Warning don't trust these guys

catchtheroadrunner · January 23rd, 2008, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Jgorm

I understand you are pissed about having a blown motor, especially if it was caused by a mistake to replace a fuse, but talking trash all over the internet is not always the best solution...

I disagree, this is exactly the kind of place to get that sort of satisfaction. Also, if you don't think about it as "talking trash" it'll seem more legitimate.

67/07 · January 23rd, 2008, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Jgorm

I understand you are pissed about having a blown motor, especially if it was caused by a mistake to replace a fuse, but talking trash all over the internet is not always the best solution. The tuning industry is pretty small, word gets around quick, and problematic customers get "marked". Personally I'm not a fan of the BAP and would rather upgrade the fuel system.

When he posted this I quit reading his shit

catchtheroadrunner · January 23rd, 2008, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by 67/07

When he posted this I quit reading his shit

That's pretty tame. Sounds like KB is pounding nails through the end of his baseball bat in case he get's JMS'd.

But give the critic credit for trying to keep everything positive.

67/07 · January 25th, 2008, 12:38 PM

The only thing I did wrong was trust jms
How else is it my fault? when I give JMS well over 10 grand and they gave me a blown motor with a tubro that leaks oil?
It is the tuners fault only and no body else.
JMS sucks bottom line.
If you don't believe that send them your money.
I'd burn mine first.
Thats 10 grand with out the money I sent mmr for my motor.

8t6gt · January 25th, 2008, 02:57 PM

Interesting. Dont take it back there

67/07 · January 26th, 2008, 03:06 PM

Right, only for the planned drive by

catchtheroadrunner · January 26th, 2008, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by 67/07

Right, only for the planned drive by

If you're willing to make a second stop, I'll car pool on the drive by.

67/07 · January 27th, 2008, 10:04 PM

You got your own piece or should I bring my spare

67/07 · January 29th, 2008, 09:14 PM

DON’T GET RIPPED OFF! Unlike some ‘OTHER’ companies, JMS supplies our customers with 3 Dyno Proven Custom Tunes, specifically calibrated for YOUR
vehicle! You DON’T pay EXTRA for the tune files and if your not happy with our tune, we will work with you to MAKE it right!

I got ripped off and they did not make it right

06RedfireGT · January 29th, 2008, 09:41 PM

Sue them for false advertisment.

05mustang_kb_charged · January 30th, 2008, 09:18 AM

67/07

i posted that up 8 days ago...WTF.... you don't read my post

j/j

did you even talk back with them? are they going to do anything to rectafy the situation?

like a FREE dyno tune?

catchtheroadrunner · January 30th, 2008, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by 05mustang_kb_charged

67/07

i posted that up 8 days ago...WTF.... you don't read my post j/j

did you even talk back with them? are they going to do anything to rectafy the situation?

like a FREE dyno tune?

LOL, come on KB. Didn't they destroy his mill and $10,000 in mods attached to it?

I'd ask for at least two dyno tunes.

EVIL5LITER · January 30th, 2008, 10:45 AM

This will be the only post I make on this matter, just to clarify our side of the story.

We installed a Hellion turbo kit on Tim's car. The turbo did leak, but it was around the fitting from the factory when it was installed from Turbonetics. We attempted to fix it twice but was not able to get it repaired.

Tim popped his stock motor on the day he picked it up, but it was not due to tuning issues, it broke a rod. No tuner on this earth can tune around a weak rod. We had the car neutered to try and prevent this, and it still did it. Because we felt bad about Tim's luck, we gave him a discounted labor rate (to basically cost) to install his new motor.

When Tim purchased his motor from MMR, he misrepresented himself as an employee of our company to try and get a discount on the motor. We found out when we got a pissed off phone call from MMR wanting to know why this guy was such a dick and why we employed him. Once we clarified he did not work for us, they understood.

I encourage ANYONE on this board to call up MMR and speak to Chris for his opinion on Tim XXXXX. He'll tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Tim's car did burn a few spark plugs with the new MMR motor. With 8 degrees of timing and 11.5:1 a/f ratio. These cars have to be dialed back so far because of the shit spark plugs. Come to find out that after we installed the motor and gave it to him (before the dyno tune, as MMR wanted him to put 500 miles on the motor before going WOT), he admitted to us at the dyno tune that he had taken the car out that weekend and beat the piss out of it, with no tune in the car other than a drive around tune ONLY.

We discovered the damage on the motor and removed it (at the discounted labor rate at our cost, again) and sent it to MMR. MMR agreed that it was not a tuning issue, but still covered the warranty on the engine because they thought that would be best route to take, due to the customer being irate and irritable.

It was at this time that Tim ordered the Level 10 transmission. He again misrepresented himself as an employee of this company in order to get a discount. We found out about it, again, from Level 10 owner, who knows Chris personally.

Same deal as before, car was tuned, dialed back heavily, and released to Tim. Damage occured to the motor, and at this point we and Tim agreed to part ways.

We have always, ALWAYS stood behind our work. If an engine lets go due to improper tuning or assembly, we have always fixed it at no charge. We actually had a bolt fall into a intake port that went unnoticed due to a head swap (it was a broken bolt head), and it was sucked into a brand new 5.4 JLP motor. We sent the motor to Al Pappito in South Florida (after giving the customer the option of us buying him a brand new motor from JLP, or sending it to Boss 330), and had Al go through the whole motor. He actually found many flaws in the motor that had occured from JLP, but it wasn't determined if it was accidental or intentional. We payed for the entire motor to be gone through (not just the stuff we did, but also the stuff that was flawed from JLP's build, such as a block with a cracked cylinder liner), and installed the engine for free. Cost to us was approximately 10k, counting parts, shipping, and lost income from labor. The customer is still happy with it, and his truck is still going strong at 750rwhp.

And as a final warning to Tim, who has ignorantly threatened violence against a business on the internet, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Especially with your legal issues.

EVIL5LITER · January 30th, 2008, 10:45 AM

Sorry, couldn't put the link in the first post.

05mustang_kb_charged · January 30th, 2008, 10:59 AM

^^^ ouch long post,head hurts

glad you got on here and stated your side of the story

NOW FOR THE MAIN EVENT OF THE EVENING!!

THE CHAMPION 67/07 WIEGHING IN AT 200 POUNDS WITH AN INTERNET RECORD OF 75 POSTS ON MODDED MMMMMUSTANGS!!!!!!

AND THE CONTENDER EVIL5LITER WIEGHING IN AT 200 POUNDS WITH AN INTERNET RECORD OF 2 POSTS ON MODDED MMMMMUSTANGS!!!!

WE WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THIS BOUT IS SCHEDULED FOR NUMEROUS RANTING POST AND SPONSORED BY MICKEY'S FINE MALT LIQUOR. MMMM LOVE ME SOME MICKEY'S.

I WANT A CLEAN ARGUEMENT AND LEAVE THE OLD DIRT ON THE SHELF WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS MISHAP!!!

LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:popco rn

05mustang_kb_charged · January 30th, 2008, 11:02 AM

TIME!!!!

-1 POINT FOR EVIL5LITER FOR BRINGING UP USELESS SHIT

LET'S GO!!!!!

EVIL5LITER · January 30th, 2008, 11:09 AM

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05mustang_kb_charged · January 30th, 2008, 11:15 AM

so EVIL5LITER his car broke because of the above post...........

stick to the fucking point about the car, nobody needs to come air out someone's dirty laundry on here, we are discussing his car not his personal life

07torchgt · January 30th, 2008, 12:43 PM

Oh wow... I will be watching this one... haha

05mustang_kb_charged · January 30th, 2008, 01:33 PM

yeah i am enjoying too

January 25th, 2008, 12:38 PM	#44
67/07 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 75	The only thing I did wrong was trust jms How else is it my fault? when I give JMS well over 10 grand and they gave me a blown motor with a tubro that leaks oil? It is the tuners fault only and no body else. JMS sucks bottom line. If you don't believe that send them your money. I'd burn mine first. Thats 10 grand with out the money I sent mmr for my motor. Last edited by 67/07 : January 25th, 2008 at 12:40 PM.

January 25th, 2008, 02:57 PM	#45
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January 30th, 2008, 09:18 AM	#51
05mustang_kb_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 11.83@118.67 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 1,645	67/07 i posted that up 8 days ago...WTF.... you don't read my post j/j did you even talk back with them? are they going to do anything to rectafy the situation? like a FREE dyno tune? __________________ A Couple Bolt-Ons and GOOD Air 585 rwhp and 515 rwtq on 16 psi. and 15 degrees of timing F/I Crew Member #1 KENNE BELL Crew Member #1 Click Here>>http://www.twinscrewracing.com/

January 30th, 2008, 10:45 AM	#53
EVIL5LITER Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3	This will be the only post I make on this matter, just to clarify our side of the story. We installed a Hellion turbo kit on Tim's car. The turbo did leak, but it was around the fitting from the factory when it was installed from Turbonetics. We attempted to fix it twice but was not able to get it repaired. Tim popped his stock motor on the day he picked it up, but it was not due to tuning issues, it broke a rod. No tuner on this earth can tune around a weak rod. We had the car neutered to try and prevent this, and it still did it. Because we felt bad about Tim's luck, we gave him a discounted labor rate (to basically cost) to install his new motor. When Tim purchased his motor from MMR, he misrepresented himself as an employee of our company to try and get a discount on the motor. We found out when we got a pissed off phone call from MMR wanting to know why this guy was such a dick and why we employed him. Once we clarified he did not work for us, they understood. I encourage ANYONE on this board to call up MMR and speak to Chris for his opinion on Tim XXXXX. He'll tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Tim's car did burn a few spark plugs with the new MMR motor. With 8 degrees of timing and 11.5:1 a/f ratio. These cars have to be dialed back so far because of the shit spark plugs. Come to find out that after we installed the motor and gave it to him (before the dyno tune, as MMR wanted him to put 500 miles on the motor before going WOT), he admitted to us at the dyno tune that he had taken the car out that weekend and beat the piss out of it, with no tune in the car other than a drive around tune ONLY. We discovered the damage on the motor and removed it (at the discounted labor rate at our cost, again) and sent it to MMR. MMR agreed that it was not a tuning issue, but still covered the warranty on the engine because they thought that would be best route to take, due to the customer being irate and irritable. It was at this time that Tim ordered the Level 10 transmission. He again misrepresented himself as an employee of this company in order to get a discount. We found out about it, again, from Level 10 owner, who knows Chris personally. Same deal as before, car was tuned, dialed back heavily, and released to Tim. Damage occured to the motor, and at this point we and Tim agreed to part ways. We have always, ALWAYS stood behind our work. If an engine lets go due to improper tuning or assembly, we have always fixed it at no charge. We actually had a bolt fall into a intake port that went unnoticed due to a head swap (it was a broken bolt head), and it was sucked into a brand new 5.4 JLP motor. We sent the motor to Al Pappito in South Florida (after giving the customer the option of us buying him a brand new motor from JLP, or sending it to Boss 330), and had Al go through the whole motor. He actually found many flaws in the motor that had occured from JLP, but it wasn't determined if it was accidental or intentional. We payed for the entire motor to be gone through (not just the stuff we did, but also the stuff that was flawed from JLP's build, such as a block with a cracked cylinder liner), and installed the engine for free. Cost to us was approximately 10k, counting parts, shipping, and lost income from labor. The customer is still happy with it, and his truck is still going strong at 750rwhp. And as a final warning to Tim, who has ignorantly threatened violence against a business on the internet, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Especially with your legal issues. Last edited by Juggalo_X : January 30th, 2008 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Removed a users name. No reason to post personal info.

January 30th, 2008, 10:45 AM	#54
EVIL5LITER Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3	Sorry, couldn't put the link in the first post. Last edited by Juggalo_X : January 30th, 2008 at 02:22 PM. Reason: Removed Users Personal info. His wrap sheet is no business of ours.

January 26th, 2008, 03:06 PM	#46
67/07 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 75	Right, only for the planned drive by

January 27th, 2008, 10:04 PM	#48
67/07 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 75	You got your own piece or should I bring my spare

January 29th, 2008, 09:14 PM	#49
67/07 Regular Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 75	DON’T GET RIPPED OFF! Unlike some ‘OTHER’ companies, JMS supplies our customers with 3 Dyno Proven Custom Tunes, specifically calibrated for YOUR vehicle! You DON’T pay EXTRA for the tune files and if your not happy with our tune, we will work with you to MAKE it right! I got ripped off and they did not make it right

January 30th, 2008, 10:59 AM	#55
05mustang_kb_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 11.83@118.67 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 1,645	^^^ ouch long post,head hurts glad you got on here and stated your side of the story NOW FOR THE MAIN EVENT OF THE EVENING!! THE CHAMPION 67/07 WIEGHING IN AT 200 POUNDS WITH AN INTERNET RECORD OF 75 POSTS ON MODDED MMMMMUSTANGS!!!!!! AND THE CONTENDER EVIL5LITER WIEGHING IN AT 200 POUNDS WITH AN INTERNET RECORD OF 2 POSTS ON MODDED MMMMMUSTANGS!!!! WE WOULD LIKE TO REMIND THIS BOUT IS SCHEDULED FOR NUMEROUS RANTING POST AND SPONSORED BY MICKEY'S FINE MALT LIQUOR. MMMM LOVE ME SOME MICKEY'S. I WANT A CLEAN ARGUEMENT AND LEAVE THE OLD DIRT ON THE SHELF WE WANT TO HEAR ABOUT THIS MISHAP!!! LET'S GET IT ON!!!!!!!!!!!!! :popco rn __________________ A Couple Bolt-Ons and GOOD Air 585 rwhp and 515 rwtq on 16 psi. and 15 degrees of timing F/I Crew Member #1 KENNE BELL Crew Member #1 Click Here>>http://www.twinscrewracing.com/

January 30th, 2008, 11:02 AM	#56
05mustang_kb_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 11.83@118.67 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 1,645	TIME!!!! -1 POINT FOR EVIL5LITER FOR BRINGING UP USELESS SHIT LET'S GO!!!!! __________________ A Couple Bolt-Ons and GOOD Air 585 rwhp and 515 rwtq on 16 psi. and 15 degrees of timing F/I Crew Member #1 KENNE BELL Crew Member #1 Click Here>>http://www.twinscrewracing.com/

January 30th, 2008, 11:09 AM	#57
EVIL5LITER Newbie Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 3	deleted Last edited by Juggalo_X : January 30th, 2008 at 02:20 PM. Reason: dont post that shit in here.

January 30th, 2008, 11:15 AM	#58
05mustang_kb_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 11.83@118.67 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 1,645	so EVIL5LITER his car broke because of the above post........... stick to the fucking point about the car, nobody needs to come air out someone's dirty laundry on here, we are discussing his car not his personal life __________________ A Couple Bolt-Ons and GOOD Air 585 rwhp and 515 rwtq on 16 psi. and 15 degrees of timing F/I Crew Member #1 KENNE BELL Crew Member #1 Click Here>>http://www.twinscrewracing.com/

January 30th, 2008, 12:43 PM	#59
07torchgt Regular Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 100	Oh wow... I will be watching this one... haha

January 30th, 2008, 01:33 PM	#60
05mustang_kb_charged Hardcore Enthusiast 2005 Mustang GT 11.83@118.67 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: LSU Country Posts: 1,645	yeah i am enjoying too __________________ A Couple Bolt-Ons and GOOD Air 585 rwhp and 515 rwtq on 16 psi. and 15 degrees of timing F/I Crew Member #1 KENNE BELL Crew Member #1 Click Here>>http://www.twinscrewracing.com/

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