[Danderson]

I have decided to get a turbo. But wich one should i get? I have seen the ones at tma turbo. I wan know what all i will need to safely run a turbo. like what are the componests that i would need to forage. If any one have picks of a install or has any tips for me on what to do please say so! I want to get as much info before i spend 3000+.

[bransdaman78]

well... thats a long answer. I think a v8 swapp would be a better idea, most turbo v6's still just barely run stock and or bolt on Gt's. i think its going to be probly even cheaper than buildin your v6. just buy a 4.6 block, add internals then add heads - it will be the about the same price as rebuilding your v-6, but pay off soooo much more

[GreenFaleen]

Originally Posted by bransdaman78 well... thats a long answer. I think a v8 swapp would be a better idea, most turbo v6's still just barely run stock and or bolt on Gt's. i think its going to be probly even cheaper than buildin your v6. just buy a 4.6 block, add internals then add heads - it will be the about the same price as rebuilding your v-6, but pay off soooo much more

WTF??? what are you smoking?

Get a tma turbo kit comes with everything to turbo it. If you want to run over 7psi (which you do), forge all your internals it will be about 1500 for the internals and probably about 900+ for install on them. I would also get a 8.8 rear end since you will probably see over 350 hp at 14-16psi. Tma has some street/strip kits ad race only they can also build a kit for what you want. You will also want to get a good dyno tune as well.

[bransdaman78]

im smoking reality, 2v block 200-300, internals 1500, install 1000-1500, heads 1300, capabilty 800+ hp, then... FI s-trim (just as example) 3200-3800 = 550-650 full time rwhp plus 500.00 for n2o = bad ass ride, for roughly the same amount of money

[GreenFaleen]

Nah 4.6 install is going to be at least 2500-3000, for a 250hp engine plus he will spend the same for heads and internals to rebuild a 4.6 he got for 200 bucks and he will still need the rear end.

TMA turbo kit capable of 750 hp on a stock v6 -3582 + 1500 for tune and install
rear end 1500-2000 - installed and upgraded
internals-2500 installed
so about 9 grand and able to run 750 hp vs a v8 drop for the same amount and maybe getting 350-450 with a 100-200 shot of n2o which will kill the engine in no time if it is a DD.

[MeZ]

Say he buys a 4.6 re-builds it and installs it you're looking at 3500 , another 3500 -4 grand to install a vortech T Trim blower ( which can put you well into the 9's ) and tune it ..

so for about 7 grand you have a fully built in essance brand new motor and sick ass blower

You can upgrade the axles ... and tranny .. and even for the 10 grand you'll end up spending .. you'll have a car that will rape the turbo v6 up and down .. and there aint not damn way you'll be getting 750 rwhp out a v6 unless you're throwing down like 30 psi and a hell of a built motor .. etc .. thats a dream

[GreenFaleen]

tma makes turbos capable of them and they have dyno sheets

www.tmaturbo.com check it out, but again DD car and a v8 swap NA car with same hp as a turboed v6 v6 will win no problem

[MeZ]

That V8 swap im telling you about is not NA .. its FI .. T trim .. and will spank the V6 . Not to mention sound alot better .. V6's are just weak sounding .. turbo or w/e .. they just aren't worth messing with unless you want to dump a shit ton of money into it to prove some kind of point .. then again .. i'll just take my v8 and and a twin turbo kit .. and for 10 grand run you in the ground again .. its just a losing battle for the v6 ... but I can't wait for people to come on here and say ..let him be .. to each his own .. all that mess .. the truth is get a v8 and you'll be alot happier in the end ...

[MeZ]

By the way .. the site is talking about how far the turbo can take you ... there is not one dyno on that sheet over 500 and some change ..

[GreenFaleen]

Originally Posted by MeZ That V8 swap im telling you about is not NA .. its FI .. T trim .. and will spank the V6 . Not to mention sound alot better .. V6's are just weak sounding .. turbo or w/e .. they just aren't worth messing with unless you want to dump a shit ton of money into it to prove some kind of point .. then again .. i'll just take my v8 and and a twin turbo kit .. and for 10 grand run you in the ground again .. its just a losing battle for the v6 ... but I can't wait for people to come on here and say ..let him be .. to each his own .. all that mess .. the truth is get a v8 and you'll be alot happier in the end ...

Not always, and he will be spending at least 3-6 grand more on a v8 then putting FI on it then just turboing his v6. The v6 is still a great engine it may be smaller but engien size doesn't matter that much any more so like you said let him be. Sound don't mean shit when you are ahead of the other person.

[GreenFaleen]

http://www.tmaturbo.com/dyno.htm

second sheet down

[MeZ]

Ok .. so where does it say 750 hp ?!?! .. i read all the dyno sheets .. one guy got 500 to the wheels ..

and a v8 and v6 aren't almost equal .. theres a pretty sizeable difference...

what is the point of spending 2500 on forged internals and another 5-7 grand on a turbo install on a v6 to run 12's ...

when you can strap on a s trim to a stock 4.6 and add some suspension and run high 11's ..

[GreenFaleen]

show me a 4.6 with an s-trim on stock internals running 11's??? Not going to happen and on a DD 12's are damn fast.

[MeZ]

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...ection=V-Rides

[MeZ]

[bransdaman78]

you did not just say "show me an S trim in the 11's'" ? Dude, thats pretty common place, and low 12's are about the norm with average suspensions. Besides that were talking about T trim's. And yes a built v6 with twin turbos can expect about 400-450 rwhp, but it will still be a mid 12' sec car and thats with tons-o-suspension. Mid 700's are simply not going to happen, your gonna need a custom block to make that kind of power on a ford v-6. The best bet for v-6 power is probly a built motor with alot of nitrous, there is one around here at custom performance, it was pushing something crazy like 650 rwhp on spray, but was still an 11 second car. But im not saying you cant make a v-6 fast, but rather that in a mustang a v8 is more fitting, more fun and more responsive to mods - youre going to get ALOT more out of it, ALOT easier. Not to mention it will be much much easier for you to try and get some of your money back out of it when you sell it. But i respect the disire to have a custom v6, and if thats what you want... do it. But from a cost aspect - its pretty hard to beat a domestic v8

[GreenFaleen]

Well a v8 with the same mods is of course going to win, but at the point of having 450-500 hp thats all you need on a DD and your going to get higher numbers for the same price putting the turbo on the v6 then dropping a v8 in first. And I know 11's with an s-trim isn't hard but with stock internals is what I said. which all of those have built internals.

[bransdaman78]

no thats what I am saying there are tons and TONS of people in the 11's on stock motors... 400 rwhp will get you 11's with suspension and a gear

[bransdaman78]

i know one guy, running 11.2's on a stock PI motor and v-1 at 410 rwhp!

[GreenFaleen]

Well even if that is the case. A v8 swap is a huge hassle that will net him not near the gains for just a turbo in his v6. Sorry I have a problem with guys wanting to mod their v6's and people just tell them to get a v8 which isn't the best option 90% of the time. In fact I have a problem with people wanting to mod their cars a certain way and people tell them they are wrong "such and such is better". When you want a certain set up you know what will make you happy so get it and a v8 drop is not a good idea for the money he will end up spending.