[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by GotBoost232 why do u think the sti is a lil highly more rated then teh evo...the evo basiaclly own its except in handling...sti takes it b/c evos suspension is wack 07s year they hoped they changed it...

no.. the SUBURA rated their HP at the CRANK the evos HP is rated from the wheels.. so once again your info is wack.. a WRX STOCK vs STOCK cant beat a evo in a straight line... and top gear tested them in a race on a track and the evo whopped its ass so you apparently dont know much about evos IDK where you got your info but is bullshit a cobalt wont stand a chance anyway you look at it

[Texan_Stud]

w/e you say.. im not gonna fight it but anyone who thinks a fuckin cobalt can keep up with a car that does 0-60 in 4 seconds is well off.. and a cobalt would never have a better track handling than a evo.. go drive a cobalt then go drive a evo.. then come back when you have a better idea of whats going on

[GotBoost232]

omg keep interpreting what im saying wrong sti beats it in the turn evo cant get there suspension down lmao...and in 06+ didnt the revert the evos to rear wheel drive?..the cobalt puts a .88 on the skid pad...btw im going on 06 stats not 07...07 cobalts are the exact same thing...evo and evo are to complete different thign look it up...\



in 06 cobalt ss skidpad =.88
06 evo...skidpad=.71
07 evo x skidpad=.93

[04musclestang]

Originally Posted by GotBoost232 omg keep interpreting what im saying wrong sti beats it in the turn evo cant get there suspension down lmao...and in 06+ didnt the revert the evos to rear wheel drive?..the cobalt puts a .88 on the skid pad...btw im going on 06 stats not 07...07 cobalts are the exact same thing...evo and evo are to complete different thign look it up...

Lancer Evolution 9s are better in handling and speed than the WRX STi 7s sorry but I am gonna have to agree with him. Even if a lancer had to slow down more than a cobalt (which it wouldnt) it would still win on sheer speed alone. The Lancer would win in handling performance and speed mostly based on the fact they are all wheel drive (evos never reverted to rear-wheel). A cobalt may slide less but it still cant turn as hard as a AWD care like say a STi 7 or Evo 9. Basically a Cobalt would never stand a chance no matter what model it is unless you dumped a wad of cash into it and, the Evo 9 racing the Cobalt would have to be stock.

Sorry but I am a huge fan of Lancer Evos but I am not being Biased at all.. The Evo 9 would take the win hands down. (in track or drag against both WRX and Cobalt)

[GotBoost232]

what year'???lol

[04musclestang]

Originally Posted by GotBoost232 what year'???lol

I believe the EVO 9 came out in.. 06

note: a cobalt could maybe beat a mustang gt in a track race simply because the mustang would have the rear-end kicking out of every turn..the type of drive means everything

[GotBoost232]

lol im just going on by what ik on the car and what car and driver has rated....ide rather have a cobalt...its cheaper...and stage 2 it for 200 bucks and be putting the same power as and evo and still be looking better.....if u do look it up the the evos suspension has been out of it till this year..07 whent he brought out the evo wich dominates the sti every wich way...im looking a car and driver thats where im getting these number from.,..


in 07 car and driver rates the "evo x" the fastes over all fourcylnder""in 05 cobalt ss is the fastest 4 cyl." u gotta specify years...kind saying oh my stock 97 v6 is faster than a 05 v6.....

[04musclestang]

Originally Posted by GotBoost232 lol im just going on by what ik on the car and what car and driver has rated....ide rather have a cobalt...its cheaper...and stage 2 it for 200 bucks and be putting the same power as and evo and still be looking better.....if u do look it up the the evos suspension has been out of it till this year..07 whent he brought out the evo wich dominates the sti every wich way...im looking a car and driver thats where im getting these number from.,.. in 07 car and driver rates the "evo x" the fastes over all fourcylnder""in 05 cobalt ss is the fastest 4 cyl." u gotta specify years...kind saying oh my stock 97 v6 is faster than a 05 v6.....

Well lets agree to disagree. The only way we could really know for sure is if we both got a Evo 9 and a Cobalt SS together and seen which one would win. So, lets not argue over it anymore lol =) :topicsucks

[xxrals22xx]

cobalts are gay IMO

[Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo]

Originally Posted by Texan_Stud no.. the SUBURA rated their HP at the CRANK the evos HP is rated from the wheels.. so once again your info is wack.. a WRX STOCK vs STOCK cant beat a evo in a straight line... and top gear tested them in a race on a track and the evo whopped its ass so you apparently dont know much about evos IDK where you got your info but is bullshit a cobalt wont stand a chance anyway you look at it

Bullshit, none of you REALLY know what you are talking about at all.

no street car from a major manufacturer is currently rated from the wheels for the hp/tq in the US, that is a fact. Thay are all rated from the crank. And Jap manufacturers are known to exagerate their figures. Only truely believe dyno graphs, and a figure SAE certified (ex. Z06's 505hp)

Dont even let me get into how homo/racist/lying some of the top gear people are.

the evo is faster stock only because it runs far more boost stock than the cobalt or almost any other stock 4 banger. People think the evo and the STi are gods or something, but all they are infact are just awd high boost cars. This means that some of their potential is already used up from the factory.

If it were me I would take Cobalt over the evo or STi because of the capabilities of the car with merely bolt on mods. A full bolt on cobalt should be MUCH faster than a full bolt on evo, especially around a circuit track.(ive seen the numbers) Also, the ecotec engine family is fairly kick ass and has the capability to be tuned for far better performace than a conventional FI engine. So, with that $10k extra I would have spent buying the evo, I would have a MUCH faster modified cobalt.

The only advantage I see over the cobat that the EVO and the STi have is awd, but that only gives an advantage on slippery/loose surfaces. (I wont get into that, were talking about dry pavement stuff) The cobalt has been track proven to have a well balanced fwd set up, capable of standing with or beating other driveline set ups it would go against on dry pavement.(circuit, time trial, ect.)

[Texan_Stud]

don't claim that we don't know what we are talking about when you have only supported our conversation you never proved either of us wrong.. we were talking about stock for stock so i really dont care what you like better... and I never said a evo was a god but it is a fast car... your ignorant for even making the assumtions on what WE THINK you dont know what we THINK so get off of your wanna be power trip


and your whole bullshit about the hp of cars not being rated at the wheel is a fact? how the hell do you know it is indeed a FACT?! my next door neighbor drives a EVO 9 bonestock it was rated out of the factory for 286 hp and he had it dyno'd for 283RWHP.. you dont know what your talking about

[itschristorres8]

Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo knows his stuff...i wouldnt really argue with him...and wat hes sayin is true


but heres how it is for a 3 way race between evo, sti and the SS STOCK with avg 1/4 times
STI -----13 flat
EVO -----13.3
SS-------low 14s

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 Sa-WaitNoMustang900Turbo knows his stuff...i wouldnt really argue with him...and wat hes sayin is true but heres how it is for a 3 way race between evo, sti and the SS STOCK with avg 1/4 times STI -----13 flat EVO -----13.3 SS-------low 14s

look man im not tryin to argue he just cant discredit everyone with no reason.. and idk which STi and which EVO that is but yeh.. anyways he never proved anyone wrong and I agree that MOST cars are dynoed at the fly and not at the wheels so that they appeal more. but the evo apparently wasn't and I have watched bone stock EVO 9 and stock WRX STi 7s race on a track and maybe it was driver difference but the wrx didnt pull a 13 flat

[itschristorres8]

with a .3 difference its deffinitly a drivers race

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 with a .3 difference its deffinitly a drivers race

get me a video of your exhaust >.< i wanna hear it!

but yeh thats what i was thinking..

[itschristorres8]

eh i'll try i gotta find the camera...i'll see what i can do tomoro

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 eh i'll try i gotta find the camera...i'll see what i can do tomoro

good deal id appreciate it

[GreenFaleen]

STI should beat an Evo. Plus evos are finicky so I would rather own a STI IMO

[Juggalo_X]

Originally Posted by 232stang that cavilier is ugly. but looks like a nice system. $10 says it make his whole car shake! jugallo i asked you this before but cant find the thread. who is that in your avatar?

if i knew who she was id be on her leg humpin away lol like a mad man lol no clue guys sorry

[Texan_Stud]

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen STI should beat an Evo. Plus evos are finicky so I would rather own a STI IMO

evos and stis are basically equal the evo just a bit faster in a straight from everything i know... the only difference is a STi is easier to drive as a daily driver but understeers and the EVO has a bitch of a clutch to get out of 1st and oversteers