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'Consensus' Takes Another Hit! More than 60 German Scientists Dissent Over Global Warming Claims! Call Climate Fears 'Pseudo 'Religion'; Urge Chancellor to 'reconsider' views | Climate Depot

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More than 60 prominent German scientists have publicly declared their dissent from man-made global warming fears in an Open Letter to German Chancellor Angela Merkel. The more than 60 signers of the letter include several United Nations IPCC scientists.

The scientists declared that global warming has become a “pseudo religion” and they noted that rising CO2 has “had no measurable effect” on temperatures. The German scientists, also wrote that the “UN IPCC has lost its scientific credibility.”

This latest development comes on the heels of a series of inconvenient developments for the promoters of man-made global warming fears, including new peer-reviewed studies, real world data, a growing chorus of scientists dissenting (including more UN IPCC scientists), open revolts in scientific societies and the Earth's failure to warm. In addition, public opinion continues to turn against climate fear promotion. (See "Related Links" at bottom of this article for more inconvenient scientific developments.)

The July 26, 2009 German scientist letter urged Chancellor Merkel to “strongly reconsider” her position on global warming and requested a “convening of an impartial panel” that is “free of ideology” to counter the UN IPCC and review the latest climate science developments.

The scientists, from many disciplines, including physicists, meteorology, chemistry, and geology, explain that “humans have had no measurable effect on global warming through CO2 emissions. Instead the temperature fluctuations have been within normal ranges and are due to natural cycles.”

“More importantly, there's a growing body of evidence showing anthropogenic CO2 plays no measurable role,” the scientists wrote. “Indeed CO2's capability to absorb radiation is already exhausted by today's atmospheric concentrations. If CO2 did indeed have an effect and all fossil fuels were burned, then additional warming over the long term would in fact remain limited to only a few tenths of a degree,” they added.

“The IPCC had to have been aware of this fact, but completely ignored it during its studies of 160 years of temperature measurements and 150 years of determined CO2 levels. As a result the IPCC has lost its scientific credibility,” the scientists wrote.

“Indeed the atmosphere has not warmed since 1998 – more than 10 years, and the global temperature has even dropped significantly since 2003. Not one of the many extremely expensive climate models predicted this. According to the IPCC, it was supposed to have gotten steadily warmer, but just the opposite has occurred,” the scientists wrote.

“The belief of climate change, and that it is manmade, has become a pseudo-religion,” the scientists wrote. “The German media has sadly taken a leading position in refusing to publicize views that are critical of anthropogenic global warming,” they added.

“Do you not believe, Madam Chancellor, that science entails more than just confirming a hypothesis, but also involves testing to see if the opposite better explains reality? We strongly urge you to reconsider your position on this subject and to convene an impartial panel for the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, one that is free of ideology, and where controversial arguments can be openly debated. We the undersigned would very much like to offer support in this regard.

Full Text of Translated Letter By 60 plus German Scientists: (emphasis added):

Open Letter – Climate Change

Bundeskanzleramt

Frau Bundeskanzerlin Dr. Angela Merkel

Willy-Brandt-Strabe 1

10557 Berlin

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Vizerprasident
Dipl. Ing. Michael Limburg
14476 Grob Glienicke
Richard-Wagner-Str. 5a

E-mail: limburg@grafik-system.de

Grob Glienicke 26.07.09

To the attention of the Honorable Madam Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany

When one studies history, one learns that the development of societies is often determined by a zeitgeist, which at times had detrimental or even horrific results for humanity. History tells us time and again that political leaders often have made poor decisions because they followed the advice of advisors who were incompetent or ideologues and failed to recognize it in time. Moreover evolution also shows that natural development took a wide variety of paths with most of them leading to dead ends. No era is immune from repeating the mistakes of the past.

Politicians often launch their careers using a topic that allows them to stand out. Earlier as Minister of the Environment you legitimately did this as well by assigning a high priority to climate change. But in doing so you committed an error that has since led to much damage, something that should have never happened, especially given the fact you are a physicist. You confirmed that climate change is caused by human activity and have made it a primary objective to implement expensive strategies to reduce the so-called greenhouse gas CO2. You have done so without first having a real discussion to check whether early temperature measurements and a host of other climate related facts even justify it.

A real comprehensive study, whose value would have been absolutely essential, would have shown, even before the IPCC was founded, that humans have had no measurable effect on global warming through CO2 emissions. Instead the temperature fluctuations have been within normal ranges and are due to natural cycles. Indeed the atmosphere has not warmed since 1998 – more than 10 years, and the global temperature has even dropped significantly since 2003.

Not one of the many extremely expensive climate models predicted this. According to the IPCC, it was supposed to have gotten steadily warmer, but just the opposite has occurred.

More importantly, there's a growing body of evidence showing anthropogenic CO2 plays no measurable role. Indeed CO2's capability to absorb radiation is already exhausted by today's atmospheric concentrations. If CO2 did indeed have an effect and all fossil fuels were burned, then additional warming over the long term would in fact remain limited to only a few tenths of a degree.

The IPCC had to have been aware of this fact, but completely ignored it during its studies of 160 years of temperature measurements and 150 years of determined CO2 levels. As a result the IPCC has lost its scientific credibility. The main points on this subject are included in the accompanying addendum.

In the meantime, the belief of climate change, and that it is manmade, has become a pseudo-religion. Its proponents, without thought, pillory independent and fact-based analysts and experts, many of whom are the best and brightest of the international scientific community. Fortunately in the internet it is possible to find numerous scientific works that show in detail there is no anthropogenic CO2 caused climate change. If it was not for the internet, climate realists would hardly be able to make their voices heard. Rarely do their critical views get published.

The German media has sadly taken a leading position in refusing to publicize views that are critical of anthropogenic global warming. For example, at the second International Climate Realist Conference on Climate in New York last March, approximately 800 leading scientists attended, some of whom are among the world's best climatologists or specialists in related fields. While the US media and only the Wiener Zeitung (Vienna daily) covered the event, here in Germany the press, public television and radio shut it out. It is indeed unfortunate how our media have developed - under earlier dictatorships the media were told what was not worth reporting. But today they know it without getting instructions.

Do you not believe, Madam Chancellor, that science entails more than just confirming a hypothesis, but also involves testing to see if the opposite better explains reality? We strongly urge you to reconsider your position on this subject and to convene an impartial panel for the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, one that is free of ideology, and where controversial arguments can be openly debated. We the undersigned would very much like to offer support in this regard.

Respectfully yours,

Prof. Dr.rer.nat. Friedrich-Karl Ewert EIKE

Diplom-Geologe

Universität. - GH - Paderborn, Abt. Höxter (ret.)

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Dr. Holger Thuß

EIKE President

European Institute for Climate and Energy

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[Dansby]

It snowed in southeast texas this past winter. There is NO global warming, haha.

[Nossit]

60 german scientists are wrong.

[Fastback91]

Originally Posted by Nossit 60 german scientists are wrong.

are you joking around or are you being serious?

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by Fastback91 are you joking around or are you being serious?

+1

i think the whole global warming thing is a joke. the earth has natural warming cycles and guess what this is probably one of them.

[silverstang]

just like the moon landing.

[Dansby]

Ya, and dinosaurs.

[silverstang]

Originally Posted by Dansby Ya, and dinosaurs.

I was serious, lol

[Dansby]

...me too.

[Nossit]

I was really just messing with you.

I don't know from a scientific stand point but I do believe that its real from what I've heard. Can't trust what you hear though so I can't even trust this.

In the past Germans have been WAY wrong. lol.

[Dansby]

In the past Americans have been way wrong to. Bear in mind the news is run by liberal democrats.

[Nossit]

Oh God don't get me in a Bill O'Reily debate lol.

I don't like Fox news nor do I want to act like I'm on it lol.

[WLJohnson05]

Originally Posted by silverstang just like the moon landing.

naw i think the moon landing is real. i believe we do have that ability. but to think that we have the actual ability to warm the earth is ridiculous in my book. and even if it is true the CO2 impact we would have would be so tiny that it would in effect be no impact at all.

[Fluffy The Rhino]

It snowed here a few times this winter. And it was a LOT of snow.

Wait, did someone really say something about the moon landing being a joke?

One of my friends and former coworkers used to be in the Air Force... one of the places he was stationed at used an object our astronauts left on the moon to calibrate some piece of equipment. Don't remember what it was. But he laughs at the moon landing conspiracy nutjobs because he's seen things on the moon our guys left there.... with his own eyes through a telescope. If that isn't evidence enough.... well then. What's left to say?

[Trick Tuners]

Global warming was created by guys that needed jobs. The earth is still not as hot as its ever been, and if you graph world temp on a multi 100,000yr scale you see a wild line and nothing is out of range for today. Lets see these "scientists" explain how we have had multiple ice ages and periods of warming and cooling before they say we are responsible. Hmmm, they have no idea, or even a theory on these HUGE climatic changes?? Anybody can skew data to prove a point. Cut off the top of a dyno sheet and project that curve up to 10,000rpms. Now you can say you will make 5000hp!

I had a class on global warming in Berkeley and the general consensus was "anybody can skew data to prove a point" but when you look at the big picture you cant see anything out of the noise. Temps have been hotter in the past, and CO2 levels have been 1000s of times higher than they are now. Explain that! The model they are dealing with has WAY too many unknown variables to predict anything. Hell they can't even tell us what the weather will be like TOMORROW and they can "predict" what it will be like in 10 years!! hahahahahahahahah

[silverstang]

I'm not saying if the moon landing is real or not. I wasn't there. There are many, MANY very interesting things to prove it was fake, though. I could care less. If they did, it was fucking stupid, and a waste of money. But the government has been asked many times to prove it, AND THERE IS NO TELESCOPE GOOD ENOUGH TO PROVE IF ANYTHING WAS LEFT ON THE MOON. THAT is a fact.

[Trick Tuners]

Originally Posted by FluffyTheRhino because he's seen things on the moon our guys left there.... with his own eyes through a telescope.

BULLSHIT. Show me a picture. Surly there has got to be one on the net. Even the biggest telescope in the world does not have that resolution.

[silverstang]

look at some of the "real" moon landing photos. There are permanent cross hairs engraved into the lenses of the astronauts cameras, thus meaning WHATEVER they take a picture of had small crosshairs in front of it. There were like 4 or 6 of them on each lense. TELL me how in the HELL some objects got placed OVER the crosshairs, unless the photos were tampered with.


Sorry for the thread jack, I just like conspiracy stuff lol

[Fluffy The Rhino]

Originally Posted by Trick Tuners BULLSHIT. Show me a picture. Surly there has got to be one on the net. Even the biggest telescope in the world does not have that resolution.

Originally Posted by silverstang I'm not saying if the moon landing is real or not. I wasn't there. There are many, MANY very interesting things to prove it was fake, though. I could care less. If they did, it was fucking stupid, and a waste of money. But the government has been asked many times to prove it, AND THERE IS NO TELESCOPE GOOD ENOUGH TO PROVE IF ANYTHING WAS LEFT ON THE MOON. THAT is a fact.

I stand corrected, it was a laser calibration tool. I just called him and asked him about it.

The Most Important Thing Armstrong Left on the Moon

But hey, what do people who actually have experience know vs. people who are just throwing around opinions.

[Nossit]

Originally Posted by FluffyTheRhino I stand corrected, it was a laser calibration tool. I just called him and asked him about it. The Most Important Thing Armstrong Left on the Moon But hey, what do people who actually have experience know vs. people who are just throwing around opinions.

If anyone calls shinanigans I'll be surprised. Well no, I won't be surprised.......