[BoostedMKIV]

Originally Posted by Jeff99gt god this is why i hate faggets that drive f bodies... or fagets whose dad drives and f-body they know nothing, fucking hicks. And the 350z's are weak as shit... the supra is not... but neithers the cobra... cobras a lot less expensive to... and lots of parts readily available in the us... cobra>supra.... the supra is badass though

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I think you meant to do it this way: <

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[WilltheThrill]

Originally Posted by SLP_WS6 TO TELL U THE TRUTH HE CAN TAKE ON U NO PROBLEM JUST YESTERDAY MY BUDDY RACED A DUDE FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD. A 05 NISSAN 350Z VS AN 06 MUSTANG GT AND THE Z TOOK HIM EVEN FROM A DIG. PUSSTANGS ARE DISAPPOINTING GM ALL DA WAY!!!!

Did u forget that the subject of this topic is a 07 GT and a 07 350Z? Not a 05 or 06.

[Luis_GT]

The 06 is fater than the 05 and the 07, Faster than the 05 cause it had some PCM issue (thought it was maybe a difference of 2-3hp) and faster than the 07 couse the 07 came stock with 3.31 gears instead of 3.55 on the 05-06

[86er]

Originally Posted by 07AlloyPony not that it matters at this point, but i drove a 06 350z and thought it was a piece of shit, a lot slower than they were talked up to be....also the rx8 is a turd. I like racing those little rx8's in my 07 V6

a v6 mustang owner calling something a piece of shit, Is lucifer wearing a cardigan???

[Obliv]

I understand he didnt put that in the lightest possible terms, 86, but calling a mustang v6 a pos is lamesauce.

[86er]

Originally Posted by Obliv I understand he didnt put that in the lightest possible terms, 86, but calling a mustang v6 a pos is lamesauce.

drive one

[ssnake86]

I would think the Z would have the edge if you were running against a 2007 one. The new VQ35HR motor puts down 20-25 more hp to the WHEELS then the previous years. Its not a mere 8hp, its more like 35hp. But its measured differently now cause of the new SAE standards.

That C&D article is complete BS, there contradicting themselves, they also call the engine the VQ35DE, not the HR, which is what is in the 07. In the newest issue of C&D they compare the 07 350z, Shelby Mustang GT(faster then the stock GT), RX-8, and Audi TT. The Z had the fastest track times, tied with the mustang on the 1/4 with a 13.7@104mph, the Z got a 5.2 0-60, and the stang got a 5.1 0-60. These numbers are waay different then that other C&D article, "fastest 2007 cars between 25K-30k"

Now isnt that the hugest contradiction ever? C&D doesnt know wtf they are talking about. were they even testing the 07? why did they call it the VQ35DE?

Basically though the 2007 350z and the Shelby Mustang GT are neck and neck, meaning your friend should beat you, pretty easily.

Also the new 2007 Z is getting constant 1/4 mile times of 13.3-13.4 stock, seen plenty of time slips. C&D drivers must suck too.

[banned]

you should beat the z, without much trouble really

[tenn2200]

Ok Ok, everyone here owns a mustang, I have an 07 350, and have also had the privelage of having a Saleen (05). I have drivin both cars quite a bit and they are quite close. First and foremost, This guy has been outrageously mis-imformed. "I went to the auto show in detriot 3 months ago talked to a nissan guy aboutt he 350 z an he said unless it was turbo it have like 180 or so to the rear... Meaning my car would beat it.. I would say you have that race.... Unless that guy was bullshiting me at the world premier auto show I would be mad cocky...". The car come stock with about 310 horses, quite a bit more than 180 is going to the rear my friend, Mine, personally, has full nismo exhaust, nothing more, and was dyno'd at 337 horse power. The saleen has 335 stock, none supercharged, and weighs a bit more. The major difference is the style of engine, the 350 needs to be kept higher in the Rpms, and the driver really needs to be used to driving that car to run it right, while the mustang is a little more forgiving. I'd definately say its a close race, but I'd watch out for the Z If it has any upgrades, they can be really fast cars, for very little money. By the way, the reason most people buy Z's, isnt for a straight line, take that solid axle mustang into a corner at speed and see who comes out on top...

[86er]

Originally Posted by tenn2200 Ok Ok, everyone here owns a mustang, I have an 07 350, and have also had the privelage of having a Saleen (05). I have drivin both cars quite a bit and they are quite close. First and foremost, This guy has been outrageously mis-imformed. "I went to the auto show in detriot 3 months ago talked to a nissan guy aboutt he 350 z an he said unless it was turbo it have like 180 or so to the rear... Meaning my car would beat it.. I would say you have that race.... Unless that guy was bullshiting me at the world premier auto show I would be mad cocky...". The car come stock with about 310 horses, quite a bit more than 180 is going to the rear my friend, Mine, personally, has full nismo exhaust, nothing more, and was dyno'd at 337 horse power. The saleen has 335 stock, none supercharged, and weighs a bit more. The major difference is the style of engine, the 350 needs to be kept higher in the Rpms, and the driver really needs to be used to driving that car to run it right, while the mustang is a little more forgiving. I'd definately say its a close race, but I'd watch out for the Z If it has any upgrades, they can be really fast cars, for very little money. By the way, the reason most people buy Z's, isnt for a straight line, take that solid axle mustang into a corner at speed and see who comes out on top...

the 280 hp versions were puttin down 230ish to the wheels, 337 that better be at the crank, (block horse power is stupid talk anyways, real numbers, usefule numbers are at the wheels.)

[tenn2200]

I really doubt, that a Rear wheel drive car is losing roughly 22% through their drive train. The mustang is the exact same layout as the z, except the z has a shorter chasis, therfore if anything it would loose less power in the first place. It doesnt matter which horse power you are talking about with these cars, as long as it's the same for both cars. you could measure the horse poser of a mustang at the crank and of a z at the crank, and the measure them at the wheels, and they would both be very close still. Lucky for us, Car and Driver Did a comparison, The Z got 3rd place and the shelby gt350 got 4th, I'm not going to argue with them, they know their cars. The 0-60 for the stang was 5.1, and the Z was 5.2, close, and the 0-110 was 15.5 for the stang, while the z was 15.4, very close in speed, but take into consideration the regular GT has 35 less horse power than the gt 350, and which puts the z up by six horse power, and nearly 200 less pounds. I wouldnt quite put my money on a stock Gt versus a stock Z. The Z is just the slightest faster in the quarter. And again, take into consideration the twisties, In which the Z was made to perform, not the straight line as the mustang. Dont get me wrong though, either way, I love both cars, they are flat out sick compared to just about any other car for the money, it's just the facts are the facts, and its a fun topic to disguss.
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[86er]

Originally Posted by tenn2200 I really doubt, that a Rear wheel drive car is losing roughly 22% through their drive train. The mustang is the exact same layout as the z, except the z has a shorter chasis, therfore if anything it would loose less power in the first place.

Same lay out has nothing to do with it. Just b/c they are both rwd, doesnt mean they lose the same amount of hp through the drivetrain.

Go google stock 350Z and see what they dyno, bolt ons and what not barely touch 240 to the wheels. Thats one of the biggest gripes from the owners, they lose so much through the drivetrain.

[tenn2200]

One question. Have you ever drove one?? I tend to think you havent, as to the fact you are saying this, remember there is also a 25hp difference in the 06 to the 07's. Regardless, of their so called power loss through their drive train, The bottom line is that the 07 Z car is faster than the 07 Mustang GT. So if you say that Z is only putting down 240rwhp or what ever, what would the stang be doing?? obviously it must be putting down even less, and you know as well as I do, that those figures are highly unlikely. Go and test drive one of these cars from a dealership, they will surprise you. And Im sure you'll like the 6 speed manual better than the very rough 5 speed hurst in the mustangs.

[tenn2200]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...f9016ce720.htm

[Obliv]

Ive driven both 07s, and the Z feels faster. Maybe because of its layout, cockpit feel, but it impressed me ahellva lot more then the current GT.

And for 86er, I own 07 v6 and im very happy with it. My first car was a 92 GT, and the new v6 outclasses it in every way.

So lucifer must be wearing a cardigan, whatever the fuck that means.

[tenn2200]

Yeah I definately agree, the new V6 is definitely better, looks amillion bucks, and has about the same power as the older V8. I think he meant that it was as dumb as the devil wearing a sweatshirt or something along those lines, never heard that saying either though. not the funniest... but oh well. And I definately agree with ssnake on That C&D discrepency, I dont, however think their drivers are that bad though... many times they have had mario andretti, one of the best drivers ever to live, test drive for them. I looked at the .PDF trial papers on their website from the test drivers themselves and it showed that the track conditions werent exactly Ideal, But It is a possibility that there was quite a bit of drivers error on their part, because I have seen many stock Z's and a few mustangs running in the low 13's.

[BoostedMKIV]

The 03-05 350Zs were putting down 287-300 to the crank, and 220-240 to the wheels.
I have, however, seen them go as high as 290-300 whp with NA mods alone, and they are fun as shit to drive.

Problem is, they are everywhere now...you know, like Mustangs.

*flamesuit ON*

:lala

[Obliv]

I dont have a problem with mustangs being everywhere. There will always be another car out there like yours stock anyway, who gives a fuck?

Just means a better aftermarket for me, meaning more ways to personalize my ride

And yes, the 350z was a fuckin BLAST to drive.

[07stanggt]

Originally Posted by tenn2200 One question. Have you ever drove one?? I tend to think you havent, as to the fact you are saying this, remember there is also a 25hp difference in the 06 to the 07's. Regardless, of their so called power loss through their drive train, The bottom line is that the 07 Z car is faster than the 07 Mustang GT. So if you say that Z is only putting down 240rwhp or what ever, what would the stang be doing?? obviously it must be putting down even less, and you know as well as I do, that those figures are highly unlikely. Go and test drive one of these cars from a dealership, they will surprise you. And Im sure you'll like the 6 speed manual better than the very rough 5 speed hurst in the mustangs.

Lmao. I have not been in this part of the site in a while. Good to see this thread still alive and kicking. The interesting part is that the person who started this thread already raced and beat the 350z.

To the guy above.... The real question is have you really driven an 07 stang gt. There is not a 25 horseporew difference, the new zs have 308. period. And for you to say the they are faster than the 07 gt mustang is just a stupid statement. It is funny though.... I have owned my mustang now for 6 months and ran sti's, evo's even played with an m5. But all these bad ass 350z's dont seem to be so confident when they are next to me at a light. And as for the vaunted z on the track I took my stang to summit point in west virginia last week. Posted about it in the 2005 section. I blew by a 350z. granted im not saying I should have but the fact of the matter is even on a road course you better know how to drive that z to talk shit about these new stangs. And in a straight line a z would get his ass kicked 9 times out of 10.

The stang is just and easier car to get more out of.

[86er]

Originally Posted by Obliv Ive driven both 07s, and the Z feels faster. Maybe because of its layout, cockpit feel, but it impressed me ahellva lot more then the current GT. And for 86er, I own 07 v6 and im very happy with it. My first car was a 92 GT, and the new v6 outclasses it in every way. So lucifer must be wearing a cardigan, whatever the fuck that means.

it was a different way of saying hell freezes over, now go put your nose in the corner till the adults are done talking.


You dont by a mustang for class, you buy a mustang to go fast, which is not what the v6 was intended to do.