Traction > Horsepower

Hunt_chevs · September 15th, 2008, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by 97mustanggt

aite thanx...is that only way...my friend tells me to put on foot on both brake and gas and and ease out the clutch while giving gas and applying brakes....

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

Problem with that is you run the risk of burning up your rear brakes.

i forgot to say that it is mandatory to let off the brakes as the tires are loose

97mustanggt · September 16th, 2008, 01:46 AM

oh i c...aite thanx man

gt_500 · October 3rd, 2008, 07:54 PM

Explain how subframe connectors help traction, The sway bar does essentially the same thing by making the car more solid, but I see many people deleting it because it allows the car to twist off of a launch instead of being solid and blowing up the tires everytime.

97mustanggt · October 8th, 2008, 04:14 PM

will a polyurethane transmission mount help my tranny not twist on hard takeoffs.... =]

Ke^in · May 3rd, 2009, 08:02 AM

Lost of great info here for a newb. Thanks.

ReverendDexter · May 3rd, 2009, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by gt_500

Explain how subframe connectors help traction, The sway bar does essentially the same thing by making the car more solid, but I see many people deleting it because it allows the car to twist off of a launch instead of being solid and blowing up the tires everytime.

I know this is an old thread, but Ke^in revived it, so I don't feel bad addressing this.

Sway bars do NOT make the car more solid. What they do is make the car resist roll, by tying the vertical motion of left and right wheels together. They add spring resistance against having the wheels at different "ride heights".

No matter how much swaybar you have, you're not resisting chassis flex. SFCs resist chassis flex relative to the chassis, swaybars resist the chassis "flexing" (in reality rolling) relative to the wheels. Any energy that's being used to torque the chassis out of shape is torque that's not being applied to the ground. However, if you retained the swaybar, when the chassis rotated (due to engine torque), you would lift a wheel off the ground, and reduce overall traction.

Ever ridden a hardtail mountain bike, then gone to a full-suspension bike? Same thing. As you pedal, more of the torque you apply with your legs gets to the pavement with the hardtail as you're not using it to flex the suspension.

Ke^in · May 4th, 2009, 01:28 PM

Sorry about reviving it... I am going to have to look at dates a bit better. My apologies. Having said that, what I said was true. It does have a ton of good info for newbs like me.

cmdr_anomic · May 4th, 2009, 06:30 PM

i love how people get bitched at about resurecting old threads; and bitched at for not searching through old threads lol

ReverendDexter · May 4th, 2009, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by cmdr_anomic

i love how people get bitched at about resurecting old threads; and bitched at for not searching through old threads lol

Oh, I wasn't complaining about the thread being revived.

Honestly, I'd rather see an old thread revived than a new thread posted asking the same question we've all seen a hundred times over.

I'm glad you found it informative, Ke^in.

Ke^in · May 4th, 2009, 07:45 PM

I've been reading a ton of old threads today because I had a lot of extra time at work. Learned a lot of stuff. Tried not to post to any that were old. I think I'll stay out of youtube for awhile. No matter what video I see, there are a bunch of GM bow-tards there pooping on teh party. I never understood that. I like Vettes and Camaros too. I simply want a Mustang more. (Well I can't afford a Vette

) I was actually thinking about buying a 2002 Z28, but i HATED the interior and over all feel of the car. Even if it is more HP and a bit faster than the 2004 GT.

97mustanggt · May 5th, 2009, 01:17 AM

camaros are ugly bro, got wit a mustang...and dont be afraid man ask any question and revive any thread you want.

Redux · May 5th, 2009, 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by cmdr_anomic

i love how people get bitched at about resurecting old threads; and bitched at for not searching through old threads lol

+1

So true....I hate it when people post new threads that would ovbiously be in the search...Like "what mods do I need for a turbo" or "Post pics of (insert car here)."

StangGT96 · May 26th, 2009, 05:10 PM

agreed. a ton of good info in this thread for a newer guy like myself.

Ke^in · May 31st, 2009, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by cmdr_anomic

i love how people get bitched at about resurecting old threads; and bitched at for not searching through old threads lol

Yeah .. I just got told by an admin not do resurrect old threads.. but yet we are bitched at for starting new ones about something that has been discussed before.

Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

97mustanggt · May 31st, 2009, 09:58 PM

u come out loosing either way..haha

BlueBloodedPony · June 5th, 2009, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Hunt_chevs

i most definitely have to agree. I read an article in mm&ff a while ago, and there was a guy with a 99 gt they did a little spread on. The guy was bone stocking the motor, but if i remember correctly had almost 10k into his suspension. Point being this guy pulled the front up on a stock motor

Okay, that's kinda sick, going to have to dig for that article, see if it has pix.

ApeXX · June 29th, 2009, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by WilltheThrill

dont do that if you race on regular street tires. just do a short burnout to clean em off.

You try to burnout too long on regular street tires and you'll end up with racing slicks before long. The tire really doesn't take long to heat up, imo...

NO_PI_NO_POWER · June 30th, 2009, 04:12 AM

If you want to see a battle of traction and horsepower. Check out the beast thread in the clubhouse. Watch the video of matt and I.

May 3rd, 2009, 08:02 AM	#25
Ke^in Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,607 iTrader: 0 reviews	Lost of great info here for a newb. Thanks. __________________ I like to go to Subway because the women there have to make ME a sandwich.

May 4th, 2009, 01:28 PM	#27
Ke^in Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,607 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sorry about reviving it... I am going to have to look at dates a bit better. My apologies. Having said that, what I said was true. It does have a ton of good info for newbs like me. __________________ I like to go to Subway because the women there have to make ME a sandwich.

May 4th, 2009, 07:45 PM	#30
Ke^in Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,607 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've been reading a ton of old threads today because I had a lot of extra time at work. Learned a lot of stuff. Tried not to post to any that were old. I think I'll stay out of youtube for awhile. No matter what video I see, there are a bunch of GM bow-tards there pooping on teh party. I never understood that. I like Vettes and Camaros too. I simply want a Mustang more. (Well I can't afford a Vette ) I was actually thinking about buying a 2002 Z28, but i HATED the interior and over all feel of the car. Even if it is more HP and a bit faster than the 2004 GT. __________________ I like to go to Subway because the women there have to make ME a sandwich.

May 5th, 2009, 01:17 AM	#31
97mustanggt Hardcore Enthusiast 97GT & 97Snake & 00L T.B.A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richgrove, Ca Posts: 2,183 iTrader: 0 reviews	camaros are ugly bro, got wit a mustang...and dont be afraid man ask any question and revive any thread you want. __________________ 97 Cobra & 00 Lightning Beauty & The Beast I rev next to hybrids so they can hear me kill the environment MM Cobra Club Member #77 MM Lightning Club Founder

May 31st, 2009, 09:58 PM	#35
97mustanggt Hardcore Enthusiast 97GT & 97Snake & 00L T.B.A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richgrove, Ca Posts: 2,183 iTrader: 0 reviews	u come out loosing either way..haha __________________ 97 Cobra & 00 Lightning Beauty & The Beast I rev next to hybrids so they can hear me kill the environment MM Cobra Club Member #77 MM Lightning Club Founder

September 16th, 2008, 01:46 AM	#22
97mustanggt Hardcore Enthusiast 97GT & 97Snake & 00L T.B.A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richgrove, Ca Posts: 2,183 iTrader: 0 reviews	oh i c...aite thanx man

October 3rd, 2008, 07:54 PM	#23
gt_500 Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 21 iTrader: 0 reviews	Explain how subframe connectors help traction, The sway bar does essentially the same thing by making the car more solid, but I see many people deleting it because it allows the car to twist off of a launch instead of being solid and blowing up the tires everytime.

October 8th, 2008, 04:14 PM	#24
97mustanggt Hardcore Enthusiast 97GT & 97Snake & 00L T.B.A Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Richgrove, Ca Posts: 2,183 iTrader: 0 reviews	will a polyurethane transmission mount help my tranny not twist on hard takeoffs.... =]

May 4th, 2009, 06:30 PM	#28
cmdr_anomic Enthusiast Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 629 iTrader: 0 reviews	i love how people get bitched at about resurecting old threads; and bitched at for not searching through old threads lol

May 26th, 2009, 05:10 PM	#33
StangGT96 Regular 2001 Mustang GT not sure yet! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: FL Posts: 246 iTrader: 0 reviews	agreed. a ton of good info in this thread for a newer guy like myself.

June 30th, 2009, 04:12 AM	#38
NO_PI_NO_POWER Granny Shifter 1997 Mustang GT 12.297@113.47 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Greeley, CO Posts: 752 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you want to see a battle of traction and horsepower. Check out the beast thread in the clubhouse. Watch the video of matt and I. __________________ 1997 GT 2.6L Kenne Bell Build Thread 1989 LX

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