Would I Be able to beat an eclipse?

2002_mach1_gt · October 28th, 2007, 05:57 PM

yeah my homeboy tj has the same eclipes they are fwd so he should get you from the start but around 25-40 you should come out on top so i agree race him and let us now who won!

X2RTION GT · November 24th, 2007, 03:44 AM

you didnt even say what engine you have but with your mods
v6-drivers race
v8-why r u even asking!?

X2RTION GT · November 24th, 2007, 03:49 AM

last post oct 28th!?
nevermind

thewayshemoves · December 1st, 2007, 07:09 AM

I hate when that happens...

tayboo24 · December 7th, 2007, 02:04 PM

i thing the stang comes out on top. those years of eclipses were slooooow. i think bishis gonna lose.

the misfit wolfie · January 26th, 2008, 12:56 AM

Originally Posted by Luvdmustang

id think so. the gt-s and the gsx are the ones to watch out for. cause ones turbo, and the other is turbo and awd.

the eclipse gt isnt turbo. it just has a v6, ang the gsx is tt and awd.

the misfit wolfie · January 26th, 2008, 12:58 AM

ha ha. post is old... ooops

prodrifterx · January 26th, 2008, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by the misfit wolfie

the eclipse gt isnt turbo. it just has a v6, ang the gsx is tt and awd.

and its a drivers rce for the v6 mustang vs v6 eclipse. i know...i raced a 3g v6 with my prev. v6 stang. won some and lost others.

old topic and post...but justa correction

up to '94 is gen 1 (eclipse/talon)

'95-'99 is gen 2 (eclipse/talon).
turbod talons are not signified bewteen awd or fwd. a TSI is the turbod model. ESI is the non turbo model.
eclsipes rs/gs are non turbo. gst is fwd turbo. gsx is awd turbo.

'00-'05 is gen 3
eclipse rs/gs is 4cyl. rated at 150hp/150trq (est)
eclipse gts/gt is 6cyl. rated at 200&215 hp/190trq (est)

i looked into them for awhile. and ex had a 3g. and we were both members of 3gforums/clubs. ima car nut.

Monark · January 26th, 2008, 02:42 PM

Originally Posted by 2002_mach1_gt

yeah my homeboy tj has the same eclipes they are fwd so he should get you from the start but around 25-40 you should come out on top so i agree race him and let us now who won!

Uh no. FWD is the worst launching platform for any car. The mustang should take the launch no questions asked.

SWEET2KSTANG · January 26th, 2008, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Monark

Uh no. FWD is the worst launching platform for any car. The mustang should take the launch no questions asked.

no, a fwd will hook harder than a rwd all day long.

Monark · January 26th, 2008, 07:41 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

no, a fwd will hook harder than a rwd all day long.

No it won't because when you launch weight is transfered to the back on the car. On the a RWD car it places the weight onto the rear wheels allowing them potentially hook better than anything. On a FWD car the weight is still transfered to the rear tires but they aren't the ones that put the power. Since the front wheels don't have weight on them they have a MUCH greater probability of spinning on a hard launch.

SWEET2KSTANG · January 26th, 2008, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by Monark

No it won't because when you launch weight is transfered to the back on the car. On the a RWD car it places the weight onto the rear wheels allowing them potentially hook better than anything. On a FWD car the weight is still transfered to the rear tires but they aren't the ones that put the power. Since the front wheels don't have weight on them they have a MUCH greater probability of spinning on a hard launch.

uh, no. fwd cars will always out hook a front engine rwd car. the wieght stays on top of the wheels no matter what. the intial transfer does not completely unload off the front wheels. there are a few reasons, weight distribution, torque #'s, hp #'s, etc. no matter how you look at it, a fwd has the advantage in a strait line.

Monark · January 26th, 2008, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

uh, no. fwd cars will always out hook a front engine rwd car. the wieght stays on top of the wheels no matter what. the intial transfer does not completely unload off the front wheels. there are a few reasons, weight distribution, torque #'s, hp #'s, etc. no matter how you look at it, a fwd has the advantage in a strait line.

So why aren't they used for drag cars?

01sta1k3r · January 26th, 2008, 10:01 PM

i raced like an 06 gt 5 speed and had no problem

nes · January 26th, 2008, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by SWEET2KSTANG

no, a fwd will hook harder than a rwd all day long.

HAHAHHAAHHAAHAHHAHAa

Monark · January 26th, 2008, 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by nes

HAHAHHAAHHAAHAHHAHAa

That's what I was thinking, I've never even seen a FWD that could do a 60 foot in less than 2 seconds.

SWEET2KSTANG · January 26th, 2008, 10:37 PM

depends on what all is done on the cars. i raced a few gtp's that pull me hard thru the 330. the fwd cars are all low on the torque and power side. if a fwd car had the same power #'s and close to equivelent weight on street tires, i will bet you anything that it will pull a street tire rwd car thru the 60 and maybe the 330. the last gtp i raced was pulling 1.8x 60's. just like if you were to launch on a wet road, who would launch better? the fwd.

Trent-04v6 · February 21st, 2008, 04:43 AM

Originally Posted by Monark

So why aren't they used for drag cars?

Because they don't hook harder lol.

FWD sucks for launchs.. anyways I have a 04 v6 I raced a 03?? eclipse GT-S Raped it in the launch lost at about 60-on..

FWD cars are jokes for drag racing.. since you "THINK" all those numbers you dropped are important... low end torque, weight distribution, and typical FWD cars have high revving motors.. = RWD FTW..

SWEET2KSTANG · February 21st, 2008, 05:47 AM

some of you idiots may think rwd's out hook fwd's, but if you go out and get 2 equal as possible cars, the fwd will always out hook. hard to drag fwd's for different reasons cv's dont like to hold, boost lag for lots of them, no torque, etc. sports cars have a hard time planting torque, and will always have traction issues. street tire to street tire, no comparisson.

mustangmanic · February 21st, 2008, 04:44 PM

if you have a v6 stang no... my mom has one and for a sixxer, that bitch hauls ass!!! its a 3.0V6 24v 200bhp and 205tq.... they're not slow at all for sixxers

October 28th, 2007, 05:57 PM	#21
2002_mach1_gt Newbie Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 48	yeah my homeboy tj has the same eclipes they are fwd so he should get you from the start but around 25-40 you should come out on top so i agree race him and let us now who won! __________________ 02 blk stang gt:CDC's Side Exhaust Side Rockers, a Set of Front & Rear Spatz, High Flow 2 1/2" Cat Back Exhaust System, Aluminum Tips,Dynomax Mufflers, 30 lbs fuel injecters, stage 3 racing clutch, cdc shaker www.fquick.com/gt_mached_out

December 1st, 2007, 07:09 AM	#24
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January 26th, 2008, 12:58 AM	#27
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January 26th, 2008, 10:37 PM	#37
SWEET2KSTANG MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt 12.01@114.69 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 4,011	depends on what all is done on the cars. i raced a few gtp's that pull me hard thru the 330. the fwd cars are all low on the torque and power side. if a fwd car had the same power #'s and close to equivelent weight on street tires, i will bet you anything that it will pull a street tire rwd car thru the 60 and maybe the 330. the last gtp i raced was pulling 1.8x 60's. just like if you were to launch on a wet road, who would launch better? the fwd. __________________ stock long block, bolt ons, slicks, and a little squeeze 1/4 E.T. 12.06@114.69 Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

November 24th, 2007, 03:44 AM	#22
X2RTION GT Regular 02 G-Thang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SO-CAL Posts: 107	you didnt even say what engine you have but with your mods v6-drivers race v8-why r u even asking!?

November 24th, 2007, 03:49 AM	#23
X2RTION GT Regular 02 G-Thang Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: SO-CAL Posts: 107	last post oct 28th!? nevermind

December 7th, 2007, 02:04 PM	#25
tayboo24 Regular 1993 talon tsi too slooow Join Date: May 2007 Location: alberta Posts: 115	i thing the stang comes out on top. those years of eclipses were slooooow. i think bishis gonna lose.

February 21st, 2008, 05:47 AM	#39
SWEET2KSTANG MM Fanatic 2000 mustang gt 12.01@114.69 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: N.W. AR Posts: 4,011	some of you idiots may think rwd's out hook fwd's, but if you go out and get 2 equal as possible cars, the fwd will always out hook. hard to drag fwd's for different reasons cv's dont like to hold, boost lag for lots of them, no torque, etc. sports cars have a hard time planting torque, and will always have traction issues. street tire to street tire, no comparisson. __________________ stock long block, bolt ons, slicks, and a little squeeze 1/4 E.T. 12.06@114.69 Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you: 1. Jesus Christ 2. The American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom.

February 21st, 2008, 04:44 PM	#40
mustangmanic Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.334 @ 106.57 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 2,492	if you have a v6 stang no... my mom has one and for a sixxer, that bitch hauls ass!!! its a 3.0V6 24v 200bhp and 205tq.... they're not slow at all for sixxers __________________ Accufab 75mm TB and Pleunm, JLT cai, Steeda Caster Chamber Plates, Eibach Sportline Springs, Tokico Shocks/Struts, FRPP Aluminum Driveshaft, FRPP 3.73's, Hooker LT's, Hooker O/R X, Pypes Violator Catback, SCT Xcal 2. 280rwhp

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