600HP+ Terminator never dyno tuned??

Nateman15 · March 13th, 2011, 02:06 PM

A couple nights ago I ran across an 03/04 Cobra at sonic that had a Kenne Bell of unknown size. He said he was running 18 pounds of boost. Ok, thats fine and dandy. But then he goes on and tells me that he has never had it dyno tuned and had no idea what kind of hp it makes. All he said was he guesses it is over 600, which is no doubt true. He said he was running a tune that came from kenne bell.

Is this normal? Surely it isn't safe. I just thought it was very odd to be running such high numbers and had never been on the rollers.

y2k02 · March 13th, 2011, 02:11 PM

One can guess all day long and just never know.
KB is good at what they do. No way I would run it hard without knowing what the a/f and timing was!

JTs03v6 · March 13th, 2011, 02:17 PM

The kb tune more than likelly has it pig rich with very little timing. If I were to invest that much money, I'd invest a lil more and maximize the setup by having it dyno tuned.

Nateman15 · March 13th, 2011, 02:34 PM

Exactly. Why not spend an extra 500 bucks and do it right? I think it is very valuable insurance to know your engine is running right. Especially when over 500hp.

Scott2001GT · March 14th, 2011, 01:14 AM

my car wont be dyno tuned either. Some tuners street tune.

SAGE · March 16th, 2011, 08:23 PM

Guess it is def possible, sounds like a bad idea for sure though.

y2k02 · March 16th, 2011, 09:52 PM

Street and track tuning= BEST TUNE

mustanginky · March 16th, 2011, 09:52 PM

if you can street tune, that's just fine as well. as long as you know what you're doing and mind the a/f ratio it should be good. kenne bell does put out a tune for the cars, but who knows whether or not you're sitting on a time bomb?

AzSonicSnake · March 17th, 2011, 01:24 AM

sounds believable. but me personally, if i am laying out that much money, its getting tuned. i guess my money is just more valuable to me than others is to them.

Scott2001GT · March 17th, 2011, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by y2k02

Street and track tuning= BEST TUNE

it really is...i am excited to see how the tune is compared to my tune when I was procharged to the new tuner and the street tune turbo.

Trick Tuners · March 17th, 2011, 10:29 AM

I email tuned a couple high hp cobras. It can be done if the operator is up to it. A wideband is a must!

NastyFX4 · March 21st, 2011, 04:54 PM

Maybe he just had it remote tuned or even running a mail order tune.

dcook_14 · March 21st, 2011, 05:02 PM

He might have been able to work with KB to send them datalogs and have them refine the tune just like an email tuner would. Did you happen to see if he had a wideband?

March 13th, 2011, 02:06 PM	#1
Nateman15 Regular 2004 Mustang GT 13.37@101.22 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 404 iTrader: 0 reviews	600HP+ Terminator never dyno tuned?? A couple nights ago I ran across an 03/04 Cobra at sonic that had a Kenne Bell of unknown size. He said he was running 18 pounds of boost. Ok, thats fine and dandy. But then he goes on and tells me that he has never had it dyno tuned and had no idea what kind of hp it makes. All he said was he guesses it is over 600, which is no doubt true. He said he was running a tune that came from kenne bell. Is this normal? Surely it isn't safe. I just thought it was very odd to be running such high numbers and had never been on the rollers. __________________ Kansas State University Mechanical Engineering Air Force ROTC Full Ride Scholarship Delta Sigma Phi GT...garaged

March 13th, 2011, 02:11 PM	#2
y2k02 Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT 9.91@133 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,306 iTrader: 1 reviews	One can guess all day long and just never know. KB is good at what they do. No way I would run it hard without knowing what the a/f and timing was! __________________ 2002 GT PI heads Twin 60mm turbos Th400 6.34@114 1/8 9.99@137 1/4 http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/DSCF5654.jpg http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...2gt/IMG060.jpg

March 13th, 2011, 02:17 PM	#3
JTs03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 mustang 7.48x1.56=11.67 Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: East Coast Posts: 2,318 iTrader: 0 reviews	The kb tune more than likelly has it pig rich with very little timing. If I were to invest that much money, I'd invest a lil more and maximize the setup by having it dyno tuned. __________________ New combo: Forged SC short Block,280cfm heads, Precision 6262 turbo, cx 31x12x3 fmic http://photobucket.com/JTsTurboBuild http://youtube.com/user/JTsStang

March 13th, 2011, 02:34 PM	#4
Nateman15 Regular 2004 Mustang GT 13.37@101.22 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Manhattan, Kansas Posts: 404 iTrader: 0 reviews	Exactly. Why not spend an extra 500 bucks and do it right? I think it is very valuable insurance to know your engine is running right. Especially when over 500hp. __________________ Kansas State University Mechanical Engineering Air Force ROTC Full Ride Scholarship Delta Sigma Phi GT...garaged

March 14th, 2011, 01:14 AM	#5
Scott2001GT BYAHHHH! 2001 Mustang GT 13.874 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 14,804 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 3 reviews	my car wont be dyno tuned either. Some tuners street tune. __________________ Precision Turbo\|TurboSmart\|TeamZ\|Strange\|Hellion\|BBK\|SCT\|Edge Converters\|Fairbanks\|CG Fabrications\|Treadstone

March 16th, 2011, 08:23 PM	#6
SAGE Regular 1995 GT/TC7 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Chattanooga, TN Posts: 124 iTrader: 1 reviews	Guess it is def possible, sounds like a bad idea for sure though.

March 16th, 2011, 09:52 PM	#7
y2k02 Hardcore Enthusiast 02 Mustang GT 9.91@133 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,306 iTrader: 1 reviews	Street and track tuning= BEST TUNE __________________ 2002 GT PI heads Twin 60mm turbos Th400 6.34@114 1/8 9.99@137 1/4 http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...t/DSCF5654.jpg http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...2gt/IMG060.jpg

March 16th, 2011, 09:52 PM	#8
mustanginky MM Fanatic 2000 gt Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: La grange, KY Posts: 4,260 iTrader: 2 reviews	if you can street tune, that's just fine as well. as long as you know what you're doing and mind the a/f ratio it should be good. kenne bell does put out a tune for the cars, but who knows whether or not you're sitting on a time bomb? __________________ Procharged 2000 5 Speed BAB GT, built motor, blower cams, speedy dyno tune 412 hp, 450 rw tq HARDCORE CREW BRIGHT ATLANTIC BLUE CREW #1 MEMBER

March 17th, 2011, 01:24 AM	#9
AzSonicSnake 2009 ROTY 2003 SVT Cobra 11.07@127 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: North Phoenix,AZ Posts: 5,640 iTrader: 1 reviews	sounds believable. but me personally, if i am laying out that much money, its getting tuned. i guess my money is just more valuable to me than others is to them. __________________ MM Cobra Club #25 My Autolog Profile

March 17th, 2011, 10:29 AM	#11
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,467 iTrader: 3 reviews	I email tuned a couple high hp cobras. It can be done if the operator is up to it. A wideband is a must! __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

March 21st, 2011, 04:54 PM	#12
NastyFX4 Made in U.S.A. 2011 F150 FX4 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Florida Posts: 16,010 iTrader: 9 reviews	Maybe he just had it remote tuned or even running a mail order tune. __________________

March 21st, 2011, 05:02 PM	#13
dcook_14 Banned 2004 Mustang GT 12.35@114.08 w/ 1.88 60' Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Waterloo, IA Posts: 7,015 Blog Entries: 2 iTrader: 7 reviews	He might have been able to work with KB to send them datalogs and have them refine the tune just like an email tuner would. Did you happen to see if he had a wideband? __________________ Do the Right Thing, Cook. ~Zip.

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