Stock SRT-4 vs a Stock 02 GT 5spd

Ke^in · May 5th, 2009, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

^ exactly. roll race.. the skittle will win, a dig the GT will win. evenly matched cars.

And this is why everyone that has no skills at driving, or has a car that can't launch, wants to race via roll. Anytime I hear "lets go from a roll" I immediatly know that 1. He's afraid of said car he is racing. 2. He can't shift/launch 3. Car sucks from a dig.

I believe that the launch/start is every bit part of a race as the finish. There is no skill involved with simply hitting the gas more. And most of the people that brag about beating a car more than likely faster than they are, are usually talking about street 'races" that the other guy may have not been racing.

bone_crusher · May 5th, 2009, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by weems

That post cracks me up, I had to make an account to negate some of their facts, I am just waiting activation. I browse that forum a lot since my buddy has a srt, but damn some of them are very very flawed.

They said a 500 hp GT500 could not run an 11.3, that makes me lol.

both car communities have their share of ppl who think their cars is the shit with no idea about how any other car performes. or can give no reason why their car is so good (no name but ive seen one in this thread.)

Originally Posted by Ke^in

I think he means OVER ALL.. not just speed. The GT is over all, a nicer car.

if you mean interior wise that is a matter of personal opinion. both cars have cheap plastic interior parts. both cars will rattle and rub over bumps and at high speeds. i find the mustang seats not so comfortable and i love the srt4 seats. they both have what ppl classify at "rental" interiors.

Ke^in · May 5th, 2009, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by weems

They said a 500 hp GT500 could not run an 11.3, that makes me lol.

I wont discuss cars or make said statements unless I know about them. Mustangs and Neons I know about. These guys really just ...I am not sure if it's ignorance, or insecurity.

1979rs/z28 · May 5th, 2009, 12:12 PM

Skittles are hell to launch with no tire, its really hard get them going without spinning!
I could def. get my mustang out of the hole harder!
But on a side note when my buddy got a limited slip or whatever and few more bolt ons on his srt4 murdered me from a dead stop...

bone_crusher · May 5th, 2009, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by Ke^in

And this is why everyone that has no skills at driving, or has a car that can't launch, wants to race via roll. Anytime I hear "lets go from a roll" I immediatly know that 1. He's afraid of said car he is racing. 2. He can't shift/launch 3. Car sucks from a dig.

I believe that the launch/start is every bit part of a race as the finish. There is no skill involved with simply hitting the gas more. And most of the people that brag about beating a car more than likely faster than they are, are usually talking about street 'races" that the other guy may have not been racing.

this is very true. id rather race you at the track and get a real win then risk getting my car impounded and a massive fine annnddd still have to face Repercussions in the military.

Ke^in · May 5th, 2009, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by bone_crusher

if you mean interior wise that is a matter of personal opinion. both cars have cheap plastic interior parts. both cars will rattle and rub over bumps and at high speeds. i find the mustang seats not so comfortable and i love the srt4 seats. they both have what ppl classify at "rental" interiors.

Depends on the mustang. Especially a GT with a leather interior. I was actually speaking about FIT and Finish. The GT is just put together over all a bit better. I am a HUGE Neon/SRT fan too. So don't mistake me for someone that doesn't know about them, or is smacking on them. I was hanging out on Neon boards back in 97. I remember when the first rumors of SRTs came out. Their interiors are as bad as stock Neons, but they aren't much better. But then again, SRT-4s aren't meant to be luxury vehicles. They are basically Neons with PT Cruiser internals. I am glad the 2nd year got the LSD though. That is what a lot of 1st gen drivers put as their first mod. The SRT without a limited slip is pretty squirrelly.

I am seriously thinking about purchasing a 2nd year SRT-4 for my wife.

Ke^in · May 5th, 2009, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by 1979rs/z28

Skittles are hell to launch with no tire, its really hard get them going without spinning!
I could def. get my mustang out of the hole harder!
But on a side note when my buddy got a limited slip or whatever and few more bolt ons on his srt4 murdered me from a dead stop...

Yeah the SRT with a LSD is a ton better. The first year was the only year they didn't come with a LSD.

Things that are stock and a no-brainer in a GT were an afterthought with the SRT it seems.

1979rs/z28 · May 5th, 2009, 12:18 PM

Yea wasnt the 1st year 03 or something i think thats what his was. It actually hooks ok now that hes got it so it launches on low boost now.

HMUSN · May 5th, 2009, 12:18 PM

the srt's suck from a dig even with a good tire.. lol Tq steer ftl.

Ke^in · May 5th, 2009, 12:19 PM

Originally Posted by bone_crusher

this is very true. id rather race you at the track and get a real win then risk getting my car impounded and a massive fine annnddd still have to face Repercussions in the military.

That and half of the "races" aren't really races. Like I said, I rarely if ever race anyone on the street. Most of the time I just stop them from being able to pass me. In this situation they are going to be ahead of me by a car length. I can see certain people seeing this as a race, and that they beat me. It's just not so.

Also, if you go and do a drive by really fast, to get someone to race via roll, you have the starting advantage, and was ready than your opponent. Some people don't care about being fair. They just wanna make a lot of noise and "look" cool.

Ke^in · May 5th, 2009, 12:58 PM

*sigh* got to love this post

Originally Posted by DSCRACING

DON"T make statements that sound like it can't happen! I ran a 13.5 comp. STOCK. And then took the car 11.19 on a big turbo and still 100% stock head, block, and axles.

If you put me in a 100% STOCK SRT-4... I will show you a win over a GT!

15 post and already a TROLL!

What a exaggerated post. I'd love to see those 13.5 times on a stock SRT-4. I wont go into the fact where he claims he can kill any GT with a stock SRT-4. If the GT had a better driver in it, he's toast. What cracks me up is, he made said statements, then called ME a troll! AHAHHA

He needs humbled.

bone_crusher · May 5th, 2009, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

the srt's suck from a dig even with a good tire.. lol Tq steer ftl.

not saying your wrong cause ive had some close calls with ditches and gutters, but at the track if you launch about 1500 and feather the clutch in 1st then get on it you will run great

HMUSN · May 5th, 2009, 02:29 PM

true enough. Most people with skittles (and mustangs alike) are kids with little to no seat time. I see those things switch lanes off a street launch all the time. lol

bone_crusher · May 5th, 2009, 02:47 PM

very true about the kids behind the wheel. ppl wrap both around trees all the time.

Ke^in · May 5th, 2009, 02:58 PM

One of the reasons I have waited till I was in my 30s to get a fast car. I have plenty of experience in the shifting driving category. My only concern is the RWD in the snow..

HMUSN · May 5th, 2009, 03:01 PM

that is why you buy a beater car. I picked up a Jeep wrangler 5 spd 4x4 for $2,200.

bone_crusher · May 5th, 2009, 03:14 PM

winter beater FTW lol

WillKill · May 5th, 2009, 03:50 PM

Originally Posted by bone_crusher

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how in the world is that they run the same times??! i never said 2v are slow i simply said they are well matched and when raced it is a driver race. congrats on being a ignorant dil-hole

you sir are impossible, ignorance really is bliss though, and FWIW im pretty sure and srt-4 would pull a 2v especially with the same mods

HMUSN · May 5th, 2009, 03:56 PM

same mods huh? So I can install a turbo?

Ke^in · May 5th, 2009, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by WillKill

srt-4 would pull a 2v especially with the same mods

A SRT-4 with a turbo and intercooler basically matches a stock 2v GT in speed. How is it going to beat a GT if the GT puts a turbo in it? (Same mods) It's not going to even come close.

Originally Posted by HMUSN

same mods huh? So I can install a turbo?

Exactly. Mod for Mod an SRT isn't going to pull a GT. No way, no how.

May 5th, 2009, 12:12 PM	#24
1979rs/z28 Enthusiast 2002 Camaro SS 12.XX@11X?? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Beaufort NC Posts: 514 iTrader: 1 reviews	Skittles are hell to launch with no tire, its really hard get them going without spinning! I could def. get my mustang out of the hole harder! But on a side note when my buddy got a limited slip or whatever and few more bolt ons on his srt4 murdered me from a dead stop... __________________ 2006 GTO A4-13.3 2.1 60' Motor/12.0 1.7 60' 100 Shot otherwise stock

May 5th, 2009, 12:18 PM	#28
1979rs/z28 Enthusiast 2002 Camaro SS 12.XX@11X?? Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Beaufort NC Posts: 514 iTrader: 1 reviews	Yea wasnt the 1st year 03 or something i think thats what his was. It actually hooks ok now that hes got it so it launches on low boost now. __________________ 2006 GTO A4-13.3 2.1 60' Motor/12.0 1.7 60' 100 Shot otherwise stock

May 5th, 2009, 12:18 PM	#29
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	the srt's suck from a dig even with a good tire.. lol Tq steer ftl. __________________

May 5th, 2009, 02:29 PM	#33
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	true enough. Most people with skittles (and mustangs alike) are kids with little to no seat time. I see those things switch lanes off a street launch all the time. lol __________________

May 5th, 2009, 02:58 PM	#35
Ke^in Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,617 iTrader: 0 reviews	One of the reasons I have waited till I was in my 30s to get a fast car. I have plenty of experience in the shifting driving category. My only concern is the RWD in the snow.. __________________ I like to go to Subway because the women there have to make ME a sandwich.

May 5th, 2009, 03:01 PM	#36
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	that is why you buy a beater car. I picked up a Jeep wrangler 5 spd 4x4 for $2,200. __________________

May 5th, 2009, 03:56 PM	#39
HMUSN Doc 1986 SVO Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 36,836 iTrader: 9 reviews	same mods huh? So I can install a turbo? __________________

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