, would be nice, some supercharger and turbo kits come with everything to make it work on
a stock motor. I didn't have my KB on a stock cammed motor, but it does make very drivable power, and I get around 20mpg
on the highway, cruising. One possible downside I don't think I've seen anyone mention,is
that it can make the motor run a bit warmer during some driving, mine does in town, I'm looking into a heat exchanger , and possibly radiator upgrade. I
'm sure someone will soon follow my post, saying you should leave the NPI heads on

allblack96 · August 14th, 2009, 10:35 AM

ok so PI motor and a supercharger im guessing would be my best bet.
thanks

allblack96 · August 14th, 2009, 10:37 AM

where is a good place to find a good PI engine?

Trick Tuners · August 14th, 2009, 11:16 AM

you can boost the npi and get 400. Or just port the npi heads.

allblack96 · August 14th, 2009, 11:37 AM

what about the 03 cobra swap?

Fluffy The Rhino · August 14th, 2009, 09:31 PM

New motor and a single turbo. You may also want to look at beefing up the rest of your car.

Justdoit04 · August 15th, 2009, 09:48 AM

yea with that power upgrade you're going to have to make sure the rest of your stang can handle it ... suspension upgrades ... sub frame connectors ... brake upgrade ... definately sit down and plan it out cost out everything ... with a motor at 200,000 I'd go ahead and get a new motor ... a basically stock sn95 engine isn't pushing to much hp to start with compared to its successors... engine upgrade is always the best cost/power ratio

hollagraphik · August 15th, 2009, 12:31 PM

get an 03/04 cobra swap and you will be right under 400hp and then you have a good base to build on. i would say for sure you need some engine work because 200k miles is a lot to throw boost to it. i would think you would have engine trouble shortly after adding a blower.

the misfit wolfie · August 15th, 2009, 04:45 PM

why not do the 5.4 swap. a nice set of heads, and cams. you should be somewhere around 400. or like others have said, do the termi swap.

86er · August 16th, 2009, 12:00 PM

Trickflow heads, stroker kit, good intake and cam set, long tubes and you will be pretty damn close on motor.

2001bullitt · August 23rd, 2009, 09:36 PM

low mileage 2v pi motor $400 hellion single turbo $6000=430rwhp and 500rwtq im sure $3600 should cover install...you will be happy great daily driver...

heres my stock 2v with a hellion 61mm turbo at the track and these were the worst times of the day...yes stock motor and a turbo....does have a built rear though and a nice clutch...it went deep into the 11s later that night

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mustanginky · August 23rd, 2009, 09:42 PM

i would do a terminator swap with a few dollars to spare.

don't forget though a 200k mile chassis might want some suspension work with a 400 hp combo.

2001bullitt · August 23rd, 2009, 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by mustanginky

i would do a terminator swap with a few dollars to spare.

don't forget though a 200k mile chassis might want some suspension work with a 400 hp combo.

he didnt ask about that...and thats not a big cost compared to the other stuff! he can get some used suspension as well im sure 3600 is a highball on labor!

teal89 · August 24th, 2009, 01:21 AM

Stroker Kit, Cam, NPI Head Porting, Lifters, Intake Manifold will get you where you want. Now I notice people leave the most important thing out and that's ..... TUNING!!!!!! So All of that I said and Tuning will land you well into the 400hp and waay less than $6,800 or 3/4 of your budget. Be sure to take around another grand and be sure the 400+hp can m\be transffered properly... Twin disc clutch set and aluminum driveshaft and go ahead and beef up the rear with a good ol FRPP 3.73's.

Then go z28, 350Z, Vette Hunting

August 14th, 2009, 01:33 AM	#1
allblack96 Newbie 1996 Mustang GT 14.8 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	best way to achieve 400+rwhp? Ill soon have around 10k maybe more to spend on my 96 mustang gt. All i have now is full exhaust, intake, and well just average stuff. It will still be a daily driver also for a while so i do not want anything to extreme. The engine i have now has about 200,000 miles so keep that in mind. Any ideas you guys have i would be happy to hear.

August 14th, 2009, 01:58 AM	#4
08blkgt500 AKA Greased-up Deaf Guy 2008 Shelby GT500 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Jose, CA/Denver, CO Posts: 9,486 iTrader: 0 reviews	kb supercharger __________________ MM Cobra Club #24

August 14th, 2009, 02:03 AM	#5
GTRACER88 Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2008 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,153 iTrader: 1 reviews	Well define not crazy? What do you want out of it? __________________ Super Slow 2011 Grabber blue V6...

August 14th, 2009, 03:46 AM	#7
NO_PI_NO_POWER Enthusiast 1997 Mustang GT 12.501@116.35 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 655 iTrader: 0 reviews	Boost on a fresh PI motor, would be nice, some supercharger and turbo kits come with everything to make it work on a stock motor. I didn't have my KB on a stock cammed motor, but it does make very drivable power, and I get around 20mpg on the highway, cruising. One possible downside I don't think I've seen anyone mention,is that it can make the motor run a bit warmer during some driving, mine does in town, I'm looking into a heat exchanger , and possibly radiator upgrade. I 'm sure someone will soon follow my post, saying you should leave the NPI heads on __________________ 1997 GT 1989 LX ~Dangerously Quick/Needs Battery Last edited by NO_PI_NO_POWER; August 14th, 2009 at 08:18 AM.

August 14th, 2009, 11:16 AM	#10
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,471 iTrader: 3 reviews	you can boost the npi and get 400. Or just port the npi heads. __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

August 14th, 2009, 01:38 AM	#2
MikeJones Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.7@103 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Stoon, Saskatchewan Posts: 2,833 iTrader: 0 reviews	buy new block and rotating system, kenne bell supercharger. easy 400

August 14th, 2009, 01:42 AM	#3
allblack96 Newbie 1996 Mustang GT 14.8 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	all that with cost of installation?

August 14th, 2009, 02:10 AM	#6
allblack96 Newbie 1996 Mustang GT 14.8 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	well i want it to be okay on gas and be capable of being a daily driver. but i also want about 400 to 450 hp

August 14th, 2009, 10:35 AM	#8
allblack96 Newbie 1996 Mustang GT 14.8 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	ok so PI motor and a supercharger im guessing would be my best bet. thanks

August 14th, 2009, 10:37 AM	#9
allblack96 Newbie 1996 Mustang GT 14.8 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	where is a good place to find a good PI engine?

August 14th, 2009, 11:37 AM	#11
allblack96 Newbie 1996 Mustang GT 14.8 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 6 iTrader: 0 reviews	what about the 03 cobra swap?

August 14th, 2009, 09:31 PM	#12
Fluffy The Rhino Bearer of Bad News I has mustang and legacy. Slower than my Ruger. Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: The Fuckening Posts: 2,392 iTrader: 0 reviews	New motor and a single turbo. You may also want to look at beefing up the rest of your car. __________________ ~MOD NUTSWINGER~ My Tongue Soothes Razorburn STOPSAYINGFAIL.COM EVERY FART IS A GAMBLE Just Think Of Me As A White Blood Cell.

August 15th, 2009, 09:48 AM	#13
Justdoit04 Regular 2003 Mustang GT Track Virgin Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Manassas,VA Posts: 371 iTrader: 3 reviews	yea with that power upgrade you're going to have to make sure the rest of your stang can handle it ... suspension upgrades ... sub frame connectors ... brake upgrade ... definately sit down and plan it out cost out everything ... with a motor at 200,000 I'd go ahead and get a new motor ... a basically stock sn95 engine isn't pushing to much hp to start with compared to its successors... engine upgrade is always the best cost/power ratio __________________ White Mustang Crew Founder "White Power!" as said by Dave Chappelle Safi is a liar ... Mods: Interior Matching Custom Corbeau CR1 Racing seats

August 15th, 2009, 12:31 PM	#14
hollagraphik Regular 2004 Mustang GT Shake ñ Bake! Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Chuck County FTW! Posts: 152 iTrader: 0 reviews	get an 03/04 cobra swap and you will be right under 400hp and then you have a good base to build on. i would say for sure you need some engine work because 200k miles is a lot to throw boost to it. i would think you would have engine trouble shortly after adding a blower. __________________ 40th anniversary GT - MGW, SCTX3 93oct, K&N Intake, MAC Prochamber, MAC Catback, March UDP, Mach 1 grille delete, 6k HIDs Future Mods: 03-04 Cobra!

August 15th, 2009, 04:45 PM	#15
the misfit wolfie Regular 1996 Mustang GT faster than the stealth Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: illinois Posts: 405 iTrader: 0 reviews	why not do the 5.4 swap. a nice set of heads, and cams. you should be somewhere around 400. or like others have said, do the termi swap. __________________ 1996 Mustang GT 5-speed sold.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VuRDQGk4k8 http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3340297

August 16th, 2009, 12:00 PM	#16
86er I Post Entirely Way Too Much Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 7,088 iTrader: 0 reviews	Trickflow heads, stroker kit, good intake and cam set, long tubes and you will be pretty damn close on motor. __________________ Just a truck 5.4 3v: 264hp 317ft lbs rock stock piecing together the next project faster than your first sexual experience

August 23rd, 2009, 09:42 PM	#18
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 3,957 iTrader: 2 reviews	i would do a terminator swap with a few dollars to spare. don't forget though a 200k mile chassis might want some suspension work with a 400 hp combo. __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

August 24th, 2009, 01:21 AM	#20
teal89 Enthusiast 89 Mustang Lx Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rockwall, Texas Posts: 527 iTrader: 0 reviews	Stroker Kit, Cam, NPI Head Porting, Lifters, Intake Manifold will get you where you want. Now I notice people leave the most important thing out and that's ..... TUNING!!!!!! So All of that I said and Tuning will land you well into the 400hp and waay less than $6,800 or 3/4 of your budget. Be sure to take around another grand and be sure the 400+hp can m\be transffered properly... Twin disc clutch set and aluminum driveshaft and go ahead and beef up the rear with a good ol FRPP 3.73's. Then go z28, 350Z, Vette Hunting __________________ 94-95 306, B-Cam, Off-brand BBK Like Headers, H-Pipe, 3.73's, Nitrous Wet Shot 175 Shot

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