traction difference 96-98 & 99-04

SWEET2KSTANG · July 11th, 2007, 02:32 AM

a friend of mine had a 98 mustang gt with a few mods and 3.73's. he traded the car for a 97 cobra and i did a couple things on it. both of his mustangs just flat hook, i dont get it. both are lowered sitting on nitto 555's, with no other kind of suspension or chasis mod. i spin bad in my car, my car dont even know what it means to make second gear useful. i have upper and lower control arms, subframe connectors, and have had a few different gear combo's in the car to try and aid this. what makes them so much better?

ujslost · July 11th, 2007, 07:14 PM

maybe he just aint got the power to turn em over like you do and it just seems like he just flat hooks.

MustangMatt96GT · July 11th, 2007, 07:30 PM

we have the junk NPI motors, but a better frame and suspension! lol sucker!

In all seriousness I think that you just make to much power!

G.T. Rags · July 11th, 2007, 08:03 PM

are cars weigh a little more too, and well, not to try and start anything, but maybe he's just the better driver

SWEET2KSTANG · July 12th, 2007, 01:36 AM

j/k not to start shit or sound like i'm a bad ass, but i have yet to be out driven around here. i drove both of his cars and it is a night and day difference. i couldnt hook that good when my car was stock. his cars actually lifts in the ass when getting mashed on. his cobra has cai, p&p t/b, o/r x, and slp cat back. i dumped it at 4500 rpm and it just snaped my neck and took off. the same at 5k, and power shifting through the gears.

stanglifemike · July 12th, 2007, 04:13 PM

He must have something done to launch like that. If I did I would spin until I let out.

stanglifemike · July 12th, 2007, 04:14 PM

Oh and mine is lowered with some 555's too. and heavy 18x10 chrome rims

SWEET2KSTANG · July 12th, 2007, 09:26 PM

nope, me and his dad do all the work on his cars. if your car is spinning on those same runs, then maybe he just got lucky with his cars. the lift was real noticable after the bbk lowering springs were installed on his cars. his car sticks and your car would spin on a hard launch?

mustangmanic · July 12th, 2007, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by stanglifemike

Oh and mine is lowered with some 555's too. and heavy 18x10 chrome rims

are those american racing rebel's i see? haha

G.T. Rags · July 13th, 2007, 12:36 AM

u ever think maybe the work was done by the previous owner?

SWEET2KSTANG · July 13th, 2007, 12:51 AM

we know the previous owners, they bought the car new. the cars were bone stock, that is the only way my friend will buy his cars. he knew the owners and knew what kind of condition they were in and what maintenience was done and how often.

G.T. Rags · July 13th, 2007, 12:58 AM

ur friends a smart man, finding a mustang that has had the crap beaten out of her is a rare thing. Does ur friend have anything in his trunk pushing his rear down? Thats may cause him to hook so well, with no sus mods.

SWEET2KSTANG · July 13th, 2007, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

finding a mustang that has had the crap beaten out of her is a rare thing.

really??? he doesnt really have anything in his car, just the basic stuff like a t-shirt and cd's. when i drove it i actually had the car gutted to clean the whole interior. it just strange to me that his cars act like that and seems no one elses does.

shudahadav8 · July 13th, 2007, 09:28 AM

There is a traction difference between the two, I've seen it also but have never figured out why. Both car are the same wheel base, but the 99 and newer cars are on a stiffer chassis. Yes Ford refined the chasis when they did the face lift in 99. Once you get your car to hook better you'll see that it feels more stable going down the track and goes down the track straighter.

G.T. Rags · July 13th, 2007, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

ur friends a smart man, finding a mustang that has had the crap beaten out of her is a rare thing. Does ur friend have anything in his trunk pushing his rear down? Thats may cause him to hook so well, with no sus mods.

sorry, it should have wrote, finding a mustang who hasn't had the crap beaten out of her is a rare thing..........my bad

SWEET2KSTANG · July 13th, 2007, 10:07 PM

i just had to point that out

i knew what you ment, just joking around.

Originally Posted by shudahadav8

There is a traction difference between the two, I've seen it also but have never figured out why.

thank you, i am not the only one to see this. his chasis is pretty damn stiff, i found that out when i was jacking it up. yes my car feels better and a lot more stable.

MustangMatt96GT · July 13th, 2007, 11:39 PM

But our cars are superior because they hook! NPI= Hooking Chassis PI= Non Hooking Chassis!

stanglifemike · July 14th, 2007, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by mustangmanic

Originally Posted by stanglifemike

Oh and mine is lowered with some 555's too. and heavy 18x10 chrome rims

are those american racing rebel's i see? haha

Yup

Convertible 5.0 · July 15th, 2007, 12:50 AM

what about 97 cobra convertibles.. do they hook as well?

sorrowfulkiller · July 15th, 2007, 04:20 AM

I've noticed this too... my car hooks quite well and its got the pi swap done to it yet its a 96. The only time I ever have issues is turning at low speeds with the gas around halfway down, pulls out the back end a bit.

July 11th, 2007, 02:32 AM	#1
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	traction difference 96-98 & 99-04 a friend of mine had a 98 mustang gt with a few mods and 3.73's. he traded the car for a 97 cobra and i did a couple things on it. both of his mustangs just flat hook, i dont get it. both are lowered sitting on nitto 555's, with no other kind of suspension or chasis mod. i spin bad in my car, my car dont even know what it means to make second gear useful. i have upper and lower control arms, subframe connectors, and have had a few different gear combo's in the car to try and aid this. what makes them so much better? __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

July 11th, 2007, 07:14 PM	#2
ujslost MM Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Albertville, AL Posts: 3,920 Blog Entries: 1 iTrader: 1 reviews	maybe he just aint got the power to turn em over like you do and it just seems like he just flat hooks. __________________ 1986 Mustang GT t-top time piece!

July 11th, 2007, 07:30 PM	#3
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,171 iTrader: 3 reviews	we have the junk NPI motors, but a better frame and suspension! lol sucker! In all seriousness I think that you just make to much power! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

July 12th, 2007, 01:36 AM	#5
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	j/k not to start shit or sound like i'm a bad ass, but i have yet to be out driven around here. i drove both of his cars and it is a night and day difference. i couldnt hook that good when my car was stock. his cars actually lifts in the ass when getting mashed on. his cobra has cai, p&p t/b, o/r x, and slp cat back. i dumped it at 4500 rpm and it just snaped my neck and took off. the same at 5k, and power shifting through the gears. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

July 12th, 2007, 04:13 PM	#6
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	He must have something done to launch like that. If I did I would spin until I let out. __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

July 12th, 2007, 04:14 PM	#7
stanglifemike IBEATU 06 GT, 98 GT, & 93 Notch Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 5,937 iTrader: 0 reviews	Oh and mine is lowered with some 555's too. and heavy 18x10 chrome rims __________________ 98 GT: some stuff 06 GT: more stuff 93 Notch: 4 cyl at birth, now 5.0 drivetrain and stock exterior and interior= True Sleeper Paxton/Vortech Crew Member #3 FRPP's #1 Dealer Injected Engineering BMR Suspension

July 12th, 2007, 09:26 PM	#8
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	nope, me and his dad do all the work on his cars. if your car is spinning on those same runs, then maybe he just got lucky with his cars. the lift was real noticable after the bbk lowering springs were installed on his cars. his car sticks and your car would spin on a hard launch? __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

July 13th, 2007, 12:51 AM	#11
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,430 iTrader: 8 reviews	we know the previous owners, they bought the car new. the cars were bone stock, that is the only way my friend will buy his cars. he knew the owners and knew what kind of condition they were in and what maintenience was done and how often. __________________ project warhorse under construction being built by MP2 Performance

July 13th, 2007, 09:28 AM	#14
shudahadav8 Newbie Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Blythewood, SC Posts: 46 iTrader: 0 reviews	There is a traction difference between the two, I've seen it also but have never figured out why. Both car are the same wheel base, but the 99 and newer cars are on a stiffer chassis. Yes Ford refined the chasis when they did the face lift in 99. Once you get your car to hook better you'll see that it feels more stable going down the track and goes down the track straighter.

July 13th, 2007, 11:39 PM	#17
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,171 iTrader: 3 reviews	But our cars are superior because they hook! NPI= Hooking Chassis PI= Non Hooking Chassis! __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

July 15th, 2007, 12:50 AM	#19
Convertible 5.0 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 40 iTrader: 0 reviews	what about 97 cobra convertibles.. do they hook as well? __________________ Chris - Previous cars: 87 White GT, 92 Green Blown Notch, 94 GT Convertible, 97 White Cobra. Now: 97 Green Cobra Convertible. mods I want to change my username - pm me

July 15th, 2007, 04:20 AM	#20
sorrowfulkiller Regular Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 188 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've noticed this too... my car hooks quite well and its got the pi swap done to it yet its a 96. The only time I ever have issues is turning at low speeds with the gas around halfway down, pulls out the back end a bit.

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