99 3.8L 30k miles performance issues

mmvi · January 29th, 2007, 01:41 PM

Already Installed:
2.5" Flowmaster Dual Exhaust (No H or X Pipe)
Cold Air Intake
16" Rims from 2004 Model
225/60/16 Tires
Runs:
Synthetic Oil
89 Octane

I was told to get my internals forged or something and get pistons installed instead of swapping for a 5.0. Apparently, some people claim the 3.8 is a strong engine and can handle a sh*t load of work. I plan on changing my gears to 4.10s in my 7.5 rear. but, what else should I do to it? what about the pistons or forged internals or whatever? I won't do this myself, I'll take it somewhere, but I'd like to know what I need to make this car better performance wise.

GreenFaleen · January 29th, 2007, 01:55 PM

the 3.8 is a pretty hardcore block you won't need forged internals until you get into some higher miles or if you go forced induction. THe forged internals will give you better performance. Also when you get gears go ahead and get t-lok as well.

mmvi · January 29th, 2007, 03:10 PM

so, I shouldn't change the pistons and whatnot then? I was told to do so for better flow-age.

GreenFaleen · January 29th, 2007, 03:12 PM

I mean it isn't something you have to do with your set up it will get you about 40 horses and allow you to put more power on the internals later.

mmvi · January 29th, 2007, 03:14 PM

ah. its good to have people who know what they are talking about when it comes to this stuff because, I am clueless! Iwas looking to upgrade it, but i only have 1000 to work with, so, I was looking for inexpensive things to do to it to make it faster.

GreenFaleen · January 29th, 2007, 05:26 PM

they have a thing called a power pak that is all the upgrade you will need
http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...2PowerPaks.pdf

if your interested thats all you need for forgeing

Juggalo_X · January 29th, 2007, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by GreenFaleen

they have a thing called a power pak that is all the upgrade you will need
http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...2PowerPaks.pdf

if your interested thats all you need for forgeing

i want one but i don't think id ever have enough cash to pay for it all at once shitty

xxrals22xx · January 29th, 2007, 05:51 PM

how much would it cost to get all of that installed?

232stang · January 29th, 2007, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by xxrals22xx

how much would it cost to get all of that installed?

free, well for me, my brother and my dad

xxrals22xx · January 29th, 2007, 05:56 PM

ok well that doesnt help me unless ur dad and brother can do it for me for free if i got a power pak lol

mmvi · January 29th, 2007, 07:09 PM

yeah, I could afford maybe a quarter of all that stuff without the install so, I am going to have to go another route on this car.. or, maybe just leaving the thing stock and fogetting all about my hopes and dreams... ha

itschristorres8 · January 29th, 2007, 07:13 PM

your motor now will not need forged internals
without spending huge money you could finish your bolt ons, get a power pak($1800)4.10s and t-lok would keep you axle safe and engine safe with stock internals

mmvi · January 29th, 2007, 07:17 PM

really now... that's excellent! thank you! any reccomendations on where to get the power pak? which "brand" if there is a brand to get, and so forth

itschristorres8 · January 29th, 2007, 07:19 PM

http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/news.shtml
from ^

acutal page V
http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...2PowerPaks.pdf

i'd just go with a stage 2. you wont benifit really from a stage 2+ or stage 3.
those are more for FI cars

this is the only place that sells THIS power pak that i know of

mmvi · January 29th, 2007, 07:45 PM

thank you. I will have to wait a little to save up for it, but, if it's worth it, then it's worth it

itschristorres8 · January 29th, 2007, 10:02 PM

it'll be worht it, your exhaust will sound badass, and you can take any GT and almost any cobra. some old saleens as well

gtg8920 · January 29th, 2007, 10:29 PM

yea thats nice but how much to get it installed? you can really take cobras?
and also if you get a power pack could you then get a stroker kit or is it not worht it or would you have to get a stroker kit then a power pack for a 4.2? or could you not do either and im just being stupid and should stop talking.

itschristorres8 · January 29th, 2007, 10:53 PM

you can do both
actually both would be better and you'd have more power
but a stroker kit isnt cheap
your lookin at about $3.5-$4k after install

a power pak idlk how much it would cost to install
i will know one day thouhg

gtg8920 · January 29th, 2007, 11:18 PM

looks like i wont be getting a stroker kit more likely a power pak ,however, i just need to know how much the install would be does anyone know?

itschristorres8 · January 29th, 2007, 11:37 PM

my guess is $1k
i wouldnt pay more then that. everything but the cam is a problem

January 29th, 2007, 01:41 PM	#1
mmvi Enthusiast Mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 644	99 3.8L 30k miles performance issues Already Installed: 2.5" Flowmaster Dual Exhaust (No H or X Pipe) Cold Air Intake 16" Rims from 2004 Model 225/60/16 Tires Runs: Synthetic Oil 89 Octane I was told to get my internals forged or something and get pistons installed instead of swapping for a 5.0. Apparently, some people claim the 3.8 is a strong engine and can handle a sh*t load of work. I plan on changing my gears to 4.10s in my 7.5 rear. but, what else should I do to it? what about the pistons or forged internals or whatever? I won't do this myself, I'll take it somewhere, but I'd like to know what I need to make this car better performance wise.

January 29th, 2007, 01:55 PM	#2
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,962	the 3.8 is a pretty hardcore block you won't need forged internals until you get into some higher miles or if you go forced induction. THe forged internals will give you better performance. Also when you get gears go ahead and get t-lok as well. __________________ Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

January 29th, 2007, 03:10 PM	#3
mmvi Enthusiast Mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 644	so, I shouldn't change the pistons and whatnot then? I was told to do so for better flow-age. __________________ 1999 Cobra 3380 of 4040 BBK Longtubes BBK Offroad H SLP Loudmouth II Resonators H&R Lowering Springs BBK CAI

January 29th, 2007, 03:12 PM	#4
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,962	I mean it isn't something you have to do with your set up it will get you about 40 horses and allow you to put more power on the internals later. __________________ Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

January 29th, 2007, 03:14 PM	#5
mmvi Enthusiast Mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 644	ah. its good to have people who know what they are talking about when it comes to this stuff because, I am clueless! Iwas looking to upgrade it, but i only have 1000 to work with, so, I was looking for inexpensive things to do to it to make it faster. __________________ 1999 Cobra 3380 of 4040 BBK Longtubes BBK Offroad H SLP Loudmouth II Resonators H&R Lowering Springs BBK CAI

January 29th, 2007, 05:26 PM	#6
GreenFaleen Resident MM Ricer 2006 Scion tC 13.9@103/8.9@81 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Raleigh/Lenoir, NC Posts: 8,962	they have a thing called a power pak that is all the upgrade you will need http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...2PowerPaks.pdf if your interested thats all you need for forgeing __________________ Scion Tc-strup racing header, CAI, Ground Kit, NOS 100shot, Custom suspension, Doc. I 50% STS MM 4 Banger club: Senior Ricer "Horsepower sells cars, torque wins races." -Carroll Shelby Thanks To My Sponsors: Strup Performance

January 29th, 2007, 05:51 PM	#8
xxrals22xx Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: saco, ME Posts: 429	how much would it cost to get all of that installed? __________________ http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...tattoos_-1.jpg

January 29th, 2007, 05:56 PM	#10
xxrals22xx Regular Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: saco, ME Posts: 429	ok well that doesnt help me unless ur dad and brother can do it for me for free if i got a power pak lol __________________ http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...tattoos_-1.jpg

January 29th, 2007, 07:09 PM	#11
mmvi Enthusiast Mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 644	yeah, I could afford maybe a quarter of all that stuff without the install so, I am going to have to go another route on this car.. or, maybe just leaving the thing stock and fogetting all about my hopes and dreams... ha __________________ 1999 Cobra 3380 of 4040 BBK Longtubes BBK Offroad H SLP Loudmouth II Resonators H&R Lowering Springs BBK CAI

January 29th, 2007, 07:13 PM	#12
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,175	your motor now will not need forged internals without spending huge money you could finish your bolt ons, get a power pak($1800)4.10s and t-lok would keep you axle safe and engine safe with stock internals __________________ When the Turbo spins The bullshit ends

January 29th, 2007, 07:17 PM	#13
mmvi Enthusiast Mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 644	really now... that's excellent! thank you! any reccomendations on where to get the power pak? which "brand" if there is a brand to get, and so forth __________________ 1999 Cobra 3380 of 4040 BBK Longtubes BBK Offroad H SLP Loudmouth II Resonators H&R Lowering Springs BBK CAI

January 29th, 2007, 07:19 PM	#14
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,175	http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/news.shtml from ^ acutal page V http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...2PowerPaks.pdf i'd just go with a stage 2. you wont benifit really from a stage 2+ or stage 3. those are more for FI cars this is the only place that sells THIS power pak that i know of __________________ When the Turbo spins The bullshit ends

January 29th, 2007, 07:45 PM	#15
mmvi Enthusiast Mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 644	thank you. I will have to wait a little to save up for it, but, if it's worth it, then it's worth it __________________ 1999 Cobra 3380 of 4040 BBK Longtubes BBK Offroad H SLP Loudmouth II Resonators H&R Lowering Springs BBK CAI

January 29th, 2007, 10:02 PM	#16
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,175	it'll be worht it, your exhaust will sound badass, and you can take any GT and almost any cobra. some old saleens as well __________________ When the Turbo spins The bullshit ends

January 29th, 2007, 10:29 PM	#17
gtg8920 Regular 2003 Mustang v6 vert Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 91	yea thats nice but how much to get it installed? you can really take cobras? and also if you get a power pack could you then get a stroker kit or is it not worht it or would you have to get a stroker kit then a power pack for a 4.2? or could you not do either and im just being stupid and should stop talking.

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January 29th, 2007, 10:53 PM	#18
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,175	you can do both actually both would be better and you'd have more power but a stroker kit isnt cheap your lookin at about $3.5-$4k after install a power pak idlk how much it would cost to install i will know one day thouhg __________________ When the Turbo spins The bullshit ends

January 29th, 2007, 11:18 PM	#19
gtg8920 Regular 2003 Mustang v6 vert Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 91	looks like i wont be getting a stroker kit more likely a power pak ,however, i just need to know how much the install would be does anyone know?

January 29th, 2007, 11:37 PM	#20
itschristorres8 I Post Entirely Way Too Much 2000 Mustang V6 unknown @390 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 14,175	my guess is $1k i wouldnt pay more then that. everything but the cam is a problem __________________ When the Turbo spins The bullshit ends