Gears or Headers?

acuboost · May 9th, 2008, 10:41 AM

Got the S&L and tuner, any thoughts on what to do next, 3.73 gears or MAC direct fit header leaving the rst of the exhaust stock?

I'll say it before anyone else does, no I don't need head grear

03TropicGt · May 9th, 2008, 10:49 AM

if you want headers id do longtubes shorties are a waste for power gains. and if you do longtubes you will need a shorty midpipe. gears will prob be cheaper

1Badsnake · May 9th, 2008, 10:50 AM

gears!

acuboost · May 9th, 2008, 10:54 AM

recommendation for the shorty pipe?

07stanggt · May 9th, 2008, 11:52 AM

What do you like H pipe, X pipe, Prochamber?

And dont listen to 03 guys on header issues. Your car will not see the gains from long tubes that an 03 would see. Guys expecting 20+ horsepower gains with long tubes on s197s get their feelings hurt real quick.

Shortys can show good mid rang HP and TQ gains on your car for a lot less money then longtubes. You wont see the top end gains that long tubes bring but 10 and 12 midrange hp and tq gains are hardly a waste of money. matter of fact for a street car they are just a valuable.

Think about this for a second, I spent 1900 on exhuast. The best on the market, kooks catted x pipe with magnaflow cat back into magnapacks. I got a full race exhuast and i gained 12hp. Thats a $158.33 a hp. And the o/r kooks setup only picks up about 3 more hp. I have seen it. 4 guys on this site with long tubes on n/a s197s and all of them have only seen 10 to 12 hp.

Sn95 stangs and older see much higher gains with long tubes, and they think that we will as well. We dont.

I sell both and will make more off you if you buy long tubes. Im not trying to steer you either way.

Shorty's with a splice in prochamber or and x pipe and you can some decent power gains. spend a 1/3 of the money and stay street legal. Just a thought.

969800gt · May 9th, 2008, 12:32 PM

gears!

07stanggt · May 9th, 2008, 12:36 PM

Yea and deffinatly from a performance standpoint gears are the way to go.

acuboost · May 9th, 2008, 01:37 PM

Point well taken. not done a lot of research on the difference of pipes and that's when you peeps come in handy with all your experience.
Richard: Get me a couple of options and cost and and I will get this done today hopefully

Roos85 · May 18th, 2008, 04:01 PM

Gears

May 9th, 2008, 10:41 AM	#1
acuboost Regular 2007 GT/CS 5 Speed Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 74	Gears or Headers? Got the S&L and tuner, any thoughts on what to do next, 3.73 gears or MAC direct fit header leaving the rst of the exhaust stock? I'll say it before anyone else does, no I don't need head grear __________________ [SIGPIC][

May 9th, 2008, 10:54 AM	#4
acuboost Regular 2007 GT/CS 5 Speed Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 74	recommendation for the shorty pipe? __________________ [SIGPIC][

May 9th, 2008, 11:52 AM	#5
07stanggt Authorized Vendor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 2,674	What do you like H pipe, X pipe, Prochamber? And dont listen to 03 guys on header issues. Your car will not see the gains from long tubes that an 03 would see. Guys expecting 20+ horsepower gains with long tubes on s197s get their feelings hurt real quick. Shortys can show good mid rang HP and TQ gains on your car for a lot less money then longtubes. You wont see the top end gains that long tubes bring but 10 and 12 midrange hp and tq gains are hardly a waste of money. matter of fact for a street car they are just a valuable. Think about this for a second, I spent 1900 on exhuast. The best on the market, kooks catted x pipe with magnaflow cat back into magnapacks. I got a full race exhuast and i gained 12hp. Thats a $158.33 a hp. And the o/r kooks setup only picks up about 3 more hp. I have seen it. 4 guys on this site with long tubes on n/a s197s and all of them have only seen 10 to 12 hp. Sn95 stangs and older see much higher gains with long tubes, and they think that we will as well. We dont. I sell both and will make more off you if you buy long tubes. Im not trying to steer you either way. Shorty's with a splice in prochamber or and x pipe and you can some decent power gains. spend a 1/3 of the money and stay street legal. Just a thought. __________________ 352rwhp, 332rwtq Sound clip http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/j...rent=Stang.flv www.radmustangs.com .

May 9th, 2008, 12:36 PM	#7
07stanggt Authorized Vendor Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 2,674	Yea and deffinatly from a performance standpoint gears are the way to go. __________________ 352rwhp, 332rwtq Sound clip http://s275.photobucket.com/albums/j...rent=Stang.flv www.radmustangs.com .

May 9th, 2008, 01:37 PM	#8
acuboost Regular 2007 GT/CS 5 Speed Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 74	Point well taken. not done a lot of research on the difference of pipes and that's when you peeps come in handy with all your experience. Richard: Get me a couple of options and cost and and I will get this done today hopefully __________________ [SIGPIC][

May 9th, 2008, 10:49 AM	#2
03TropicGt Regular 2003 Mustang GT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 334	if you want headers id do longtubes shorties are a waste for power gains. and if you do longtubes you will need a shorty midpipe. gears will prob be cheaper

May 9th, 2008, 10:50 AM	#3
1Badsnake Regular 2003 Mustang Cobra Join Date: May 2007 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 133	gears!

May 9th, 2008, 12:32 PM	#6
969800gt Regular '98 GT & '96 Civic Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 129	gears!

May 18th, 2008, 04:01 PM	#9
Roos85 Regular 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: May 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 121	Gears __________________ 2004 Comp Orange GT - SLP Loudmouth, Steeda Tri-ax, JLT Ram Air

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