[JDP527]

ok, so i'm about to start a huge v6 mustang project... and about to drop 7000g's into this thing once summer comes....

Can any one tell me if this all works... or any suggestions?

4.2l shortblock from rpm-mustangs

Stage 3 SuperHeads with
1.94/1.56 stainless steel valves - from supersix

SSM custom ground CompCams billet cam - from super six

ported lower intake

windstar intake

Jmod

8.8' rear end... < any ideas where i can find one? and do the 05-08 gt fit?

Loudmouth exhaust...

custom cold air intake

Demon Coils and Stang wires... (for looks)

Any suggestions about a fuel system? do i need one?

OK OK... Some peoplehave told me i will barely make 300hp... and others have told me i could come close to 400 with a good tune... any ideas?

[JASonic]

Looks like one hell of a wish list.

IMO, start smaller man. Save for some simple bolt ons and enjoy it for what it is.


If you are serious about having a race car (if thats your goal) ditch the 6 and put the 7k into a GT.

[JDP527]

I kno i was going to get that... =\ well thats definately a possibility... im just trying to see how much this v6 can handle im kind of curious

[JASonic]

Sorry JD, Im not being a prick. I think we all wonder what they are capable of. Once you start really looking at the cost and energy it takes just to get it to stock GT values, I don't think its worth it. Don't get me wrong though, there are some guys here that have invested alot in the 6 and those cars are incredible. Someone will catch your thread and give you some good feedback. I try to be real with these cars. 300hp is obtainable for sure (I couldnt tell you if it is or not with your mod list) but these cars will produce that with some work and dedication...alot of work and dedication.

Just curious,,,, ever consider FI if you have 7k? Leave the 3.8 in there and add an SC and add ons.

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by JDP527 ok, so i'm about to start a huge v6 mustang project... and about to drop 7000g's into this thing once summer comes.... Can any one tell me if this all works... or any suggestions? 4.2l shortblock from rpm-mustangs Stage 3 SuperHeads with 1.94/1.56 stainless steel valves - from supersix SSM custom ground CompCams billet cam - from super six ported lower intake windstar intake Jmod 8.8' rear end... < any ideas where i can find one? and do the 05-08 gt fit? Loudmouth exhaust... custom cold air intake Demon Coils and Stang wires... (for looks) Any suggestions about a fuel system? do i need one? OK OK... Some peoplehave told me i will barely make 300hp... and others have told me i could come close to 400 with a good tune... any ideas?

You should see close to 300rwhp, a little less. The rear end from the 05-08GT is wider than the rear end for the new edge models. Try to find an 8.8 rear from a 99-04 GT. The rear will bolt right up, and you can find them in a local junkyard or online for a deal if you shop and get lucky.

[mooses]

I'd guess around 265rwhp. You won't be seeing 300 without FI.

[JDP527]

Any one else think its worth it?

[AtlanticBlue99]

Originally Posted by mooses I'd guess around 265rwhp. You won't be seeing 300 without FI.

+1

[AtlanticBlue99]

I would invest in a poweradder (supercharger or turbocharger).

[stangcharger]

once these engines are built we still have no idea what the limits are when R&D will be applied. 600+rwhp is an easy possibility with a built motor and a good turbo kit.

you won't be going anywhere without forced induction though. IMO do forced induction first then build the motor as you are able.

stock internals are good til 350rwhp with a good tune and that is reachable with a turbo kit without to much trouble.

v6 or GT you'll still need forced induction to really do much.

find what goal you want, then see what you will need to do to reach it. if 300rwhp is your goal. through a turbo on the stock motor and be done with it.

[JDP527]

Any good Suggestions to reach 350hp?

[JDP527]

actually make that 425 lol

[Dansby]

Chris's setup. (itschristorres)

Talk to him and he'll tell you exactly what you need.

[itschristorres8]

well i see a few things wrong.
a.) why are you going to use an RPM bottom end and then SSMS top end? Not to sound rude but if you enjoy wasting money feel free. If you really want to SPEND $$ on heads i'd go CNC from RPM. much cheaper then stage 3 heads and flow extremely close

the uppers and lowers i've heard/seen how SSMS ports... they are a great company but i could not believe the taper. For the cost of the parts on those intakes and the easy accessible ports why not FULLY port it correctly?

CRT RACING PERFORMANCE | I do porting and polishing as well if your interested check out my products.
I ran them on a 01 STOCK bottom end motor, ported heads(not race heads), ported upper and lower intake and a regrind camshaft from RPM and gained 71+rwhp at 6psi and 77rwhp from 9psi
before h/c/i-279rwhp-6psi/////313rwhp-9psi
after h/c/i-350rwhp-7psi//////390rwhp-9psi

this is through a turbocharged setup keep in mind though. n/a you will probably not see AS GREAT of a gain but still i'd EASILY say 60+rwhp



Next an 05+ rear end will not work with a car thats 04 or older assuming you have that model..
if you have a 99-04 v6 mustang you would preferably need a rear end from a 99-04 GT model(8.8)
or a 98 and older 8.8 will work but its 3/4 of an inch short on each side

NOTE an 8.8 is by NO means stronger then a 7.5 with a detriot trutrac...its actually WEAKER

if you going to push 400+rwhp and hitting a track. the 8.8 will for sure need stronger axles and a posi/diff. unit



for an n/a setup realistically your going to be looking at 260-280rwhp through that auto...an aluminum driveshaft will help you bring more power to the ground.
why i say 260+
assuming if you are going to stay n/a a 10:1 compression ratio would be IDEAL.
SSM's v6er hit 260rwhp and 260rwtq with a setup just as yours only with a C4tranny. that trany will rob a tad bit more power then yours thus making 260rwhp goal doable


IMO i would NOT invest the $$ on a forged short block if your looking to run n/a. it'd be a waste of money because your stock bottom end will easily support any n/a setup a v6 mustang will offer.
ifyou wish to do nitrous or supercharge or turbocharge the car then yes it'll be worth it

[v606er]

^

[Dansby]

Like I said...listen to Chris.

[itschristorres8]

as someon said
if your an n/a guy...to be honest only way this car n/a will move great is in a light car and n/a done all out
which means custom upper, every imaginable bolt on
stick with a 7.5 rear for less weight to turn
light wheels
lots of weigh reduction
high octane fuel
high compression motor
insane cam

to be honest i think the highest hp numbers anyone will ever see is maybe a few hairs over 300hp...you'd be almost better off in a manual...weigh's less more power to the ground
with k-member, a-arms, coil overs, lighter control arms, and weight reduction you can sit at 2800lbs maybe 2700-2750 with no a/c, manual sterring, no front sway bar

n/a i bet i could hit 2700lbs
but the car wouldnt be too streetable and would require race fuel and probably hit about 315rwhp with some Q16 in a t5 tranny
and i would NEED nitrous because n/a would be boring in a 6cylinder

2700lbs with 315rwhp equates to 8.5lbs per whp...which is just about enough to run 11s

thats a non-streetable car now

when a V8 swap(NOT A 4.6) n/a like a 302 will mark down 300+rwhp with incredible ease and 87octane

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by 6er_w/a_Vengance we all know how i feel about modding a sixxer...FI or a poweradder or get an 8...

And if you get an 8 make sure its not a GT

[ESG-642T]

What do you call a car that terminates a termi?

[Triple A]

what? termi terminator?