[Steve O]

hi i have a friend of mine thats always challenging me to race him he has a bone stock 97 bmw m3 and i have a bone stock 00 mustang but we still havent had any chance to race so who do u think will win? both of us are pretty good drivers so i hink it might be rlly close u guys tell me what you think

[HMUSN]

it would be close.

you out power him

but he has Great suspension and isn't far behind in power

[86er]

not by much 97 had 240 at the crank.

Those cars will ring up low low low 14's all day long.

Once you get that M3 up to speed in the rpms, it gets a lot stronger.

I would bet they are lighter too

[breakout831]

I would race him from a dig...you probably have more torque then him

[86er]

inline sixes make decent torque, This one is gonna be driver.

[breakout831]

1997 m3 produces 236 lb torque. Like i said...race him from a dig and you will out torque him.

[HMUSN]

I 'm a mustang guy but even though you outpower him it will be a very close race.

[86er]

Originally Posted by breakout831 1997 m3 produces 236 lb torque. Like i said...race him from a dig and you will out torque him.

yeah, b/c a sohc gt makes stump pulling torque off idle.


It will a lot closer, out of the hole than one thinks if the M3 driver knows what hes doing.

[breakout831]

Originally Posted by 86er Originally Posted by breakout831 1997 m3 produces 236 lb torque. Like i said...race him from a dig and you will out torque him. yeah, b/c a sohc gt makes stump pulling torque off idle. It will a lot closer, out of the hole than one thinks if the M3 driver knows what hes doing.

torque off of idle if it's an automatic

What about if the GT driver knows what he's doing? Why are you favoring the M3 driver? Because you figure he has skill just because he had the money to buy the car?

[04GTAMPA]

You have him, I'm telling you from previous experience with my Linc LS. I would say he's got you on top end, but go from a dig and don't spin too much or it will be too close of a race. They start pulling hard after 3rd gear all the way up...

[86er]

Originally Posted by breakout831 Originally Posted by 86er Originally Posted by breakout831 1997 m3 produces 236 lb torque. Like i said...race him from a dig and you will out torque him. yeah, b/c a sohc gt makes stump pulling torque off idle. It will a lot closer, out of the hole than one thinks if the M3 driver knows what hes doing. torque off of idle if it's an automatic What about if the GT driver knows what he's doing? Why are you favoring the M3 driver? Because you figure he has skill just because he had the money to buy the car?

have you ever driven an auto gt with a sohc behind it, not the snappiest off the line.

Secondly ive seen a bunch of m3's of that model go 14.2 stock at almost 99 mph.

[breakout831]

what year m3? anything 2000 and up will definately rape an auto gt of his year. I'm not trying to pick a fight or make you look bad or anything 86er..i'm just trying to reason with you.

[86er]

Im tryin to show folks, sohc mustangs are beatable, and believe it or not a car with less cylinders will/can do it too

[flattusmaximus78]

I saw one 97 in prime condition with a good driver go 14.7 at the track.

[ByPopularDemand]

Those are awesome cars...this one is a drivers race

[86er]

Originally Posted by flattusmaximus78 I saw one 97 in prime condition with a good driver go 14.7 at the track.

that wasnt a good driver, dyno operator here in birmingham, has a bone stock 97 and he has a stack of slips 14.1-4 at 98mph

[flattusmaximus78]

Didn't pay attention to much to the run... just saying what I saw.