Is double clutching still relevant?

ChrisJ · April 19th, 2007, 10:33 PM

Its a 02 block...But that could be swapped for the teksid that I found a deal on last week...Still up in the air about the full build...Might just end up buying a MPH shortblock...Who knows...My old engine is tore down now so we will see...If I do go ahead and bite the bullet and build my own it will be close to what the MPH short-block...

No dyno numbers as of yet...Went to the dyno and it was going lean up top so we had to shut down...Sent my dyno shreet and chip back to MPH so Tim could tweak the tune...He sent it abck and I put it in and everything seems all good...Will get numbers after I install the intercooler in my room...400/400 is attainable with my set-up on a conservative tune...

bransdaman78 · April 19th, 2007, 10:37 PM

400/400 will come if not more, suprised your not there already a 12 psi, do you have a v2 or v1? Long tubes will help you also

as far as building the motor goes - you will get alot for more your money putting together on your own, I price a build out for 1000hp capable block, with heads that will turn 8k rpm with cams and its right around 6k installed - i know that seems higher, however when your talkin about a full out and complete race motor - thats pretty cheap.

ChrisJ · April 19th, 2007, 10:41 PM

Its all up in the air...Well the heads and cams are definately coming from MPH...And the block may as well...Mine is not really based on that much on the price savings on building my own its really the time it takes...I dont have alot of spare time...I will be installing it though...Its not that hard to do...

Plus my car needs to be close to MPH at the time becuase it will need to be tuned and TIM @ MPH is the only person that will tune my car...

I run a T-Trim V2...

bransdaman78 · April 19th, 2007, 10:49 PM

yea the infamous "tim" tune... lol

and why pray tell would your car be on a dyno... run lean (on the "tim" tune) and then mail the chip back to tim... that makes no sense whatsoever... I got you now and I see why you say the things you do. Im just gonna leave it at that.

have a nice night, and good luck with your car

ChrisJ · April 19th, 2007, 10:52 PM

LOL...

Its becuase every car is different...He fixed it and now it is fine...I sent it back to him becuase it is his kit on my car...It was his tune on my car...He had to change the tune for a few extra parts I had...

Do you really want to go there? Go to www.modularpowerhouse.com and talk that $hit...

I must really get under your skin...I guess becuase I am one of those kind of people...lol

Anyways this thread is whored ten ways to sunday...

Sorry about that...

MeZ · April 19th, 2007, 10:53 PM

Tim can kiss my ass .. I've seen his prices and what he puts out, and I can't see why so many people want to flock to him, if he's that great of a tuner .. awesome .. get the tune .. but the infamous " mongoose kits " please

ChrisJ · April 19th, 2007, 10:55 PM

I run a mongoose kit and love it...

Everything that you need to have your car up and running with a blower is included...

Blower
Piping
MAF
Injectors
Tune
Pulleys
Bolts
Nuts

Everything you need...

I know everyone has their own opinions and you are entitled to them...

-Chris

bransdaman78 · April 19th, 2007, 10:58 PM

yea they are over priced and over rated... i dont see how you had the car on a dyno... it went lean so you mailed it back to him for corrections?
thats a dead give away right there

MeZ · April 19th, 2007, 10:58 PM

Vortech Kits come pretty complete as they are, I guess some people are just more gullable than others ...

bransdaman78 · April 19th, 2007, 10:59 PM

that "tim" tune is the reason you not making 400 with 12lbs of freaking boost... omg, you should be hittin 430 or more

bransdaman78 · April 19th, 2007, 10:59 PM

but of course you dont have the cooler on yet, but still

ChrisJ · April 19th, 2007, 11:27 PM

I dont know what the car is making right now...I will know for sure when I get the intercooler on...

But remember with my exhaust and intercooler I will only see 9#'s or so on the gauge...

Yes the car was too lean up top...I give them that...I did not care for that part of it...But I shipped the chip back to him and he said the tune should ahve been dead on...So he fattened up still though...Then I cleaned...The MAF and it is all doing fine now...I am staying out of boost till I get my wideband installed...

$3948.95 - S-Trim Includes High-flow fuel pump, High-capacity fuel injectors and ECM chip or module

$3,900.00 - Votech SQ or S-Trim, MPH tune - with X-Cal-2 Flasher, focus fuel pump, 42# injectors, 90mm MAF, Spark plugs, IAT sensor

Hows that a rip off? The top price is right from vortech's site...I mean I know the people on modular fords dont care for Tim for some reason...But then again I am biased and i will admit that...But how many other places does KB GIVE blowers to test them and see what they can get out of them?

Im not trying to turn this into a tuner war I was just wondering...

bransdaman78 · April 19th, 2007, 11:41 PM

thats full retail...

MeZ · April 20th, 2007, 03:09 AM

I'm just sayin .. me and bran found smoking deals from people on ebay and the forums .. I would never buy direct from a site .. i'd rather spend 6 months looking for a deal rather than getting burned for a grand thats my only point ..

Casper98GT · April 20th, 2007, 12:03 PM

Chris give it up...these 2 jokers do nothing but cause trouble in here.

bransdaman78 · April 20th, 2007, 04:16 PM

yea we cause trouble by debating and establishing facts... good call casper

1slo5.0 · April 20th, 2007, 04:26 PM

I never wrecked a 3650 or a T5 by not "rev matching" or "double clutching".....whatever you want to call it. I have wrecked several from powershifting.

As far as in slow out fast, in fast out fast, in fast shove it up your ass....I don't race roundy round so I'll keep out of that.

I'm a pansy ass.....

MeZ · April 20th, 2007, 04:26 PM

Casper .. you're a mod right ... so you read everything .. 99% of my posts are valid ... I don't want to hear that "We're just in here to cause trouble

" because I'm NOT and I DON'T !!!

If I was here to cause trouble I'd go around telling everyone that I'm gonna kick their ass and that they are full of shit, which I don't ... so please

bransdaman78 · April 20th, 2007, 04:34 PM

exactly, you can go and check every post. we never start anything with anyone.

Casper98GT · April 20th, 2007, 04:57 PM

Grow up. Check all youre posts....i have. And im sick of it. This isnt a place to make people mad and cause arguments. I have been getting PM's about the two of you. I dont even bother posting back to anything you type anymore. Its not worth it.

April 19th, 2007, 10:33 PM	#61
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	Its a 02 block...But that could be swapped for the teksid that I found a deal on last week...Still up in the air about the full build...Might just end up buying a MPH shortblock...Who knows...My old engine is tore down now so we will see...If I do go ahead and bite the bullet and build my own it will be close to what the MPH short-block... No dyno numbers as of yet...Went to the dyno and it was going lean up top so we had to shut down...Sent my dyno shreet and chip back to MPH so Tim could tweak the tune...He sent it abck and I put it in and everything seems all good...Will get numbers after I install the intercooler in my room...400/400 is attainable with my set-up on a conservative tune... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

April 19th, 2007, 10:37 PM	#62
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	400/400 will come if not more, suprised your not there already a 12 psi, do you have a v2 or v1? Long tubes will help you also as far as building the motor goes - you will get alot for more your money putting together on your own, I price a build out for 1000hp capable block, with heads that will turn 8k rpm with cams and its right around 6k installed - i know that seems higher, however when your talkin about a full out and complete race motor - thats pretty cheap. __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 19th, 2007, 10:41 PM	#63
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	Its all up in the air...Well the heads and cams are definately coming from MPH...And the block may as well...Mine is not really based on that much on the price savings on building my own its really the time it takes...I dont have alot of spare time...I will be installing it though...Its not that hard to do... Plus my car needs to be close to MPH at the time becuase it will need to be tuned and TIM @ MPH is the only person that will tune my car... I run a T-Trim V2... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

April 19th, 2007, 10:49 PM	#64
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea the infamous "tim" tune... lol and why pray tell would your car be on a dyno... run lean (on the "tim" tune) and then mail the chip back to tim... that makes no sense whatsoever... I got you now and I see why you say the things you do. Im just gonna leave it at that. have a nice night, and good luck with your car __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 19th, 2007, 10:52 PM	#65
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	LOL... Its becuase every car is different...He fixed it and now it is fine...I sent it back to him becuase it is his kit on my car...It was his tune on my car...He had to change the tune for a few extra parts I had... Do you really want to go there? Go to www.modularpowerhouse.com and talk that $hit... I must really get under your skin...I guess becuase I am one of those kind of people...lol Anyways this thread is whored ten ways to sunday... Sorry about that... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

April 19th, 2007, 10:53 PM	#66
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 967 iTrader: 0 reviews	Tim can kiss my ass .. I've seen his prices and what he puts out, and I can't see why so many people want to flock to him, if he's that great of a tuner .. awesome .. get the tune .. but the infamous " mongoose kits " please __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

April 19th, 2007, 10:55 PM	#67
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	I run a mongoose kit and love it... Everything that you need to have your car up and running with a blower is included... Blower Piping MAF Injectors Tune Pulleys Bolts Nuts Everything you need... I know everyone has their own opinions and you are entitled to them... -Chris __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

April 19th, 2007, 10:58 PM	#68
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea they are over priced and over rated... i dont see how you had the car on a dyno... it went lean so you mailed it back to him for corrections? thats a dead give away right there __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 19th, 2007, 10:59 PM	#70
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	that "tim" tune is the reason you not making 400 with 12lbs of freaking boost... omg, you should be hittin 430 or more __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 19th, 2007, 11:27 PM	#72
ChrisJ RLY SRS Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Ft. Meade, MD Posts: 36,743 Blog Entries: 4 iTrader: 9 reviews	I dont know what the car is making right now...I will know for sure when I get the intercooler on... But remember with my exhaust and intercooler I will only see 9#'s or so on the gauge... Yes the car was too lean up top...I give them that...I did not care for that part of it...But I shipped the chip back to him and he said the tune should ahve been dead on...So he fattened up still though...Then I cleaned...The MAF and it is all doing fine now...I am staying out of boost till I get my wideband installed... $3948.95 - S-Trim Includes High-flow fuel pump, High-capacity fuel injectors and ECM chip or module $3,900.00 - Votech SQ or S-Trim, MPH tune - with X-Cal-2 Flasher, focus fuel pump, 42# injectors, 90mm MAF, Spark plugs, IAT sensor Hows that a rip off? The top price is right from vortech's site...I mean I know the people on modular fords dont care for Tim for some reason...But then again I am biased and i will admit that...But how many other places does KB GIVE blowers to test them and see what they can get out of them? Im not trying to turn this into a tuner war I was just wondering... __________________ 2008 Acura TL Type-S - 2008 EB Ford Expedition - 2002 Boosted GT - Sold Facebook Google+

April 19th, 2007, 11:41 PM	#73
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	thats full retail... __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 20th, 2007, 03:09 AM	#74
MeZ Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Concord, North Carolina Posts: 967 iTrader: 0 reviews	I'm just sayin .. me and bran found smoking deals from people on ebay and the forums .. I would never buy direct from a site .. i'd rather spend 6 months looking for a deal rather than getting burned for a grand thats my only point .. __________________ Car For Sale on Autotrader.com 04 Silver GT 32K Miles Parts 4 Sale: 18" Wheels SSR GT3 replicas w/ tires Steeda Tri-Ax 10lb N20 Bottle w. gauge (2) Kirkey Racing Seats w/ RCI 5 Pt. belts Steeda & Momo shift knobs SB GT Spoiler

April 20th, 2007, 12:03 PM	#75
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,395 iTrader: 0 reviews	Chris give it up...these 2 jokers do nothing but cause trouble in here. __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

April 20th, 2007, 04:16 PM	#76
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	yea we cause trouble by debating and establishing facts... good call casper __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 20th, 2007, 04:26 PM	#77
1slo5.0 MM Ninjas! 1990 Mustang LX 9.36@143 mph Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: North Fond du Lac, Wisconsin Posts: 11,375 iTrader: 1 reviews	I never wrecked a 3650 or a T5 by not "rev matching" or "double clutching".....whatever you want to call it. I have wrecked several from powershifting. As far as in slow out fast, in fast out fast, in fast shove it up your ass....I don't race roundy round so I'll keep out of that. I'm a pansy ass..... __________________ My daily driver has 16 cylinders and 4400hp @ 1000 rpm.... ***1988 Mustang GT - Stock....almost

April 20th, 2007, 04:34 PM	#79
bransdaman78 Regular Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 450 iTrader: 0 reviews	exactly, you can go and check every post. we never start anything with anyone. __________________ 03 GT leather seats for sale or trade for racing seats, Looking to buy: subframes, tower braces, control arms, bypass/BOV, 42# injectors & MAF Trade/ Sell Predator 4 SCT (wrong part of the country)

April 20th, 2007, 04:57 PM	#80
Casper98GT Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NEW HAMPSHIRE Posts: 2,395 iTrader: 0 reviews	Grow up. Check all youre posts....i have. And im sick of it. This isnt a place to make people mad and cause arguments. I have been getting PM's about the two of you. I dont even bother posting back to anything you type anymore. Its not worth it. __________________ 91 LX, 5spd. Ex:Toyota/Ford tech Marine Machinery Technician, Department of Defense.

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