Cold Air Intakes

gills99stang · December 1st, 2007, 02:03 PM

Something I've been pondering for a while... why don't high performance cars, such as the GT500, come stock with a cold air intake?

Steeda for example offers one and claims an increase of 12 hp. So why wouldn't Ford slap a cold air intake on there themselves? It's not like it's that expensive of a part.

HMUSN · December 1st, 2007, 03:59 PM

they do come with cold air intakes.
why do you think you only see little gains when going with an after market part.

TheBusher · December 1st, 2007, 04:07 PM

+1 12 HP on top of 500+ hp... you'll never notice the difference

rk_2000_Z/28 · December 1st, 2007, 07:23 PM

Yup, HMUSN is right. But 9 times out of 10 the stock air intake is very restrictive, usually to keep road noise down because not everyone that buys a car like a Mustang wants balls out speed and noisy exhuast, sometimes they just want a nice comfortable car that is quick and cool to cruise around in. But for people like us that want to get every horsepower available, they make less restrictive air intakes, exhaust pipes, throttle bodies, etc.

96GtGoodz · December 1st, 2007, 07:39 PM

+1

SWEET2KSTANG · December 1st, 2007, 09:15 PM

it also leaves the aftermarket wide open to the mustangs. that is one thing nice about the ford's, aftermarket is wide open.

Drick · December 1st, 2007, 10:50 PM

If you already have that kind of numbers buy it

mattstang · December 1st, 2007, 11:15 PM

emissions plays a role as well.
not all are smog legal.
and it keeps companies going so that their will be entusiasts for the mustang.

07stanggt · December 2nd, 2007, 08:22 AM

Technically every car made now has a cold air intake. The after market ones are just suppose to be better

. Less restrictive filters and so forth. By definition a cold air intake, back in the day was just not the stupid breather that sat on top of the carb which was right on top of the engine which was about the hottest place on the planet to get air from.

mixedbreed02gt · December 15th, 2007, 10:58 AM

the stock air boxes on the 99-04's are pretty efficient...there's not a whole lot to be gained by putting an aftermarket one on.

if you remove the air silencer, you'll let a little more air in, and you might like it a little better too.

I just stuck a MAC Straight shot on mine, and the only thing i really noticed was the throttle response is a little better, but that's about it.

00vabchgt · December 15th, 2007, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by mixedbreed02gt

the stock air boxes on the 99-04's are pretty efficient...there's not a whole lot to be gained by putting an aftermarket one on.

if you remove the air silencer, you'll let a little more air in, and you might like it a little better too.

I just stuck a MAC Straight shot on mine, and the only thing i really noticed was the throttle response is a little better, but that's about it.

i beg to differ. i gained about 9 hp and 12 ft lbs tq when i put my JLT on...

mixedbreed02gt · December 15th, 2007, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by 00vabchgt

i beg to differ. i gained about 9 hp and 12 ft lbs tq when i put my JLT on...

i beg to differ...you re-gained 9 - 12 hp.

00vabchgt · December 15th, 2007, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by mixedbreed02gt

i beg to differ...you re-gained 9 - 12 hp.

i had the car dyno'd before and after. i didn't "re-gain" shit...

mixedbreed02gt · December 15th, 2007, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by 00vabchgt

i had the car dyno'd before and after. i didn't "re-gain" shit...

until i see dyno papers, that's exactly what you're full of.

i find it hard to believe you dyno'd your car just to put on a CAI, and then put it on and dyno'd again. what else was installed with it? if nothing, you're an idiot for tuning a car for just a CAI.

HMUSN · December 15th, 2007, 12:14 PM

we don't name bash here.

argue with tact please.

mixedbreed02gt · December 15th, 2007, 12:30 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

we don't name bash here.

argue with tact please.

sorry...it's wasteful to spend the time and money tuning your car when the only thing you added was a CAI.

HMUSN · December 15th, 2007, 12:32 PM

the guys at JLT (as well as all other cai company's)do it to test there product

besides.. no one said he was tuning the car. you don't have to tune every time you hop on a dyno

mixedbreed02gt · December 15th, 2007, 12:40 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

the guys at JLT (as well as all other cai company's)do it to test there product

besides.. no one said he was tuning the car. you don't have to tune every time you hop on a dyno

he claims he gained 12 hp from adding a JLT CAI. he says he dyno'd the car before and after. i think he's full of it, because no one in there right mind would tune and dyno their car, after adding ONLY a CAI.

and if he did tune and dyno his car, after just adding a CAI...then that's just wasteful spending, and a complete waste of time.

until he has dyno sheets to prove it...it's all just talk.

HMUSN · December 15th, 2007, 12:51 PM

granted it's a Cobra so the numbers should be higher but here is a before and after on a stock vs jlt car.
21rwhp and 18 rwtq

http://www.svtcobraclub.com/TechAppl...LT_Results.pdf

so i can see 9 rwhp from a GT.

and this is a non bias third party result with dynos as requested

00vabchgt · December 15th, 2007, 01:01 PM

i dynoed the car after i bought the car to see what kind of power i was making. i had a few mods, nothing major. then i bought a JLT and dyno'd it again to see how much i gained. i didn't have it tuned, but i tuned it on the dyno ecause the JLT leaned out my A/F ratio. sorry if you think it's stupid to dyno your car after you mod it. i kinda like to know how much power my car is making and also to see the A/F. if i hadn't i could've wound up with a big problem due to the lean A/f. yeah, you're right, it's stupid to dyno your car after you mod it. i really must be an idiot. and i don't have to show you my dyno sheets to prove shit to you. if you don't believe that a CAI adds hp and tq, you should probably re-examine who you call an idiot...

December 1st, 2007, 02:03 PM	#1
gills99stang Achieving more N/A power! When this baby hits 88 miles an hour... Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Virginia Beach, Virginia Posts: 3,154 iTrader: 3 reviews	Cold Air Intakes Something I've been pondering for a while... why don't high performance cars, such as the GT500, come stock with a cold air intake? Steeda for example offers one and claims an increase of 12 hp. So why wouldn't Ford slap a cold air intake on there themselves? It's not like it's that expensive of a part. __________________ Brendan '99 Mustang GT [ 318 rwhp N/A ] - SOLD () '04 F150 XLT SuperCab

December 1st, 2007, 03:59 PM	#2
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	they do come with cold air intakes. why do you think you only see little gains when going with an after market part. __________________

December 1st, 2007, 07:23 PM	#4
rk_2000_Z/28 Forever in our hearts travis_afx 2003 SVT Cobra Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Enid, OK Posts: 4,313 iTrader: 0 reviews	Yup, HMUSN is right. But 9 times out of 10 the stock air intake is very restrictive, usually to keep road noise down because not everyone that buys a car like a Mustang wants balls out speed and noisy exhuast, sometimes they just want a nice comfortable car that is quick and cool to cruise around in. But for people like us that want to get every horsepower available, they make less restrictive air intakes, exhaust pipes, throttle bodies, etc. __________________ 03 Cobra-Slow 02 SS, 00 Z/28-Gone Rest In Peace Travis Billings

December 1st, 2007, 09:15 PM	#6
SWEET2KSTANG mm's nitrous mod 2000 mustang gt 11.79@115.83 (old set up) Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 12,542 iTrader: 8 reviews	it also leaves the aftermarket wide open to the mustangs. that is one thing nice about the ford's, aftermarket is wide open. __________________ project warhorse under construction wagon burner under construction as well (04 lightning) being built by MP2 Performance

December 1st, 2007, 10:50 PM	#7
Drick Big timin' in a small town 2004 FX4 F150, 86 GT Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Gods country. Nordern Michigan eh Posts: 14,336 iTrader: 1 reviews	If you already have that kind of numbers buy it __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #1 Don't take anything I say to heart, I don't try to come off as an asshole. It just happens

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TheBusher Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Chevrolet Impala ??? Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fort Collins, Colorado Posts: 2,241 iTrader: 0 reviews	+1 12 HP on top of 500+ hp... you'll never notice the difference

December 1st, 2007, 07:39 PM	#5
96GtGoodz Enthusiast 96 Mustang GT 5spd Vert. Not sure need to go to a track Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: N.Y. Posts: 991 iTrader: 0 reviews	+1

December 1st, 2007, 11:15 PM	#8
mattstang Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 1,761 iTrader: 1 reviews	emissions plays a role as well. not all are smog legal. and it keeps companies going so that their will be entusiasts for the mustang. __________________ FX4 Crew Crew member #3

December 2nd, 2007, 08:22 AM	#9
07stanggt I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2007 GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 11,950 iTrader: 1 reviews	Technically every car made now has a cold air intake. The after market ones are just suppose to be better . Less restrictive filters and so forth. By definition a cold air intake, back in the day was just not the stupid breather that sat on top of the carb which was right on top of the engine which was about the hottest place on the planet to get air from.

December 15th, 2007, 10:58 AM	#10
mixedbreed02gt Banned 2002 Mustang GT Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 169 iTrader: 0 reviews	the stock air boxes on the 99-04's are pretty efficient...there's not a whole lot to be gained by putting an aftermarket one on. if you remove the air silencer, you'll let a little more air in, and you might like it a little better too. I just stuck a MAC Straight shot on mine, and the only thing i really noticed was the throttle response is a little better, but that's about it. __________________ [URL="http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2522054/1"][SIGPIC][/SIGPIC][/URL] [URL="http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2522054"] My Car Domain Website[/URL] Entertaining Offers For My 2002 Mustang GT [URL]http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums/sale/57736-entertaining-offers-my-2002-mustang-gt.html[/URL]

December 15th, 2007, 12:14 PM	#15
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	we don't name bash here. argue with tact please. __________________

December 15th, 2007, 12:32 PM	#17
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	the guys at JLT (as well as all other cai company's)do it to test there product besides.. no one said he was tuning the car. you don't have to tune every time you hop on a dyno __________________

December 15th, 2007, 12:51 PM	#19
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO 48.47@ 12.58 Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 37,050 iTrader: 11 reviews	granted it's a Cobra so the numbers should be higher but here is a before and after on a stock vs jlt car. 21rwhp and 18 rwtq http://www.svtcobraclub.com/TechAppl...LT_Results.pdf so i can see 9 rwhp from a GT. and this is a non bias third party result with dynos as requested __________________

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