Long tube headers or shortys

garydahl · April 5th, 2007, 11:50 AM

Hello all
I have a 07 GT automatic and I am going to install a new set of headers! I don't know if I should go long tube or shortys?
The quistions I have, is it ok to remove the cats?
Is the car going to be too loud with long tube?
Who makes the best long tube headers
Or should I stay with the shortys?
I have the classic shacker and a roush axle back pipes.
And I'm haveing a set of 410s installed.

new 5.0 · April 5th, 2007, 11:55 AM

Welcome to the site. You can search this and get all the answers you are lookin for.

I would go with long tubes with H-pipe.No cats

barksdaleammo · April 5th, 2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by new 5.0

Welcome to the site. You can search this and get all the answers you are lookin for.

I would go with long tubes with H-pipe.No cats

+1 with Borla Exhaust.

orangeRcode · April 5th, 2007, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by barksdaleammo

Originally Posted by new 5.0

Welcome to the site. You can search this and get all the answers you are lookin for.

I would go with long tubes with H-pipe.No cats

+1 with Borla Exhaust.

I am running this setup except I have o/r x. Love it, really opened up the car.

Welcome to MM.

ReverendDexter · April 5th, 2007, 01:43 PM

shorties will be easier to install, and if your car ever has to pass Cali emissions, you're screwed with long-tubes. Of course, you're talking about taking out the cats, so that's probably not an issue.

(I suggest long-tubes as well, but nobody was giving any reason to not go with them, thought I'd play Devil's Advocate)

bransdaman78 · April 5th, 2007, 02:58 PM

Long tubes are the only ones that will make a noticable difference while still n/a, shorties will help with FI, but again LT's will show them up with FI also

04GTAMPA · April 6th, 2007, 10:51 AM

long tubes will give you a 8-12 hp advantage over shorties, specially on your 3v engine. You will need to re-tune to get the most ouf of them since you'll be a little leaner then.

2007calispecial · April 8th, 2007, 01:42 PM

the best set up of bolt ons i have ever seen is,

Long tube headers
Off road x pipe
Borla cat back
c&l cold air intake
Sct bama tunes
i tihnk he got 30 rwhp

2007calispecial · April 8th, 2007, 01:46 PM

the best set up of bolt ons i have ever seen is,

Long tube headers
Off road x pipe
Borla cat back
c&l cold air intake
Sct bama tunes
i tihnk he got 30 rwhp.. and then 4.10's, electric water pump, pullies, drag radials, springs, and with the automatic you could probobly hit 12.6 with just that stuff if not less than that

random oops

bransdaman78 · April 8th, 2007, 09:09 PM

ehhh, doubt that

dshep · April 8th, 2007, 10:59 PM

too loud hahahahaha

dshep · April 9th, 2007, 12:21 AM

like any catback will bolt up to a stock h pipe or any midpipe for that matter. If you swap out your stock h pipe to an (same length) aftermarket x or h you will not be able to upgrade to LTs with out modifying your stock or aftermarket midpipe. The stock exhaust manifolds are same the length as shorty headers. So if you upgrade to long tubes you will need to either get a shorty mid pipe or modify your stock length ones. but if you cant decide between shortys or long tubes just get a cat back for now

garydahl · April 9th, 2007, 10:36 AM

I think that I might go with the shorty's and C&L intake and the 4.10s to try to keep my cost down. I would like to get long tube headers but it sounds like its going to cost me about double the cost! I still will have to buy a tuner also.

MeZ · April 9th, 2007, 04:15 PM

If you can't afford them right now .. I'd just wait and not do them .. shorties are gonna be pointless in the scheme of things .. you might as well wait .. save .. and do long tubes ...

bransdaman78 · April 9th, 2007, 04:17 PM

yep yep - not to mention install price!

matrixpuba · April 9th, 2007, 04:54 PM

talk about loud. my install this weekend includes long tubes, or x pipe, borla stingers.
man i cant wait.

SteedaYellowGT · April 11th, 2007, 09:13 PM

I vote Shorties because less of a pain.. and because i have them

XPIPE is great too.

garydahl · April 11th, 2007, 10:57 PM

what did you notice with the X-pipe?
Sound or power?
I don't know if I should go with the X-pipe or not.
Is the X-pipe worth the money

April 5th, 2007, 11:50 AM	#1
garydahl Blood, Sweat and Gears... Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,726 iTrader: 0 reviews	Long tube headers or shortys Hello all I have a 07 GT automatic and I am going to install a new set of headers! I don't know if I should go long tube or shortys? The quistions I have, is it ok to remove the cats? Is the car going to be too loud with long tube? Who makes the best long tube headers Or should I stay with the shortys? I have the classic shacker and a roush axle back pipes. And I'm haveing a set of 410s installed.

April 5th, 2007, 01:43 PM	#5
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,233 iTrader: 0 reviews	shorties will be easier to install, and if your car ever has to pass Cali emissions, you're screwed with long-tubes. Of course, you're talking about taking out the cats, so that's probably not an issue. (I suggest long-tubes as well, but nobody was giving any reason to not go with them, thought I'd play Devil's Advocate) __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\ Buy my Bronco, special deal for MM folks

April 8th, 2007, 09:09 PM	#10
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	ehhh, doubt that __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 8th, 2007, 10:59 PM	#11
dshep Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 64 iTrader: 0 reviews	too loud hahahahaha __________________ 2001MustangGTCoupeYelloww/SatinBlack*3.73Gears AuburnLSDBBKColdAirIntakeBBKCaster/CamberPlates EibachMACCatbackMACO/RHpipeSportlineSprings SteedaTimingAdjusterSteedaUpperADJ.ControlArms SteedaShocksSteedaShortThrowShifter SuperiorAxles

April 9th, 2007, 12:21 AM	#12
dshep Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 64 iTrader: 0 reviews	like any catback will bolt up to a stock h pipe or any midpipe for that matter. If you swap out your stock h pipe to an (same length) aftermarket x or h you will not be able to upgrade to LTs with out modifying your stock or aftermarket midpipe. The stock exhaust manifolds are same the length as shorty headers. So if you upgrade to long tubes you will need to either get a shorty mid pipe or modify your stock length ones. but if you cant decide between shortys or long tubes just get a cat back for now __________________ 2001MustangGTCoupeYelloww/SatinBlack*3.73Gears AuburnLSDBBKColdAirIntakeBBKCaster/CamberPlates EibachMACCatbackMACO/RHpipeSportlineSprings SteedaTimingAdjusterSteedaUpperADJ.ControlArms SteedaShocksSteedaShortThrowShifter SuperiorAxles

April 5th, 2007, 11:55 AM	#2
new 5.0 Regular Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: miami Posts: 182 iTrader: 0 reviews	Welcome to the site. You can search this and get all the answers you are lookin for. I would go with long tubes with H-pipe.No cats

April 5th, 2007, 02:58 PM	#6
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	Long tubes are the only ones that will make a noticable difference while still n/a, shorties will help with FI, but again LT's will show them up with FI also

April 6th, 2007, 10:51 AM	#7
04GTAMPA Hardcore Enthusiast 2001 Mustang SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Riverview, FL Posts: 2,751 iTrader: 1 reviews	long tubes will give you a 8-12 hp advantage over shorties, specially on your 3v engine. You will need to re-tune to get the most ouf of them since you'll be a little leaner then.

April 9th, 2007, 10:36 AM	#13
garydahl Blood, Sweat and Gears... Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,726 iTrader: 0 reviews	I think that I might go with the shorty's and C&L intake and the 4.10s to try to keep my cost down. I would like to get long tube headers but it sounds like its going to cost me about double the cost! I still will have to buy a tuner also.

April 9th, 2007, 04:15 PM	#14
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 967 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you can't afford them right now .. I'd just wait and not do them .. shorties are gonna be pointless in the scheme of things .. you might as well wait .. save .. and do long tubes ... __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

April 9th, 2007, 04:17 PM	#15
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	yep yep - not to mention install price! __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 9th, 2007, 04:54 PM	#16
matrixpuba Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: tennessee Posts: 2,364 iTrader: 0 reviews	talk about loud. my install this weekend includes long tubes, or x pipe, borla stingers. man i cant wait. __________________

April 11th, 2007, 09:13 PM	#17
SteedaYellowGT Newbie Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 12 iTrader: 0 reviews	Question I vote Shorties because less of a pain.. and because i have them XPIPE is great too.

April 11th, 2007, 10:57 PM	#18
garydahl Blood, Sweat and Gears... Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 1,726 iTrader: 0 reviews	what did you notice with the X-pipe? Sound or power? I don't know if I should go with the X-pipe or not. Is the X-pipe worth the money

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