[MoneyMike02GT]

what do you guys think it would take for a basically stock gt to outrun a stock mach1?
i have 3.73s and a CAI. what else would i need to beat the mach1 because the owner is talkin some serious shit.

[TheUNZippee!]

Depends on what year GT, & what year Mach 1, and what engine Mach 1 if you mean an older one.

[FastBack71]

honestly, i beleive that o/r and catback with a good cai and 4.10's and a nice tune, it would be such a drivers race but id give it to the gt with those minor mods. maybe some tires too

[Casper98GT]

I have 2 buddys. One with a 04 Mach and another with a 03 Gt. 04 Mach is stock. 03 Gt has exhaust, DR's, 4.10's, and a predator tune. The Mach ran a 13.6 and the Gt's best was a 13.8. He was close, but the mach won everytime.

[powersrj]

yeah every mach 1 i have seen has never ran below 13.5 stock. Anyone else seen for there own eyes a lower time?

[orangeRcode]

Originally Posted by powersrj yeah every mach 1 i have seen has never ran below 13.5 stock. Anyone else seen for there own eyes a lower time?

Nope, anywhere from 13.6 - 13.9 around here. Never seen the 12.9x times claimed by some for stock Machs. Ofcourse, that was 3 years ago. There are no stock ones around here much anymore.

[tommyd04gt]

All depends on driver. I've heads up, at the track, beaten 03/04 cobras, Mach 1's, and an 07 Shelby GT just by pullin the hole shot and having the other driver overdrive the car and go up in smoke. Most times they put a whoopin on me, but, there;s always driver error to give ya the win


04 GT, CAI, SLP catback, 75mm TB, 75MM plenum, lowered, and subframes.

[Casper98GT]

Yikes, they must have really messed up. Because youre fairly stock ( 14.0's )i would think even if burning up first a 03/04 cobra and 07 shelby would still beable to bog second and come back to beat you. But alot of people dont know what they are doing the day after they buy their mustang and think they can go rip it up at the track.

[joojoo84]

i know my cuz had moderate bolt-ons on his 04 gt with a throttle body, cai, exhaust, rear end, complete exhaust, no headers, and pullies and a retune and he put down something like 305whp and like 360 ft/lbs of torque . . .. those numbers are pretty close to mach numbers . . .

IT REALLY DOES DEPEND ON THE DRIVER THOUGH - PUT A GOOD ASS DRIVER IN A GT AND A MODERATE DRIVER IN THE MACH AND THE GT WILL TAKE HIM ABOUT 75% OF THE TIME...

[acmillr]

Originally Posted by joojoo84 i know my cuz had moderate bolt-ons on his 04 gt with a throttle body, cai, exhaust, rear end, complete exhaust, no headers, and pullies and a retune and he put down something like 305whp and like 360 ft/lbs of torque ...........

Bullshit---If he put down those numbers- he had more in that engine than he is telling you. Plus 305 RWHP is a good bit more than a stock Mach1 has, if I'm not mistaken. Sounds like he is on the gas to have torque #'s that big.

[joojoo84]

no, i swear - no bullshit - thats what i even thought when he told me - then he showed me the dyno sheet . . .

what are stock torque numbers for a gt?

[joojoo84]

correction - he did have a cam and headers (he only had the headers on for a week (i didnt know about them)... and he also told me on the dyno that run he was running way too lean . . .

he eventually took the cam out b/c the idle was too erratic and i think he's taken the car back to pretty much stock

[machfelon]

03 04 Mach 1 > 03 04 GT

03 04 Mach 1 > 05 06 07 GT (real close)

Still think my mach was faster than my new car. Not by much , but is weighs less and felt stronger

[orangeRcode]

Originally Posted by machfelon 03 04 Mach 1 > 03 04 GT 03 04 Mach 1 > 05 06 07 GT (real close) Still think my mach was faster than my new car. Not by much , but is weighs less and felt stronger

I agree with your assessment. I have a buddy with an 05 (5 speed car) with the FRPP racing catalog thrown at it(Handling and performance packs). He's the F&I Manager at a local stealership. It is quick on the street. We have "paced" each other numerous times and it is very close. However, at the track I beat him pretty badly. I won't be able to say that much longer. He has a Vert Fox with a built 5.0. We have been finishing up the fabbing on twins. So he will soon get to put the hurt on my NA Mach.

I will say that the 05-07 seem to respond better with a dyno-tune than the Machs do. There is a lot of potental with the 3Vs.

[joojoo84]

i agree . . .

mach > 99-07 gt

pretty close with newer gt's, but i thought they were lighter....

how about this though?

mach 1 or 96-01 cobra?

[03 R Code]

Mach's still faster... Just cause.

The 01's had some problems with producing the claimed 320hp. Not all of them but some.

[Casper98GT]

The 01's had some problems with producing the claimed 320hp. Not all of them but some.

Ford took care of that with a PI recall.

[orangeRcode]

01 Cobra and Mach are pretty close. That Cobra has the IRS which hurts it on the launch. The Mach benefits from newer head design from the Terminators. I have a buddy with an 01 Cobra. He as done a solid axle swap with built rear. I am still faster.

In all seriousness, the 01 Cobra and Mach 1 is a close driver's race.

[joojoo84]

i would REALLY like to see a mach and 96-01 cobra line up . . . i do think the mach would win - but it would def. be a close race....

the thing is - its very hard to find those cars in their stock form - usually rear ends, and small bolt ons are always in use . . .

[03 R Code]

I'd say if you found one now in stock form, then the owner has no intentions of ever racing it. Most people who get a Cobra or Mach can be classified into one of two groups. 1 is the guy who mods his car, wether lightly or extenseviley, and has fun driving it. 2 is the guy who buys it, puts it into a garage and leaves it bone stock, and takes it out 10-15 times a year for a local cruise in or show, and usually has no interest in modding...