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1998 Mustang GT
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: charlotte, NC
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TERRIBLE times at drag strip.....
So tonight i was really antsy about racing. i did some weight reduction to the car(bumper support, rear seat delete, trunk is gutted) i have some toyo proxes that do good on the street. and i was going to spray a 75 shot.
My previous best has been a 9.10 at 78 mph without an o/r h pipe with a 2.09 60ft. Tonight i had my exhaust and my tune back from sct and the tune for nitrous. 1sr run i planned on spraying it but i was low on nitrous and my bottle pressure was down to 850. i sprayed it anyway only to have the car die on the top end. i let out pretty easy and punched it only to spin my way to a 2.300 60" i didnt spray it until third gear but it pulled flat being the pressure of the bottle. The final time was a 9.518 at 82.099 mph with the 2.300 sixty my next run i shut off the nitrous and i did a good burn out. i turned the dial to setting 3 which is the performance tune. i rolled out to a ****ty 2.458 sixty foot crossing the line at 9.579 at 78.516 mph. what the hell is going wrong. i have all this suspension and i cant hook to save my life. i leave the line at about 1800 and pedal it but soon as i touch the gas it spins. I ran better before with my ****ty kumho's and no tune. i atleast got to 2.2 out of those. what should my car be at? im frustrated right now. m just pissed bc my friend has the same car as me almost.....he doesnt have the pi heads, but he does have the pi cams and intake and stock exhaust except flowmaster weldins and on a 100 shot on e/t slicks he cuts a 1.6 60 ft and goes 85 mph at 8.1 he also has the same gears as me 373's and he doesnt have near the suspension i do. ugh!!! im buying tires this week.......
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Full Pi swap, 87mm maf, 24# injectors,walboro 255, 373's,K & N Fipk, sct chip, steeda k-member, udp, tokikos 5 way F/R lots of suspension upgrades
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1998 Mustang GT
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: charlotte, NC
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my mod list sits below guys on the mustang dynometer before the exhaust the car put down 243 rwhp and 287 rwtq i have done weight reduction as well what should my car be running with good driving?
SCT 2 6600 series 4 bank eliminater chip w/ switch cable (nitrous tune setting, performace tune setting 99 GT Performance Heads 99 GT performance Intake 99 GT cams 24# injectors 255lph walboro racing fuel pump Steeda underdrive pully Steeda Auto-timing adjuster Pro-M 87mm MAF K&N air filter Optima Red top High performance battery Bosch platinum +4 plugs Brendel racing 8mm sparkplug wires Steeda K- member Steeda strut tower brace Steeda full length welded sub frame connecters Steeda bumpstear kit Maximum Motorsport caster/camber Maximum Motorsport front and rear sway bars Maximum Motorsports adjustable Lower control arms Steeda coil overs in front with steeda pro springs Steeda offset bushings 40 series flowmaster mufflers MAC 2 1/2 inch off road h-pipe Tokico Illumina 5 way adjustable shocks/struts (front and rear) Eibach sportline springs in rear Steeda X2 ball joints Steeda G-trac bar Steeda tri-axe short throw shifter 3:73 Gears Cobra replica headlight kit w/ Clear Corners Steeda brushed aluminum door sill plates Hawk performance racing brake pads Tr Motorsport Typhoon Rims( 18x9 in front, 18x10 in rear) now a graphite color 100 shot nx express wet kit(adjustable shots
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Full Pi swap, 87mm maf, 24# injectors,walboro 255, 373's,K & N Fipk, sct chip, steeda k-member, udp, tokikos 5 way F/R lots of suspension upgrades
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2004 Mustang Mach 1
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maybe you need more track time, not doubtin you as a driver, but some people drive better then others, how many times ya draged before?
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03 Cobra
11.76 @ 116
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SWFL
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The subframe connectors and control arms will help stiffen the car up and help elliminate deflection, but the lowering springs and the MM swaybar (front) will make the car transfer LESS weigh then even the stock parts. I did not see the type and size tire you are running. Most 18's are not very dragstrip friendly either. There are always tradeoffs when setting a car up. If you want you car to really handle good, it will usually not get a good 60 ft at the track. If you want optimum dragstrip performance, handling will not be the best. There are way's to set the car up to handle O.K (close to stock or maybe slightly better) and work very well at the track but it still requires compromises and a couple changes to set it up for the track (tire swap, adjust shocks and struts, remove front sway bar).
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1998 Mustang GT
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thats where im confused at i have these tokico 5 way illuminas. i keep hearing mixed reviews on where to set them for drag. Should i go soft up front and soft in the back or stiff in the back. Im ditching the eibach sportlines and going eibach drag springs, i bought a set of weld pro stars today with brand new mickey thompson et's on them im going to go try again. And this is my first rear wheel drive car ive had at the track. im very familiar with drag racing but ive always had awd talons. Launching an awd is much easier to do.....
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Full Pi swap, 87mm maf, 24# injectors,walboro 255, 373's,K & N Fipk, sct chip, steeda k-member, udp, tokikos 5 way F/R lots of suspension upgrades
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03 Cobra
11.76 @ 116
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Anyway, you want the fronts soft and the rears stiff to stop the rear from squatting and also rebounding back up into the fender well. Did you order just the rear eibach drag springs? They are O.K, but somewhat of a waste of money. Do you know the spring rate of your front steeda coil overs? If thier not thier drag springs, Get a set of drag Qa1 coil over springs along with fox v8 rears (or cut sn95 v8 rears) and you should be good to go there. Which ET tires did you get (drag radials, DOT slicks, or slicks), what size?
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needs more seat time imo. i was able to 2.1 60' my lightning on 20" chrome wheels and crappy nitto nt-404 tires. and the lightning is basically bone stock. you just have to realize that you tires aren't gonna hold and rooooolllll into the throttle. your 60' is definetly killing your times.
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2004 Mustang GT
13.28@103.78
Join Date: Jun 2007
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1) Drag radials are a must at the dragstrip
2) Practice will help alot 3) I noticed I get better traction during the day than at night for some reason. Maybe it's because the sun is keeping the surface warmer, I dunno. Try taking it out to the strip during a sunny day that's not too hot and see if you get better results. |
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1998 Mustang GT
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Location: charlotte, NC
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haha well thanks but i have also rolled this car on some nittos 555 to a 2.08 60ft before but with the kumhos they just dont hold. i just purchased a new set of tires for my car. see below
no more spinnage
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2003 Mustang GT
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what rim and tire size is that in the back???
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1998 Mustang GT
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Location: charlotte, NC
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weld racing pro stars. 275/60/15 with 5.5 inch back spacing on mickey thompson et streets
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2006 GT Coupe
12.562@108.74 1.819 60ft
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This you first time at the track with the et streets? It took me a few tries to learn with my Nitto DR's. The best way I found is launch at about 4500 and slip the clutch out. With street tires I was leaving at 1500-1800. I know little different car but you get the idea. If the only thing that changed is the tires from you last trip, then you just need to adjust your technique. The ET Street should bite better than my Nittos and I run 1.8's 60ft.
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2004 Mustang GT
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That's the ticket!
You should be able to launch hard now! |
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1998 Mustang GT
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thanks guys!!! if the rain ever ever ever stops ill be going out to the strip to try out my new tires haha. It seems everything thursday(drag nights) god makes it rain haha.
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1984 Mustang GT Convertab
13.99@106.47MPH
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Those new M/T's should help you hook!
Dude, your lucky, my car is stuck in the garage and the strip is closed for the season! we have 4" of snow right now!
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1998 Mustang GT
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geez ive only seen snow ONCE in my life! thats when i had my AWD Talon i did doughnuts it was great haha and our track doesnt ever close
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1998 Mustang GT
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ok guys went to the track and all i can say is wow i love these tires....All motor i went 8.49 at 80 mph with 1.74 60" i still need help on the nitrous thoough as i only went 8.30 at 87 mph. i got to get through first a little better but my car is just soooooo slooooow on the nitrous tune. of course when i hit the nitrous its game over haha. well im going back thursday and im doing cams and longtubes this month so im excited
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