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Old July 20th, 2007, 10:47 PM   #1
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03 Ram 1500 vs 07 GT


Ok, so stock vs stock, there's no contest, but who would win between a stock GT and an 03 Ram with a super charger, CAI, and a mod chip? Will that s/c be enough to make up the 1 second quarter mile difference between the cars?
 
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It depends on what psi that blower is running at. If it's a typical street application running 8-10 psi, it will have added roughly 100 hp, perhaps a bit more depending on the chip & CAI.
Figure that for every 10 horse added, you gain approximately 1/10th second in the 1/4, so it's very possible that truck will smoke you now, provided he can get it to hook up.
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Actually I think You'd Smoke Him
The 2004 Ford lightning only runs a 13.8 drag time
And the dodge srt 10 pickup with 500 hp only runs a 13.6
And these are performance trucks Gears, tranny's, and tires
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unless He has a blown hemi You should smoke him
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With a supercharger, he will add you to his kill list- especailly if you go from a roll.
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Re: 03 Ram 1500 vs 07 GT


Originally Posted by AnimalCrackers
Will that s/c be enough to make up the 1 second quarter mile difference between the cars?
Correct me if I'm wrong but I've never heard of an 03 ram 1500 stock going 14.5 in the quarter. Possibly the diesel but were talking about a gas motor here right? Those trucks cant be faster than 15's stock. Then again I'm too lazy right now to look up the actual numbers so that was just a guesstimate.

I think even with a supercharger you will still get him, especially on the top end.
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The Dodge truck will run about a 15.6 stock. C'mon, we're talking about moving about 7400 lbs. here.
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Originally Posted by acmillr
The Dodge truck will run about a 15.6 stock. C'mon, we're talking about moving about 7400 lbs. here.
they only weigh about 6300-6600lbs depend on the cab and bed
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Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop
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The Dodge truck will run about a 15.6 stock. C'mon, we're talking about moving about 7400 lbs. here.
they only weigh about 6300-6600lbs depend on the cab and bed
And the 6 Speed Srt 10 only weighs 5100lbs And it still only runs a 13.6 on 295's in the rear with a 500 hp 8.3 liter engine With 4.10 gears...... That Truck will lose.
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Re: 03 Ram 1500 vs 07 GT


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Ok, so stock vs stock, there's no contest, but who would win between a stock GT and an 03 Ram with a super charger, CAI, and a mod chip? Will that s/c be enough to make up the 1 second quarter mile difference between the cars?
There's a whole lot more than a second to make up here!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Smoothgrandmama
Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop
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The Dodge truck will run about a 15.6 stock. C'mon, we're talking about moving about 7400 lbs. here.
they only weigh about 6300-6600lbs depend on the cab and bed
And the 6 Speed Srt 10 only weighs 5100lbs And it still only runs a 13.6 on 295's in the rear with a 500 hp 8.3 liter engine With 4.10 gears...... That Truck will lose.
i never said it would win
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I had made some preliminary half-hearted Google searches during my discussion with my friend about this and saw approximate RAM times of 14.8 and the GT at 13.6. Those were the numbers I ran with, though I think the RAM used in the test had the CAI and chip, minus the supercharger. This may account for the slightly faster time than the stocks? This whole discussion sprung from my friend stating that his truck could beat my stock GT. I generally laughed at it, and after a few searches and mentions of what mods he had on it, I realized it could actually be a close matchup and wanted to check with the more knowledgeable people here before "writing any checks my ass can't cash"
 
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If it's a shortbox 1500 with a Hemi, it most definitely could be a close race. The truck only weighs approximately 4800 lbs, depending how it's spec'd out. Drive it across a public scale if you don't believe me. I've been driving trucks for 20 years. I have been weighing things that go in trailers, on flatbeds, and in tankers for a living. I also buy & read most automotive mags, and usually have a good idea what most vehicles weigh. I have made one assumption here, since you didn't state what engine he's running AC, and that is that this truck has the 345 hp/375 lb-ft tq Hemi. I've read more than one review with the Hemi Ram running 15-ish second 1/4 mile times.
Here's a cool article on a comparo between the Hemi Ram & that Chevy Silverado SS pickup: Clickity
I otherwise based my input here on your stating that prior to the S/C, the truck was 1 second slower than your car. If this is the case, which it very well could be, with his S/C, depending on the tune & the psi setting on that blower, it could be anywhere from a drivers race if it's conservatively tuned, to he hands you your hat if it's aggressively tuned. However if he's running a regular street radial, good luck getting that short box to hook up if he's added some serious power.
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Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop
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The Dodge truck will run about a 15.6 stock. C'mon, we're talking about moving about 7400 lbs. here.
they only weigh about 6300-6600lbs depend on the cab and bed
Bullshit. My truck weighs a little over 7400. I had it on the scales less than a month ago. You can read all the articles you want, but I've got the real deal sitting in the driveway right now.

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Yeah the 4 door crew cab will be heavy. I'm assuming this guy is talking about a shortbox, though. I hope. lol

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Unfortunately I don't know much else about his truck, I've never raced or seen it. This was just a discussion we had while chatting one day and I was curious on opinions. The second difference comes from what I said in the above post, the times I had found online for both cars. I requested some pictures from him, which I'll through in here as soon as I get them.
 
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Originally Posted by acmillr
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The Dodge truck will run about a 15.6 stock. C'mon, we're talking about moving about 7400 lbs. here.
they only weigh about 6300-6600lbs depend on the cab and bed
Bullshit. My truck weighs a little over 7400. I had it on the scales less than a month ago. You can read all the articles you want, but I've got the real deal sitting in the driveway right now.

i used to work for dodge........are u reading the wieght off the title or the sticker on ther door? Also, if thats ur truck u also have one of the heavier models with the stock body kit, spoiler, and hood.
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Originally Posted by 96GTRagTop
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The Dodge truck will run about a 15.6 stock. C'mon, we're talking about moving about 7400 lbs. here.
they only weigh about 6300-6600lbs depend on the cab and bed
Bullshit. My truck weighs a little over 7400. I had it on the scales less than a month ago. You can read all the articles you want, but I've got the real deal sitting in the driveway right now.

i used to work for dodge........are u reading the wieght off the title or the sticker on ther door? Also, if thats ur truck u also have one of the heavier models with the stock body kit, spoiler, and hood.
I am reading actual scales. The sticker on the door says 7700 lbs.
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This 13.6 number keeps popping up, but it seems wrong. High 13's at best.

13.8
http://www.allpar.com/model/ram/ram-srt-10.html

13.8
http://www.dannieldridge.com/truck.html

idk it might just be me. But I've seen them bow down to a few lightnings stock for stock.
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the sticker on the door represents the maximum payload the truck can handle.....(not tow)the weight of the truck is ussually 1000lbs less then that. Like if u look at the gross weight of a mustang it says 4400 but we all know the car weighs around 3300.
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