Supercharger & Turbocharger

Fox-DR1FTer · August 13th, 2006, 04:22 AM

i was just wondering if its possible to have a twin turbo and a supercharger, let alone install one turbo with a super? and is there anyway to install a blow off valve to a supercharged stang? what would the effect be?

stangliter04 · August 13th, 2006, 06:55 AM

yes you can supercharged and turbo a car....
http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...c296e45939.htm

that is a ION redline.... I dont think I have ever seen it done on a stang but I'm sure you could do it ... but it would be a tuners nightmare!!!

as far as the BOV on a supersharged car yes you can do it but you have to have a different kind of MAF a (blow threw).... so you dont vent metered air.

ChrisJ · August 13th, 2006, 11:17 AM

IMHO go with a Twin turbo set-up or a suprcharger set-up...Unless you are a tuning god...

itschristorres8 · August 29th, 2006, 08:42 PM

one or the other, u can do both but its pointless and very harmful for the car. either get good turbos or a supercharger. no point really in getting both

99mustang232 · August 29th, 2006, 10:26 PM

Originally Posted by stangliter04

I dont think I have ever seen it done on a stang but I'm sure you could do it ....

i have a MMFF mag where they tested out a bunch of configurations on a 4.6, i'm sure everyone would like to read so i will try to scan it.

ChrisJ · August 29th, 2006, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by 99mustang232

Originally Posted by stangliter04

I dont think I have ever seen it done on a stang but I'm sure you could do it ....

i have a MMFF mag where they tested out a bunch of configurations on a 4.6, i'm sure everyone would like to read so i will try to scan it.

Sweet...Sounds great...

itschristorres8 · August 31st, 2006, 12:56 PM

i'd still say getting both is a horrible idea. i can imagine the wear n tear it'll have on the car. and i cant imagine getting the big of a change in hp. turbo is guna help much more when it kicks in, but the supercharger is better off the line...but not for long. i'd get a turbo but b4 that i'd get plenty of bolt on's so the car doesnt take as long for the turbo to kick.
the evo VIII has horrible turbo lag, on top gear it raced a 1.6 or 2L car from "top" or fifth gear on a 1.7 mile road and it lost...
getting both turbo and supercharger is actually i nightmare. my also ask me if it can be done and i tell them no just so they dont get that idea of doing it.

drgnracin72 · August 31st, 2006, 01:05 PM

why would it have any more wear and tear on the car then just running one or the other? it wouldnt!

Darrell · August 31st, 2006, 07:02 PM

Why would you want both? Put a turbo on it and be done with it. There is no reason to have a supercharger and turbo or turbos other than cosmetic apperance.

gills99stang · September 15th, 2006, 02:27 PM

Help me! I can't decide if I want a turbocharger or a supercharger!!

I'm leaning towards supercharging the stang, with maybe a Novi 2000 or a Procharger D-1SC. To be honest, I don't know crap about what turbos are out there, I just know the basics of what a turbocharger is. I've been doing a lot of reading online, checking out a lot of turbo vs. super articles.. some biased opinions, some unbiased. They both seem to have their pros and cons.... but in the end, I want what would be ideally best for the setup I already have.

READ: I don't want to start a turbo vs. super debate!

Cricket · September 15th, 2006, 05:23 PM

Both do have pros and cons, but if you want the easier and cheaper way go supercharger. If you want the more efficient, but more of a hassle way take your stab at turbos.

Dreamer514 · September 19th, 2007, 12:30 AM

the supercharger would give you all low end power and mid range the turbo would filp flop mid high I want to do the same thing like th eother said a turners nightmare, I curious about the turbo making supercharger lose performance in low rpm and would the turbos performance decrease from the supercharger at high rpm Will it take more power than it adds

drgnracin72 · September 19th, 2007, 12:43 AM

turbos make great torqu down low. do some research. turbos are the wya to go. turbo and superchagrer on same motor would be a waste of time and money

TennesseeMustangPerf · September 19th, 2007, 05:27 PM

I run a blower a lot more consistant than turbos... I have talked to several racers who have run both and they all seem to feel the same way. Blowers are usually a colder charge than turbos too. If you piggyback the turbo and then the supercharger, then you are limiting your boost to that of the blower, plus you are pressurizing the compressor intake causing unnecessary stress on the supercharger.

FluffyTheRhino · September 20th, 2007, 03:42 AM

S/C is more consistent because it's always on. Turbos boost.

Turbo in the longrun will save some engine life if you aren't getting on it all the time.

67/07 · September 20th, 2007, 12:26 PM

I guess that means my engine is going to have a short life :wink
I run a turbo. If I were to do it over I'd go blower

1TITAN · October 28th, 2007, 10:52 PM

just get the snail style supercharger, it produces good boost through the a wide rpm range, thats what i X2 want for my 4.6 (but id also go deer huntin with a rocket launcher if i was able to)

Garhfer · October 29th, 2007, 02:15 AM

Originally Posted by 1TITAN

just get the snail style supercharger, it produces good boost through the a wide rpm range, thats what i X2 want for my 4.6 (but id also go deer huntin with a rocket launcher if i was able to)

What in the hell are you talking about? I assume a "snail style" is a centri and a rocket launcher is what? a kb or a turbo?? huh?

DSG04GT · October 29th, 2007, 02:44 PM

He means centri, and deer hunting with a rocket launcher is referring to overkill.

DSG04GT · October 29th, 2007, 02:46 PM

I'd say go with a Procharger D1SC, thats what I'm aiming for. Twin turbo would be best for an 03-04 Cobra.

August 13th, 2006, 04:22 AM	#1
Fox-DR1FTer Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: 916 Posts: 2	Supercharger & Turbocharger i was just wondering if its possible to have a twin turbo and a supercharger, let alone install one turbo with a super? and is there anyway to install a blow off valve to a supercharged stang? what would the effect be?

August 13th, 2006, 11:17 AM	#3
ChrisJ MM Ninjas! 2002 Mustang GT SLOW Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Shepherdsville, Kentucky Posts: 15,257	IMHO go with a Twin turbo set-up or a suprcharger set-up...Unless you are a tuning god... __________________ My Junk www.myspace.com/cjobe

August 29th, 2006, 08:42 PM	#4
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 n proud 13.1@107mph 2.1-60' Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 13,845	one or the other, u can do both but its pointless and very harmful for the car. either get good turbos or a supercharger. no point really in getting both __________________ 390rwhp V6 mustang stock bottom end

August 31st, 2006, 12:56 PM	#7
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 n proud 13.1@107mph 2.1-60' Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 13,845	i'd still say getting both is a horrible idea. i can imagine the wear n tear it'll have on the car. and i cant imagine getting the big of a change in hp. turbo is guna help much more when it kicks in, but the supercharger is better off the line...but not for long. i'd get a turbo but b4 that i'd get plenty of bolt on's so the car doesnt take as long for the turbo to kick. the evo VIII has horrible turbo lag, on top gear it raced a 1.6 or 2L car from "top" or fifth gear on a 1.7 mile road and it lost... getting both turbo and supercharger is actually i nightmare. my also ask me if it can be done and i tell them no just so they dont get that idea of doing it. __________________ 390rwhp V6 mustang stock bottom end

August 31st, 2006, 07:02 PM	#9
Darrell MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 6,449	Why would you want both? Put a turbo on it and be done with it. There is no reason to have a supercharger and turbo or turbos other than cosmetic apperance. __________________ Racing in memory of Dave Bandt 11/19/69 - 3/23/08 "he's traded his wheels for wings" Professor of Natural Aspiration Thanks to: Artie at Trick Flow, Dave at Team Z Motorsports, Brian at Total Engine Airflow and Harold at Furo Racecraft

August 13th, 2006, 06:55 AM	#2
stangliter04 Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 756	yes you can supercharged and turbo a car.... http://videos.streetfire.net/search/...c296e45939.htm that is a ION redline.... I dont think I have ever seen it done on a stang but I'm sure you could do it ... but it would be a tuners nightmare!!! as far as the BOV on a supersharged car yes you can do it but you have to have a different kind of MAF a (blow threw).... so you dont vent metered air.

September 15th, 2006, 02:27 PM	#10
gills99stang Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT 13.4 @ 100 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 2,543	Help me! I can't decide if I want a turbocharger or a supercharger!! I'm leaning towards supercharging the stang, with maybe a Novi 2000 or a Procharger D-1SC. To be honest, I don't know crap about what turbos are out there, I just know the basics of what a turbocharger is. I've been doing a lot of reading online, checking out a lot of turbo vs. super articles.. some biased opinions, some unbiased. They both seem to have their pros and cons.... but in the end, I want what would be ideally best for the setup I already have. READ: I don't want to start a turbo vs. super debate! __________________ Brendan '99 Mustang GT [318 rwhp N/A] For Sale: 2003 Boyd Coddington / Roush California Roadster http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...-roadster.html

September 19th, 2007, 12:30 AM	#12
Dreamer514 Look Ma! My First Post! Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 1	Probable but logical the supercharger would give you all low end power and mid range the turbo would filp flop mid high I want to do the same thing like th eother said a turners nightmare, I curious about the turbo making supercharger lose performance in low rpm and would the turbos performance decrease from the supercharger at high rpm Will it take more power than it adds

September 19th, 2007, 05:27 PM	#14
TennesseeMustangPerf Regular Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 73	I run a blower a lot more consistant than turbos... I have talked to several racers who have run both and they all seem to feel the same way. Blowers are usually a colder charge than turbos too. If you piggyback the turbo and then the supercharger, then you are limiting your boost to that of the blower, plus you are pressurizing the compressor intake causing unnecessary stress on the supercharger.

September 20th, 2007, 03:42 AM	#15
FluffyTheRhino Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Montgomery, Alabammer Posts: 51	S/C is more consistent because it's always on. Turbos boost. Turbo in the longrun will save some engine life if you aren't getting on it all the time. __________________ http://nightofthecow.com/machsig15.jpg 2004 Mach1, Black M/T - Born on: 03/06/2004 MODS: K&N, Kooks LTs - Ceramic Coated, Kooks Catted X, Borla Stingers, PHP Intake Spacer, MGW Orange Handle

September 20th, 2007, 12:26 PM	#16
67/07 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 75	I guess that means my engine is going to have a short life :wink I run a turbo. If I were to do it over I'd go blower

October 28th, 2007, 10:52 PM	#17
1TITAN Regular Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 55	just get the snail style supercharger, it produces good boost through the a wide rpm range, thats what i X2 want for my 4.6 (but id also go deer huntin with a rocket launcher if i was able to) __________________ destroy in the turns, then obliterate on the straightaway 01 GT with cold air intake and 70mm throttle body, and a superchips tuner. best of 14.14 @97mph 60ft 2.16

October 29th, 2007, 02:44 PM	#19
DSG04GT Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 185	He means centri, and deer hunting with a rocket launcher is referring to overkill. __________________ DSG 40th Anniversary 2004 Mustang GT K&N RAI, 75mm TB, C&L plenum, MAC O/R H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chamber catback, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, Ford Racing 3.73 gears, Ford Racing Aluminum Driveshaft, 1-inch rear wheel spacers, Sniper Tuned!

October 29th, 2007, 02:46 PM	#20
DSG04GT Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 185	I'd say go with a Procharger D1SC, thats what I'm aiming for. Twin turbo would be best for an 03-04 Cobra. __________________ DSG 40th Anniversary 2004 Mustang GT K&N RAI, 75mm TB, C&L plenum, MAC O/R H-pipe, Flowmaster 2 chamber catback, Steeda Tri-Ax shifter, Ford Racing 3.73 gears, Ford Racing Aluminum Driveshaft, 1-inch rear wheel spacers, Sniper Tuned!

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Supercharger & Turbocharger

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