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Old December 21st, 2011, 07:31 PM   #1
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I've done my searching but i just want some opinions. I hear a lot of good things from On3's Turbo kit but not a lot of people running them. Youtube has some vids but not a lot. And I read the thread that ModularSpeed wrote up. Just want some of your opinions. I hear its a decent kit but its on the cheaper side. Includes a 3'' intercooler with all piping (hot and cold). I will need a new k member and MAF and injectors. They sell all of that. All in All it should run $2500. Decent numbers too; 440 rwhp and 496lbs of torque on 10 psi. My bottom end will only handle around 8-9 psi though. So whats your input?

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Old December 21st, 2011, 09:51 PM   #2
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alot of people bash the kit and say its trash because its cheap, but it seems all those people have never actually had experience with the kit. ive read alot of good about it from people who actually have it. the only problem ive heard is that it comes with a shitty turbo, but you can pay $200? i think extra to upgrade. im planning to hopefully buy this kit next summer.
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Old December 22nd, 2011, 01:01 PM   #3
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Its very cheep compared to others, especially since it comes intercooled..

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Old December 25th, 2011, 12:29 PM   #4
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Im going with the on3 kit and there are plenty of these threads if you search it on this site. Im going with 42# lightning injectors, 290lph fuel pump, '05 slot style maf, the on3 kit with the 67mm turbo (+$400). All that's running around 3k. That's for the new forward facing kit and I already have a UPR k-member. I was also told that the oil line and the clamps the provide arn't that good and should be swapped out for different ones upon install. Then you have to add install and tune, meaning its not cheap after all said and done. I set aside $4300, and am hoping to get it all done for right around that, if not a little less.
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Old December 25th, 2011, 10:48 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by kyle2002stang! View Post
alot of people bash the kit and say its trash because its cheap, but it seems all those people have never actually had experience with the kit. ive read alot of good about it from people who actually have it.
Yeah, I have had the kit a while and am happy with it. I am looking to upgrade my turbo to a bigger unit but for the most part, it works just as good as the other kits. If you get on the turboforums.com they will constantly bash them. They all think if you don't buy the $6000 dollar kits your buying junk. Well, I just think that they are jealous that they spent the amount of money that they did for there setup and now finding out that they could have bought it for half...

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Awesome kit. I love it. Only problem I have is that it goes over the control arms. If you dont plan on slamming your car you'll be fine.

V band clamps are ok but not the best quality.

I made 460 whp and 500 wtq on a mild safe tune. With the old kit. Check out my build thread for more info. Link in my signature.
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Originally Posted by Mustang46 View Post
Yeah, I have had the kit a while and am happy with it. I am looking to upgrade my turbo to a bigger unit but for the most part, it works just as good as the other kits. If you get on the turboforums.com they will constantly bash them. They all think if you don't buy the $6000 dollar kits your buying junk. Well, I just think that they are jealous that they spent the amount of money that they did for there setup and now finding out that they could have bought it for half...

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There's a bit more to it than that on TTF. Part of it comes from how it appears that several components in the ON3 kit were reverse engineered from a kit made by one of TTF's sponsoring vendors (who made them in the USA), and sent the copy off to China so they could make a copy more cheaply. Nothing illegal or even all that uncommon in the aftermarket parts world, but it really irked the "Buy American" crowd.

Next, somebody had started an ON3 build thread a couple years ago, back when ON3 was a sponsor, and one of the parts was either defective or failed shortly after install - I can't remember which. The guy in the thread complained to ON3 and asked for a warranty replacement. It seems that ON3 had just stopped selling that part (apparently they had a rather high failure rate) - and so they asked the installer for an extra charge to upgrade to the new version. This really angered the customer. Then the owner of ON3 posted in the thread trying to defend his decision. Predictably, a bunch of the "Buy American" crowd took the opportunity to jump on the owner right then. The resulting flame war ended up resulting in ON3 being banned from The Turbo Forums, and left a lot of the members holding a grudge.

So, I'd say that the reason a lot of the people on The Turbo Forums have a beef with ON3 is quite understandable - but it isn't because of the quality of the kits so much as with how ON3 had behaved on the forum. I don't really have a dog in the fight myself (I'd be glad to sell you a plug and play engine management package to handle your new turbo kit regardless of where you got it ), but wanted to explain the story there.
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Thanks for the rundown. I didn't know all that. I had posted on the site about the kit and the people blew up on me. So now it makes total sense. Chad the owner didn't seem to like to do replacements. I live local and picked up all my parts and I was shorted a couple V-Band Clamps and they sent them right out. I got them the next day. So they did take care of me. Just like anything else, once you sell something to someone you don't know how they are going to be treating the product.... so it's always a tough call. But as a company, they have to take care of customers, their isn't really any excuse.

I didn't like the pipes going over the A-arms so I reworked the entire hotside to just come up under the K-member. The pipes are kindof low but not really that bad. I am thinking of reworking it again. I am always looking for ways for improvment.
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IMO on3 is an awesome kit! Many people bash it like said but everyone I have heard of thats used them love it and make some outstanding numbers with it
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i love my on3 kit i had to do a lot of customization to get it to work with my 97GT but nothing a cutting wheel and welder couldnt fix. you wont have any issue with them.
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Old January 8th, 2012, 10:11 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by Matt Cramer View Post
There's a bit more to it than that on TTF. Part of it comes from how it appears that several components in the ON3 kit were reverse engineered from a kit made by one of TTF's sponsoring vendors (who made them in the USA), and sent the copy off to China so they could make a copy more cheaply. Nothing illegal or even all that uncommon in the aftermarket parts world, but it really irked the "Buy American" crowd.

Next, somebody had started an ON3 build thread a couple years ago, back when ON3 was a sponsor, and one of the parts was either defective or failed shortly after install - I can't remember which. The guy in the thread complained to ON3 and asked for a warranty replacement. It seems that ON3 had just stopped selling that part (apparently they had a rather high failure rate) - and so they asked the installer for an extra charge to upgrade to the new version. This really angered the customer. Then the owner of ON3 posted in the thread trying to defend his decision. Predictably, a bunch of the "Buy American" crowd took the opportunity to jump on the owner right then. The resulting flame war ended up resulting in ON3 being banned from The Turbo Forums, and left a lot of the members holding a grudge.

So, I'd say that the reason a lot of the people on The Turbo Forums have a beef with ON3 is quite understandable - but it isn't because of the quality of the kits so much as with how ON3 had behaved on the forum. I don't really have a dog in the fight myself (I'd be glad to sell you a plug and play engine management package to handle your new turbo kit regardless of where you got it ), but wanted to explain the story there.

Thanks for the history. I didn't know that.
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Old January 10th, 2012, 06:07 AM   #12
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Originally Posted by deedub97GT View Post
i love my on3 kit i had to do a lot of customization to get it to work with my 96GT but nothing a cutting wheel and welder couldnt fix. you wont have any issue with them.


What had to be done to make it work on the '96GT's ?

I haven't looked to deeply at the On3 kits but I thought they had a kit for the '96-'98 GT's.
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