FML failed smog/missing evap charcoal canister?!

Atlus · May 27th, 2009, 08:15 PM

Hey guys, blah I swear nothing is ever easy. I took my 1994 v6 today to a "test-only" smog station as required, left my car for 30 min, and came back to hear that I failed smog! My emissions are totally fine but apparently my car is "missing" the fuel evap canister?

How does that even happen? I passed smog fine 2 years ago but don't know if the guy checked for the charcoal canister. I bought the car used in about 2006 and definitely didn't take it out, and I see no reason why the original owner would've.
Anyway, my questions are as follows:
Can the canisters just fall out? Or is there a reason to take them out?
I've found a few online but is anybody parting their car/will this one from ebay fit?

Aside from the canister itself do I need to buy anything else and how difficult of an install is it?

Thanks everybody!!
-Alex

97S281 · May 27th, 2009, 08:18 PM

Check to make sure you don't have a broken hose first. That is the most common reason for the evaporative emissions control failure. If you didn't take it out, I doubt it's missing. It should be located under your passenger side fender. It's not bad to replace if you remove the tire and the splash guard.

C MY 4D · May 27th, 2009, 08:36 PM

The retard probably doesn't know where it is.

Atlus · May 27th, 2009, 11:20 PM

alright I'll double check to make sure the guy wasn't a fucking moron. So it should just be under the front by the passenger side then? How easy is it to spot from under the car/anybody got a pic? Thanks again guys!

2002 BLK GT · May 28th, 2009, 12:51 AM

1994 94 FORD MUSTANG GT Vapor Canister Purge Valve:eBay Motors (item 190305313468 end time Jun-03-09 07:32:25 PDT)
That's for a gt but you can get an idea, and the price is around 60 bucks and yes its located inside the fender on the passenger side you will need to remove the wheel.

Atlus · May 29th, 2009, 05:32 PM

Okay so I ordered a used one including the hoses and valve off ebay (thank god, saved me an arm and leg) and rummaged around under my car today looking for my old one (maybe the guy was retarded) but didn't find anything. Im checking around where my cold air intake filter is, if thats the right area. Anyway does anybody happen to have pictures or a diagram of the evap canister on their mustang so I have some Idea what im doing? Thanks for your time guys!

G.T. Rags · May 29th, 2009, 05:45 PM

if your missing that cannister your car will throw a code last time i checked

2002 BLK GT · May 30th, 2009, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by Atlus

Okay so I ordered a used one including the hoses and valve off ebay (thank god, saved me an arm and leg) and rummaged around under my car today looking for my old one (maybe the guy was retarded) but didn't find anything. Im checking around where my cold air intake filter is, if thats the right area. Anyway does anybody happen to have pictures or a diagram of the evap canister on their mustang so I have some Idea what im doing? Thanks for your time guys!

Did you ignored my answer or you didnt see it?

I have the pic and the location.....

Atlus · May 30th, 2009, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Big Daddys Stang

Did you ignored my answer or you didnt see it?
I have the pic and the location.....

I lifted up my car with a floor jack and checked around the passenger fender where my cold air intake filter is (thats where the smog guy said it should be...so hopefully he wasn't full of it) but didnt see any thing, I looked around in the area as well but didn't find much. Pics would be really appreciated since I know Im in the general area but don't know 100% where I should be looking.
Thanks!

Atlus · May 30th, 2009, 12:45 PM

Originally Posted by G.T. Rags

if your missing that cannister your car will throw a code last time i checked

yea I was under that impression too...wtf. Funny thing is I still pass emissions with flying colors, just failed the visual inspection

2002 BLK GT · June 2nd, 2009, 07:21 PM

You should have one vacuum line leading from under the intake, over to the passenger's side of the firewall. That vacuum line attaches to a cylinder that has an electrical connector to it - this is the CANP. The hose continues on the other end of the CANP and leads into the fender to the charcoal canister. Lay me find a pic sorry for the late reply.

2002 BLK GT · June 2nd, 2009, 07:25 PM

Sorry but no pics use the one that I gave you....

May 27th, 2009, 08:15 PM	#1
Atlus Newbie 1994 Mustang v6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 11 iTrader: 0 reviews	FML failed smog/missing evap charcoal canister?! Hey guys, blah I swear nothing is ever easy. I took my 1994 v6 today to a "test-only" smog station as required, left my car for 30 min, and came back to hear that I failed smog! My emissions are totally fine but apparently my car is "missing" the fuel evap canister? How does that even happen? I passed smog fine 2 years ago but don't know if the guy checked for the charcoal canister. I bought the car used in about 2006 and definitely didn't take it out, and I see no reason why the original owner would've. Anyway, my questions are as follows: Can the canisters just fall out? Or is there a reason to take them out? I've found a few online but is anybody parting their car/will this one from ebay fit? Aside from the canister itself do I need to buy anything else and how difficult of an install is it? Thanks everybody!! -Alex __________________ Aloha Kanaka

May 27th, 2009, 08:18 PM	#2
97S281 Rollin' 18/ pushin' 2 1997 Saleen S281 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: The lost highway Posts: 7,916 iTrader: 18 reviews	Check to make sure you don't have a broken hose first. That is the most common reason for the evaporative emissions control failure. If you didn't take it out, I doubt it's missing. It should be located under your passenger side fender. It's not bad to replace if you remove the tire and the splash guard. __________________ MODS IN GARAGE All SVO'D UP

May 27th, 2009, 08:36 PM	#3
C MY 4D Billy Weston 2003 Cobra 11.14@124.36 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Yorktown, VA Posts: 4,948 iTrader: 8 reviews	The retard probably doesn't know where it is. __________________ TT Build in progress....... Need work done to your car for a great price in Hampton Roads? Shoot me a PM.

May 27th, 2009, 11:20 PM	#4
Atlus Newbie 1994 Mustang v6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 11 iTrader: 0 reviews	alright I'll double check to make sure the guy wasn't a fucking moron. So it should just be under the front by the passenger side then? How easy is it to spot from under the car/anybody got a pic? Thanks again guys! __________________ Aloha Kanaka

May 28th, 2009, 12:51 AM	#5
2002 BLK GT 2k3 Blown Mach 1 03 Mach 1 & 02 GT *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S. California Posts: 2,188 iTrader: 0 reviews	1994 94 FORD MUSTANG GT Vapor Canister Purge Valve:eBay Motors (item 190305313468 end time Jun-03-09 07:32:25 PDT) That's for a gt but you can get an idea, and the price is around 60 bucks and yes its located inside the fender on the passenger side you will need to remove the wheel. __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Procharged 497rwhp club

May 29th, 2009, 05:32 PM	#6
Atlus Newbie 1994 Mustang v6 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Santa Cruz Posts: 11 iTrader: 0 reviews	Okay so I ordered a used one including the hoses and valve off ebay (thank god, saved me an arm and leg) and rummaged around under my car today looking for my old one (maybe the guy was retarded) but didn't find anything. Im checking around where my cold air intake filter is, if thats the right area. Anyway does anybody happen to have pictures or a diagram of the evap canister on their mustang so I have some Idea what im doing? Thanks for your time guys! __________________ Aloha Kanaka

June 2nd, 2009, 07:21 PM	#11
2002 BLK GT 2k3 Blown Mach 1 03 Mach 1 & 02 GT *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S. California Posts: 2,188 iTrader: 0 reviews	You should have one vacuum line leading from under the intake, over to the passenger's side of the firewall. That vacuum line attaches to a cylinder that has an electrical connector to it - this is the CANP. The hose continues on the other end of the CANP and leads into the fender to the charcoal canister. Lay me find a pic sorry for the late reply. __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Procharged 497rwhp club

June 2nd, 2009, 07:25 PM	#12
2002 BLK GT 2k3 Blown Mach 1 03 Mach 1 & 02 GT *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S. California Posts: 2,188 iTrader: 0 reviews	Sorry but no pics use the one that I gave you.... __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Procharged 497rwhp club

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