Going Blown....

G.T. Rags · October 13th, 2007, 05:48 PM

I've come to the point in my life where i realized there's no way in hell I'm going to be able to get the power i want with all motor, so i've decided to go blown.

Right now my car has a PI intake and 4.10's. I plan on installing PI cams in the car, uprgrading my coil packs, plugs and wires, and if the SuperCharger application works with it, and accufab TB/Plenum combo. I have a catted x pipe and cat back in the works as well.

Now I'm not looking for numbers, guesstimates, or being told to just get nitrous. I only want to run 7-9 psi, and want to push about 350 to the wheels. I know thats possible with a good tune and my future mods.

Now what I need from you guys is a good cheap blower. I'm gonna do the work with a friend, and I will most likely already have the car dyno tuned before hand, so to retune it won't cost that much. I really don't want to spend more then 3k on a kit........and would prefer it to atleast have the fuel pump.......i can worry about injectors. I also would like the kit work with my PI intake manifold and maybe even an acuffab combo.

would i need to buy the kit for the 99+ if my car is 66% PI?

ChrisJ · October 13th, 2007, 07:42 PM

Unless you are running the 99+ engine front cover then no you dont want the 99+ blower...

Check around
www.modularpowerhouse.com
www.modulardepot.com

And other sites looking for used set-ups...I promise you that you can find a great deal on a blower set-up...I know someone that got their whole blower set-up (injectors, blower, boost pipe, MAF, fuel pump, all brackets, all lines and such) for $2600 shipped...You jsut ahve to look around...

Garhfer · October 13th, 2007, 09:31 PM

you can get a brand new s-trim off vortech's website (the tuner kit) for like 2300 it doesn't come with a fuel pump and all but since you're willing to pay 3k I'm sure you can get one for 700 somewhere... but if I was to buy a blower I'd either go Novi 2000 which is gonna be expensive but it'll last ya a long time, and if it's just to have fun I'd go kennebell because I think it'd be a really fun s/c for road play but you know centri's will rule the 1/4 mile....

G.T. Rags · October 13th, 2007, 10:05 PM

that first link didn't work Chris... it says it cant find products

vortech has been what i've been looking at, but was curious as to what will work with what. Xmas is rolling around, and I can make some huge money around then, and I don't want to accidentally by a blower that negates my current and future mods.

Also, is my rebuilt stock 28 spline with 4.10's going to be able to handle the constant extra stress?

Garhfer · October 13th, 2007, 10:13 PM

not full on slicks, I'd go 31 spline axles to be safe on drag radials... do ya have subframe connectors also? what kind of mods do you plan on running?

G.T. Rags · October 13th, 2007, 10:22 PM

I'm installing PI cams as soon as i get my hands on them...

catted x pipe and cat back tb plenum

and an SCT dyno tune

no subframes or control arms, but i'll be puting them in with the blower

trev0006 · October 13th, 2007, 10:44 PM

Take your time installing if its your first time.

Garhfer · October 13th, 2007, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

I'm installing PI cams as soon as i get my hands on them...

catted x pipe and cat back tb plenum

and an SCT dyno tune

no subframes or control arms, but i'll be puting them in with the blower

stock pi cams? Why not go with something more aggressive if you're gonna go through the hassle anyways?

G.T. Rags · October 13th, 2007, 10:56 PM

because to put something in more aggressive it'l require a lot of work. From what I've been told I'm not going to gain that much more power then i would using stock PI cams. The 15 extra horsepower isn't worth the 1000 bux it's gonna cost

Garhfer · October 13th, 2007, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

because to put something in more aggressive it'l require a lot of work. From what I've been told I'm not going to gain that much more power then i would using stock PI cams. The 15 extra horsepower isn't worth the 1000 bux it's gonna cost

1000 bux? you don't do the work yourself? if you're getting the supercharger soon then why not put the cams and the supercharger in yourself get it towed or trailered to a shop and then get it dynotuned and be set? I don't see how it wouldn't give ya more power then a stock pi cam... and if you ever put in better heads it'll really have a nice increase.

G.T. Rags · October 13th, 2007, 11:11 PM

in order to put cams in the car we need to change the valve springs. cams ussualyy run around 5-600. That right there is around 8-900 bux. And i was told not to expect more then 20rwhp, the same numbers u could expect with PI cams.

Garhfer · October 13th, 2007, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop

in order to put cams in the car we need to change the valve springs. cams ussualyy run around 5-600. That right there is around 8-900 bux. And i was told not to expect more then 20rwhp, the same numbers u could expect with PI cams.

why would people buy aftermarket cams if stock is the best then? lol, those gains are for a naturally aspirated car, you put a supercharger on it, it should be like double... to get the full effect of the cams you have to change your heads for the best increase but I still would rather have a mean loping car then just a regular one, but that's just me.

G.T. Rags · October 14th, 2007, 12:19 AM

u misunderstood, npi aftermarket cams only net results similiar to that of stock PI cams. in order to put a aftermarket PI cam in the car, it's gonna involve doing something more money and time then I'm prepared to sacrifice for miinumal gains

GTNorm · October 14th, 2007, 10:13 AM

A vortech may be cheap but damn that whistle. Make sure you hear one before you buy it. They are loud as hell and don't wanna be kept secret by any means.

MustangMatt96GT · October 14th, 2007, 01:48 PM

Go with a novi if you have the money bro, but if not i would say a vortec would work.

Blower Head · October 14th, 2007, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by GTNorm

A vortech may be cheap but damn that whistle. Make sure you hear one before you buy it. They are loud as hell and don't wanna be kept secret by any means.

I have a vortech with an aftercooler running a 3.1" pulley on my 96 GT convertable and you can hardly hear the whine. On the other hand my Expedition, also running the vortech w/aftercooler and a 2.95" pulley has a very pronounced whine.
Craig

G.T. Rags · October 14th, 2007, 04:24 PM

dude.......if im gonna go out and put a supercharger on my car I'm going to want to here the whistle.

I got nothing to hide.

My cars not for street racing or track use really. Its for peace of mind.

Dawgfude03GT · October 14th, 2007, 04:50 PM

KB! KB! KB! KB! KB! IMO

G.T. Rags · October 14th, 2007, 04:55 PM

nut with the KB i stand to lose my PI intake, dont I?

Garhfer · October 14th, 2007, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Blower Head

Originally Posted by GTNorm

A vortech may be cheap but damn that whistle. Make sure you hear one before you buy it. They are loud as hell and don't wanna be kept secret by any means.

I have a vortech with an aftercooler running a 3.1" pulley on my 96 GT convertable and you can hardly hear the whine. On the other hand my Expedition, also running the vortech w/aftercooler and a 2.95" pulley has a very pronounced whine.
Craig

My v1 s-trim is loud, I can hear it in the house while it's outside just idling away everybody tells me it sounds like a jet taking off.

October 13th, 2007, 07:42 PM	#2
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	Unless you are running the 99+ engine front cover then no you dont want the 99+ blower... Check around www.modularpowerhouse.com www.modulardepot.com And other sites looking for used set-ups...I promise you that you can find a great deal on a blower set-up...I know someone that got their whole blower set-up (injectors, blower, boost pipe, MAF, fuel pump, all brackets, all lines and such) for $2600 shipped...You jsut ahve to look around... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

October 13th, 2007, 09:31 PM	#3
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,790 iTrader: 0 reviews	you can get a brand new s-trim off vortech's website (the tuner kit) for like 2300 it doesn't come with a fuel pump and all but since you're willing to pay 3k I'm sure you can get one for 700 somewhere... but if I was to buy a blower I'd either go Novi 2000 which is gonna be expensive but it'll last ya a long time, and if it's just to have fun I'd go kennebell because I think it'd be a really fun s/c for road play but you know centri's will rule the 1/4 mile.... __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

October 13th, 2007, 10:13 PM	#5
Garhfer Hardcore Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Conv. Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Edgewater, FL Posts: 1,790 iTrader: 0 reviews	not full on slicks, I'd go 31 spline axles to be safe on drag radials... do ya have subframe connectors also? what kind of mods do you plan on running? __________________ 2004 GT Boosted by Vortech

October 13th, 2007, 10:44 PM	#7
trev0006 Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 184 iTrader: 0 reviews	Take your time installing if its your first time. __________________ Ford and other cars video collection

October 14th, 2007, 10:13 AM	#14
GTNorm Enthusiast Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 511 iTrader: 0 reviews	A vortech may be cheap but damn that whistle. Make sure you hear one before you buy it. They are loud as hell and don't wanna be kept secret by any means. __________________ A man with experience is never at the mercy of a man with a theory.

October 14th, 2007, 01:48 PM	#15
MustangMatt96GT Proud American 1996 Mustang GT 10.76 @ 122 with d/a of 8365 ft Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Lakewood, CO Posts: 10,167 iTrader: 3 reviews	Go with a novi if you have the money bro, but if not i would say a vortec would work. __________________ RIP Travis Billings Special Thanks to: Andrews Racing Transmissions Baseline Suspensions Blown Small Block Ford with a hole in the block. 9.5 Dart Block 400 CI being saved for. Just because you can fuck a cactus doesn't mean you should. Never Lift Racecars

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