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View Poll Results: what s/c do you preffer
vortec 3 10.00%
procharger 3 10.00%
kenne bell 24 80.00%
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Old February 25th, 2007, 05:51 PM   #1
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kenne bell


what yall think of these superchargers, i am doing a 3.8 to 5.0 swap and am going to fully build the engine and like these superchargers.
 

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Old February 25th, 2007, 07:36 PM   #2
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I personally love screwchargers and their ability to make airflow at the rate they do whether or not they put a load on the engine. Of course procharger and vortech are good centrifugal chargers as well and make high power at a high RPM.
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i voted kenne bell cause they are purdy

lol j/k

kenne bells are very nice twin screw superchargers. whipple is also a very good supercharger.. if im not mistaken i think it is a centrifugal s/c
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it would either be KB or procharger, i always been a fan of prochargers myself which is why every stang i had and will have a procharger.
 
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KB man then you can tell hondas your s/c has more displacement than there engine
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I love my KB.
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Originally Posted by Haggis13
I love my KB.
i love mine too

oh, thats right. i dont have one.
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Originally Posted by BWAL09
Originally Posted by Haggis13
I love my KB.
i love mine too

oh, thats right. i dont have one.

I'm right there with you.

I chose KB because it puts the least amount of strain on your engine and the kits come with all the goodies you'll need, unless you are running an outrageuos amount of boost.
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Originally Posted by neckbonekat
Originally Posted by BWAL09
Originally Posted by Haggis13
I love my KB.
i love mine too

oh, thats right. i dont have one.

I'm right there with you.

I chose KB because it puts the least amount of strain on your engine and the kits come with all the goodies you'll need, unless you are running an outrageuos amount of boost.
how does the KB put less stress on the engine than any other blower or turbo. i would like to know.
 
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Originally Posted by matrixpuba
Originally Posted by neckbonekat
Originally Posted by BWAL09
Originally Posted by Haggis13
I love my KB.
i love mine too

oh, thats right. i dont have one.

I'm right there with you.

I chose KB because it puts the least amount of strain on your engine and the kits come with all the goodies you'll need, unless you are running an outrageuos amount of boost.
how does the KB put less stress on the engine than any other blower or turbo. i would like to know.
I would like to know that as well...I have seen alot more KB cars pop then I have centri cars...
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and it better be a good answer too son lol
 
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Originally Posted by matrixpuba
and it better be a good answer too son lol
I,ve been looking for the article for like ten minutes. When I find it I will post a link. It basically said that with the different types of SC runnng the same amount of bost the KB SC put the least amunt of stress on the internals and provides a more constant HP and torque increase throughout the entire RPM range.

Originally Posted by ChrisJ
I would like to know that as well...I have seen alot more KB cars pop then I have centri cars...
That doesn't mean it was the KB, that means they were running more boost than thier car could handle. Could happen with any SC.
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Originally Posted by neckbonekat
Originally Posted by matrixpuba
and it better be a good answer too son lol
I,ve been looking for the article for like ten minutes. When I find it I will post a link. It basically said that with the different types of SC runnng the same amount of bost the KB SC put the least amunt of stress on the internals and provides a more constant HP and torque increase throughout the entire RPM range.

Originally Posted by ChrisJ
I would like to know that as well...I have seen alot more KB cars pop then I have centri cars...
That doesn't mean it was the KB, that means they were running more boost than thier car could handle. Could happen with any SC.
I think you've misinterpreted what they (KB) said. They don't mention anything about motor stress, they do however go on at great length about Twin Screw benefits. The following is perhaps the most significant benefit of Twin Screw, as stated by Muscle mustangs and fast Fords:

"Anyone knows that a motor equipped with a centrifugal supercharger will only make 10 psi at
the very top of the rpm scale. Owners of a positive displacement supercharged motor, on the
other hand, can enjoy 10 psi every time he or she stomps down on the gas. That 10 psi is
available right now and a ton of torque right along with it. Such is the benefit of a positive
displacement supercharger: immediate boost. The limitations in top-end power are offset by a
truckload of torque only dreamed about over in the centrifugal camp. Even at part-throttle, the
positive displacement supercharger will offer as much as 100 percent more boost at the lower
rpm compared to a centrifugal. Having 5 psi at part throttle makes for a seriously fun car to
drive. Those 5-psi part-throttle stabs will be used 100 times more than the full-throttle rips up to
redline, especially on a serious motor. How many times do you get to rip all the way to redline in
any gear, let alone several in a row?"
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To me having 10psi at all times while accelerating would be HARDER on the motor...

It all depends on what you want...

Look at the number of people running stock motors with centris compared to how many people run stock motors with KB...

KB is an awesome blower dont get me wrong...But the little 10 PSI at most on a centri blower is misleading...Pulleys can solve that issue...
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Originally Posted by ChrisJ
To me having 10psi at all times while accelerating would be HARDER on the motor...

It all depends on what you want...

Look at the number of people running stock motors with centris compared to how many people run stock motors with KB...

KB is an awesome blower dont get me wrong...But the little 10 PSI at most on a centri blower is misleading...Pulleys can solve that issue...
Who can really say? Over-revving your stock internals will grenade your motor faster than throwing a blower onto it. It all depends what the end user is looking for. Price is a big deal for a lot of people as well. KB's aren't cheap. If you want your motor to last forever, stay under 8lbs of boost and granny shift at 5500rpm I'd say!

If you're a speed freak, and/or you've built your motor, then climb away into the boost-o-sphere.
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Never seen anyone have to redline their motor to get full boost...But its not really about that...

Plain and simple...

You have to pay to play...

When you buy a blower you are saying you are ready to face the consequences...
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Originally Posted by Haggis13
Originally Posted by neckbonekat
Originally Posted by matrixpuba
and it better be a good answer too son lol
I,ve been looking for the article for like ten minutes. When I find it I will post a link. It basically said that with the different types of SC runnng the same amount of bost the KB SC put the least amunt of stress on the internals and provides a more constant HP and torque increase throughout the entire RPM range.

Originally Posted by ChrisJ
I would like to know that as well...I have seen alot more KB cars pop then I have centri cars...
That doesn't mean it was the KB, that means they were running more boost than thier car could handle. Could happen with any SC.
I think you've misinterpreted what they (KB) said. They don't mention anything about motor stress, they do however go on at great length about Twin Screw benefits. The following is perhaps the most significant benefit of Twin Screw, as stated by Muscle mustangs and fast Fords:

"Anyone knows that a motor equipped with a centrifugal supercharger will only make 10 psi at
the very top of the rpm scale. Owners of a positive displacement supercharged motor, on the
other hand, can enjoy 10 psi every time he or she stomps down on the gas. That 10 psi is
available right now and a ton of torque right along with it. Such is the benefit of a positive
displacement supercharger: immediate boost. The limitations in top-end power are offset by a
truckload of torque only dreamed about over in the centrifugal camp. Even at part-throttle, the
positive displacement supercharger will offer as much as 100 percent more boost at the lower
rpm compared to a centrifugal. Having 5 psi at part throttle makes for a seriously fun car to
drive. Those 5-psi part-throttle stabs will be used 100 times more than the full-throttle rips up to
redline, especially on a serious motor. How many times do you get to rip all the way to redline in
any gear, let alone several in a row?"
It's possible that I misunderstood, but that's not what I'm talking about. I read that too, but the thing I'm talking about is an article in a seperate car magazine, but for the life of me I can't remember where I was when I read it or what magazine it was. I can't even remember if it was online or an actual magazine. LOL
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any blower has the ability to blow up a motor. wether its a positive displacement or centri. one is not easier than the other. now a blower motor has been known to be easier on rods and rod bearings compared to nitrous but its still a debatable issue.
 
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