[Vettefast]

Just to let everyone know I forwarded this thread to JMS to get both sides.

[05mustang_kb_charged]

there already on here read 1 page back Screen name EVIL5LITER

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by EVIL5LITER This will be the only post I make on this matter, just to clarify our side of the story. We installed a Hellion turbo kit on Tim's car. The turbo did leak, but it was around the fitting from the factory when it was installed from Turbonetics. We attempted to fix it twice but was not able to get it repaired. Tim popped his stock motor on the day he picked it up, but it was not due to tuning issues, it broke a rod. No tuner on this earth can tune around a weak rod. We had the car neutered to try and prevent this, and it still did it. Because we felt bad about Tim's luck, we gave him a discounted labor rate (to basically cost) to install his new motor. When Tim purchased his motor from MMR, he misrepresented himself as an employee of our company to try and get a discount on the motor. We found out when we got a pissed off phone call from MMR wanting to know why this guy was such a dick and why we employed him. Once we clarified he did not work for us, they understood. I encourage ANYONE on this board to call up MMR and speak to Chris for his opinion on Tim XXXXX. He'll tell you the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Tim's car did burn a few spark plugs with the new MMR motor. With 8 degrees of timing and 11.5:1 a/f ratio. These cars have to be dialed back so far because of the shit spark plugs. Come to find out that after we installed the motor and gave it to him (before the dyno tune, as MMR wanted him to put 500 miles on the motor before going WOT), he admitted to us at the dyno tune that he had taken the car out that weekend and beat the piss out of it, with no tune in the car other than a drive around tune ONLY. We discovered the damage on the motor and removed it (at the discounted labor rate at our cost, again) and sent it to MMR. MMR agreed that it was not a tuning issue, but still covered the warranty on the engine because they thought that would be best route to take, due to the customer being irate and irritable. It was at this time that Tim ordered the Level 10 transmission. He again misrepresented himself as an employee of this company in order to get a discount. We found out about it, again, from Level 10 owner, who knows Chris personally. Same deal as before, car was tuned, dialed back heavily, and released to Tim. Damage occured to the motor, and at this point we and Tim agreed to part ways. We have always, ALWAYS stood behind our work. If an engine lets go due to improper tuning or assembly, we have always fixed it at no charge. We actually had a bolt fall into a intake port that went unnoticed due to a head swap (it was a broken bolt head), and it was sucked into a brand new 5.4 JLP motor. We sent the motor to Al Pappito in South Florida (after giving the customer the option of us buying him a brand new motor from JLP, or sending it to Boss 330), and had Al go through the whole motor. He actually found many flaws in the motor that had occured from JLP, but it wasn't determined if it was accidental or intentional. We payed for the entire motor to be gone through (not just the stuff we did, but also the stuff that was flawed from JLP's build, such as a block with a cracked cylinder liner), and installed the engine for free. Cost to us was approximately 10k, counting parts, shipping, and lost income from labor. The customer is still happy with it, and his truck is still going strong at 750rwhp. And as a final warning to Tim, who has ignorantly threatened violence against a business on the internet, people who live in glass houses should not throw stones. Especially with your legal issues.

You still didnt address the claims he made of his car failing on the dyno. also wanted to note there is more then one user here that says your tuning methods/workmanship damaged there ride.

[Vettefast]

Originally Posted by Juggalo_X You still didnt address the claims he made of his car failing on the dyno. also wanted to note there is more then one user here that says your tuning methods/workmanship damaged there ride.

Do you have any watchdog Child Molester information them too?

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by Vettefast Do you have any watchdog Child Molester information them too?

no, dont think MM is the place for that. also could have been him, maybe not. there is a possibility of there being more then one person with that name.

[stroker408]

bump

[RanGer498]

sounds like these guy's @ JMS are newbs to what they are doing and using others cars a test beds .

[Cithillen]

Hello my friends

[HMUSN]

welcome

[Smoothgrandmama]

I'm confused.

But Bashing is not the answer for either side.

Submit a Proffesional Review Of Your experience with the Company and Let us Take it for what it is.

Then Pursue your Legal Matters with this Company.

What goes around comes around.

[winnie51189]

good idea vette. every story has two sides.
+1

[catchtheroadrunner]

Originally Posted by Trick Tuners The tuning industry is pretty small, word gets around quick, and problematic customers get "marked". Personally I'm not a fan of the BAP and would rather upgrade the fuel system.

that's some freaky, paranoid, cold war talk right there.

I don't believe tuners "mark" anybody. I'm also pretty sure they follow good business ediquette; They'll happily fix other's mistakes but would never trash talk them. They probably know the scoop before we do.

[99blkcobra]

sucks, ive experienced with a bad shop. money doesnt grow from trees or not for me anyways

[G.T. Rags]

Originally Posted by catchtheroadrunner that's some freaky, paranoid, cold war talk right there. I don't believe tuners "mark" anybody. I'm also pretty sure they follow good business ediquette; They'll happily fix other's mistakes but would never trash talk them. They probably know the scoop before we do.

wanna bet?

i can name 10 locals off the top of my head that are banned from local performance shops for being douche bags.

when u do performance work to any car, there is always a chance that something might not go right. Sometimes the motors have weak points, bad parts, or are generally to worn.

i personally woundlt do any business with the OP, especially about hearing how he impersonated employees trying to obtain discounts.

[Youngin]

either sides could be making shit up.. i do not know 100% but this story doesn't add up..

[G.T. Rags]

run a search on the OP's past threads and posts.....

he's a hot head and tried stirring shit up on the forum last year.....

[winnie51189]

Originally Posted by G.T. Rags run a search on the OP's past threads and posts..... he's a hot head and tried stirring shit up on the forum last year.....

^True I searched him myself just to verify

[catchtheroadrunner]

Originally Posted by G.T. Rags wanna bet? i can name 10 locals off the top of my head that are banned from local performance shops for being douche bags. when u do performance work to any car, there is always a chance that something might not go right. Sometimes the motors have weak points, bad parts, or are generally to worn. i personally woundlt do any business with the OP, especially about hearing how he impersonated employees trying to obtain discounts.

Yeah, if they're douche bags. But just being an unhappy customer (assuming) doesn't get you labelled in the circle.

[catchtheroadrunner]

67/, did you do the underhanded things that evil accused you of, i.e. pretending to be an employee, TWICE, to get discounts?

To Evil, if you knew he did this once to get the motor, why didn't you severe the relationship right there? Or did you not find out he did this twice (tranny) until all was said and done?

[G.T. Rags]

Originally Posted by catchtheroadrunner 67/, did you do the underhanded things that evil accused you of, i.e. pretending to be an employee, TWICE, to get discounts? To Evil, if you knew he did this once to get the motor, why didn't you severe the relationship right there? Or did you not find out he did this twice (tranny) until all was said and done?

this thread is over a year old so don't expect replies