v6 vs civic si

03stanggg · May 7th, 2008, 04:31 PM

who do you think would win i only have a cai so far i have a tuner on the way but i dont think ill have it for the race... the civic is a 2003 civic si with no upgrades... and i have a 2003 v6.. BTW its a dig... my friend says he will RAPE me... but im thinking it might be close...

im willing to throw some money at some stickers for that added HP but only if i HAVE to

stang94 · May 7th, 2008, 04:57 PM

03 Civic Si
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Power: 119 kW , 160 HP SAE @ 6,500 rpm; 132 ft lb , 179 Nm @ 5,000 rpm

You:
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Power: SAE and 142 kW , 190 HP @ 5,250 rpm; 220 ft lb , 298 Nm @ 2,750 rpm

I know the civic are very light. So the weight might make up the difference, should be a close race

Is she stick or auto? are you?

8t6gt · May 7th, 2008, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by stang94

03 Civic Si
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Power: 119 kW , 160 HP SAE @ 6,500 rpm; 132 ft lb , 179 Nm @ 5,000 rpm

You:
-
Power: SAE and 142 kW , 190 HP @ 5,250 rpm; 220 ft lb , 298 Nm @ 2,750 rpm

I know the civic are very light. So the weight might make up the difference, should be a close race

Is she stick or auto? are you?

I was thinking the same about transmissions

ReverendDexter · May 7th, 2008, 05:46 PM

Civic weighs about 2750 empty.

Mustang weighs about 3200 empty.

So... assuming 180 lb drivers, the Civic is pushing 24.5 lbs per horsepower, the Mustang more like 17.5.

Assuming equal traction and driver ability, I don't see how you could loose (other than poor gearing choice by Ford).

jdrahush · May 7th, 2008, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter

Civic weighs about 2750 empty.

Mustang weighs about 3200 empty.

So... assuming 180 lb drivers, the Civic is pushing 24.5 lbs per horsepower, the Mustang more like 17.5.

Assuming equal traction and driver ability, I don't see how you could loose (other than poor gearing choice by Ford).

+1. And the Torque to lbs ratio is even more in your favor.

drazga97 · May 7th, 2008, 06:40 PM

and the civic if Fail Wheel Drive...... but its got that VTEC YO!

1BADSTANG · May 7th, 2008, 08:11 PM

You would definitely loose without 4.10's. look at you tube videos of civic SI's, they run high 13's low 14's stock.

drazga97 · May 7th, 2008, 08:31 PM

hes talking about the 03s not the newest ones.... the 03 Si's run a 7.6 0-60 and a 15.8 1/4 mile.

1BADSTANG · May 7th, 2008, 08:34 PM

oops sorry man!

drazga97 · May 7th, 2008, 08:37 PM

no problem. its just i know theres a big difference from the last generation Si's to the brand new Si's, with bolt ons they can be pretty quick.

RALVAREZ26 · May 8th, 2008, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

You would definitely loose without 4.10's. look at you tube videos of civic SI's, they run high 13's low 14's stock.

are you kidding or being serious? the ones i've seen here in dallas run 15's, high 14's stock depending on what year! the brand new civics run high to mid 14's!

cmhoward7 · May 8th, 2008, 12:33 PM

I have seen 3 new Si's run here in Phoenix... The fastest that I saw them run at the track was 15.1. and he had I/E, good traction and didnt miss a shift. The other 2 were running 15.3-15.4. Im sure it can be done, but I ve never seen one break into the 14's yet.

969800gt · May 8th, 2008, 12:39 PM

The Si will win. they can rev upto 8,000 from the factory and the gearing in those are awsome.

but you all probably think I am a dumb shit now becuase I like Hondas.

flattusmaximus78 · May 8th, 2008, 06:44 PM

If he know how to drive he will beat you. I had a v6 auto with 4:10's I beat my buddies by like 2 cars from a roll maybe, but like 3 or so from a dig

GreenFaleen · May 8th, 2008, 07:19 PM

You will win if it was an 05+you would loose they are capable of 14.8 stock

1BADSTANG · May 8th, 2008, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

You will win if it was an 05+you would loose they are capable of 14.8 stock

The new ones are capable of high 13 stock

Arikara · May 8th, 2008, 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by 1BADSTANG

The new ones are capable of high 13 stock

No they aren't. A buddy of mine has a modded 08 Si (he's put about $8,000 in engine mods and weight reduction) and he is only running around 14.2. They're 192 HP, yes they don't weight very much and are quick, but they aren't a mid to high 13 second car stock.

HMUSN · May 8th, 2008, 09:39 PM

8k into ANY motor and your running 10's 11's

dmachine22 · May 8th, 2008, 09:42 PM

LOLOLOL High 13's stock lolololol yeah okay and............

Now the dream is over right?

dmachine22 · May 8th, 2008, 09:42 PM

Originally Posted by HMUSN

8k into ANY motor and your running 10's 11's

very true

May 7th, 2008, 04:31 PM	#1
03stanggg Newbie 2003 v6 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: North East Posts: 21	v6 vs civic si who do you think would win i only have a cai so far i have a tuner on the way but i dont think ill have it for the race... the civic is a 2003 civic si with no upgrades... and i have a 2003 v6.. BTW its a dig... my friend says he will RAPE me... but im thinking it might be close... im willing to throw some money at some stickers for that added HP but only if i HAVE to

May 7th, 2008, 04:57 PM	#2
stang94 Enthusiast Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Jamaica, NY Posts: 970	03 Civic Si - Power: 119 kW , 160 HP SAE @ 6,500 rpm; 132 ft lb , 179 Nm @ 5,000 rpm You: - Power: SAE and 142 kW , 190 HP @ 5,250 rpm; 220 ft lb , 298 Nm @ 2,750 rpm I know the civic are very light. So the weight might make up the difference, should be a close race Is she stick or auto? are you? __________________ FREE & FOR SALE 198x 351W Block - 90,xxx Miles (FREE) 94-98 GT Hood, 2 pr tail light - 1 Pr power mirror - FREE NEW - ENERGY SUSP Motor Mount POLY, RED ($100) NEW - Reserve Glow Blue/Green ($50)

May 7th, 2008, 05:46 PM	#4
ReverendDexter Hardcore Enthusiast 1998 SVT Cobra Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Santa Rosa, CA Posts: 1,011	Civic weighs about 2750 empty. Mustang weighs about 3200 empty. So... assuming 180 lb drivers, the Civic is pushing 24.5 lbs per horsepower, the Mustang more like 17.5. Assuming equal traction and driver ability, I don't see how you could loose (other than poor gearing choice by Ford). __________________ ---------------------------------------------------------- The Sacred Chao says "MU" '96 Bronco XLT '98 Cobra '89 Camry AllTrac

May 7th, 2008, 06:40 PM	#6
drazga97 Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 13.82 @ 101.09 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 587	and the civic if Fail Wheel Drive...... but its got that VTEC YO! __________________ 2004 Gt Silver 5 speed tint all around, jlt cold air intake, black fr500s, and 555rs. next mod: mach 1 or termi?

May 7th, 2008, 08:11 PM	#7
1BADSTANG Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: long island Posts: 1,342	You would definitely loose without 4.10's. look at you tube videos of civic SI's, they run high 13's low 14's stock. __________________ FREE DRAG RACER GAME, TRY IT!! http://www.StreetChallenge3D.com/sig...?referal=1BAD1 2007 mustang gt/cs 11.8 with legal stickys sons 1988 mustang gt Full bolt ons mild build coming soon.

May 7th, 2008, 08:31 PM	#8
drazga97 Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 13.82 @ 101.09 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 587	hes talking about the 03s not the newest ones.... the 03 Si's run a 7.6 0-60 and a 15.8 1/4 mile. __________________ 2004 Gt Silver 5 speed tint all around, jlt cold air intake, black fr500s, and 555rs. next mod: mach 1 or termi?

May 7th, 2008, 08:34 PM	#9
1BADSTANG Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: long island Posts: 1,342	oops sorry man! __________________ FREE DRAG RACER GAME, TRY IT!! http://www.StreetChallenge3D.com/sig...?referal=1BAD1 2007 mustang gt/cs 11.8 with legal stickys sons 1988 mustang gt Full bolt ons mild build coming soon.

May 7th, 2008, 08:37 PM	#10
drazga97 Enthusiast 2004 Mustang GT 13.82 @ 101.09 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: New Jersey Posts: 587	no problem. its just i know theres a big difference from the last generation Si's to the brand new Si's, with bolt ons they can be pretty quick. __________________ 2004 Gt Silver 5 speed tint all around, jlt cold air intake, black fr500s, and 555rs. next mod: mach 1 or termi?

May 8th, 2008, 12:33 PM	#12
cmhoward7 Newbie 2007 Mustang GT/CS Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Phx, AZ Posts: 40	I have seen 3 new Si's run here in Phoenix... The fastest that I saw them run at the track was 15.1. and he had I/E, good traction and didnt miss a shift. The other 2 were running 15.3-15.4. Im sure it can be done, but I ve never seen one break into the 14's yet. __________________ 2007 Mustang GT/CS JLT II Intake SCT X3 W/ Brenspeed tune Flowmaster Axel Backs Pypes O/R H Pipe Hurst Short Throw Upper Billet Grille Front & Rear Blackouts 3.55 Gears

May 8th, 2008, 12:39 PM	#13
969800gt Regular '98 GT & '96 Civic Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 133	The Si will win. they can rev upto 8,000 from the factory and the gearing in those are awsome. but you all probably think I am a dumb shit now becuase I like Hondas.

May 8th, 2008, 06:44 PM	#14
flattusmaximus78 Hardcore Enthusiast 1993 5.ohhhh 14.47 at 96 mph Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Gatorland Posts: 2,572	If he know how to drive he will beat you. I had a v6 auto with 4:10's I beat my buddies by like 2 cars from a roll maybe, but like 3 or so from a dig __________________ 99 towncar siezed motor 1996 v6 mustang 5 speed fed in the a by a bronco 1999 v6 auto drive way paper weight 1993 5.0 5 speed http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y51...thtrhtrhtr.jpg

May 8th, 2008, 07:19 PM	#15
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,684	You will win if it was an 05+you would loose they are capable of 14.8 stock __________________ Buy My Guitar and Amp Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot tuning and install in process, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

May 8th, 2008, 09:42 PM	#19
dmachine22 Hardcore Enthusiast 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Posts: 1,127	LOLOLOL High 13's stock lolololol yeah okay and............ Now the dream is over right? __________________ " DO WORK SON DO WORK"

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