FRPP T-Lok and Motive 3.73's

RFM 40th V6 · June 23rd, 2009, 03:15 AM

I just ordered them.

I've been holding off for a while trying to convince myself I didn't need to have 2 wheel peels, better acceleration and improved handling.

But I think it finally got to me.

I NEED IT!

Now the hard part is going to be waiting for them to get here.

Big Daddys Stang · June 23rd, 2009, 04:10 AM

Congratulations but you already have mods lol so one more is not bad at all.

Imo that's what you needed to do first most people love the gears..

white03v6 · June 23rd, 2009, 04:42 AM

haha sweet!
you always need 2 wheel peels, better acceleration, and better handling

RFM 40th V6 · June 23rd, 2009, 07:03 PM

Well in an unexpected turn of events, the 3.73's are out of stock until mid august.

On a lighter note, they upgraded me to 4.10's for free and all the parts are being overnighted for free too.

Heck yes!

9986paulk · June 23rd, 2009, 09:33 PM

Thats great, you'll love it. I have an auto and I did 3.73 (future plans for a turbo) motives and a t-lok, and an XCal 3. It was all great with the firmer shifts from the tuner. Now I don't even break the wheels loose from a dig. i guess the bullitt wheels helped too with the better tires and extra width. Good luck. and don't worry about gear whine, mine are doing fine. Its all in the install.

01VBmustang · June 23rd, 2009, 09:36 PM

Awesome man, you'll be pretty stoked! I had 4.10s installed in february and they're awesome, especially with the tuner.

Gas mileage isnt that bad on the hwy either.

RFM 40th V6 · June 26th, 2009, 12:32 AM

Sweet. It all arrived today. Hopefully I'll get some lift time on Monday.

Anyone know what the top end speed will be? I heard it was around 107 with 4.10's. Note that I don't have a speed limiter any more.

mooses · June 26th, 2009, 01:09 AM

Originally Posted by RFM 40th V6

Sweet. It all arrived today. Hopefully I'll get some lift time on Monday.

Anyone know what the top end speed will be? I heard it was around 107 with 4.10's. Note that I don't have a speed limiter any more.

It'll be around 130mph or so. It'll just take a while to get there of course. It's a myth that gears lower top speed on our cars... don't know how it started.

edit: The last sentence is assuming you don't have the power to redline in o/d(you won't unless you have some serious power). Obviously, if you have something like 500hp, you'd have the power to carry out the gear further with stock gears and therefore would have a higher top speed than if you had 4.10s.

edit2: Do you get a discount on parts where you work? Just wondering why you didn't buy from the parts department.

RFM 40th V6 · June 26th, 2009, 01:22 AM

Originally Posted by mooses

It'll be around 130mph or so. It'll just take a while to get there of course. It's a myth that gears lower top speed on our cars... don't know how it started.

edit: The last sentence is assuming you don't have the power to redline in o/d(you won't unless you have some serious power). Obviously, if you have something like 500hp, you'd have the power to carry out the gear further with stock gears and therefore would have a higher top speed than if you had 4.10s.

Ok thanks for clearing that up.

I was just wondering since I do have plans for a lot more power. I don't want to install these and then end up topping out in the quarter mile after I'm done building.

Oh and discount's don't apply to FRPP. Only factory parts. It sucks. I know.

Big Daddys Stang · June 26th, 2009, 01:24 AM

Are you sure? they do lower your top end but eitherway is recommendable cuz you will gain more acceleleration its proved on the 1/4 mile, but you can do better with gears....

mooses · June 26th, 2009, 01:45 AM

Originally Posted by RFM 40th V6

Ok thanks for clearing that up.

I was just wondering since I do have plans for a lot more power. I don't want to install these and then end up topping out in the quarter mile after I'm done building.

Oh and discount's don't apply to FRPP. Only factory parts. It sucks. I know.

A good way to check if you'll run out of gear is to find someone with a somewhat similar setup you're planning on running and take note of their ET@mph. Then use a mph calculator that takes tire size, transmission gear ratio(it'll be 1.00 since you don't want it to shift into o/d), and rear end gear ratio and see what rpm you'll be spinning. You actually can run out of gear in the quarter with 4.10s if you're pushing enough power. My post above was about top speed, using o/d ratios, which you wouldn't use in the quarter. I assumed you meant a top speed highway run or something.

Originally Posted by Big Daddys Stang

Are you sure? they do lower your top end but eitherway is recommendable cuz you will gain more acceleleration its proved on the 1/4 mile, but you can do better with gears....

It won't lower his overall top speed. In fact, it could even increase it.

RFM 40th V6 · June 27th, 2009, 01:52 AM

UPDATE:

I have the parts and I have assembled the ring and diff carrier. I'm just waiting for some lift time to put it all together.

I know it's going to drop my track times. By how much, I'm not sure.

9986paulk · June 27th, 2009, 08:48 AM

There's no way you'll top out. With the tuner, your rev limiter is probably at 6000 and thats enough to get to over 150 if you have the power to get to even 5500 in OD.

RFM 40th V6 · June 29th, 2009, 03:00 AM

I don't have that kind of power just yet. Maybe by next summer.

ApeXX · June 29th, 2009, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by 9986paulk

There's no way you'll top out. With the tuner, your rev limiter is probably at 6000 and thats enough to get to over 150 if you have the power to get to even 5500 in OD.

It may be limited to 6000 but you'll never hit that in OD.

mooses · June 29th, 2009, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by ApeXX

It may be limited to 6000 but you'll never hit that in OD.

Exactly. Most people think 4.10s lower your top speed even though you can't even hit redline in OD anyway with stock gearing.

ApeXX · June 29th, 2009, 07:21 PM

Let me know how it feels after the install. I'm getting mine done (3.73's) at a local shop for about $400 (including motive gears) in a week or two. Can't wait to see how she pulls after that!

mooses · June 29th, 2009, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by ApeXX

Let me know how it feels after the install. I'm getting mine done (3.73's) at a local shop for about $400 (including motive gears) in a week or two. Can't wait to see how she pulls after that!

Is that $400 including the price of the gears? That would be an amazing price. Do you have an auto or manual?

risingerj · July 1st, 2009, 03:05 AM

does anyone know where to view an install video of gears in a rear end?

Big Daddys Stang · July 1st, 2009, 03:11 AM

How to install your own gears!!! - Mustang Forums at StangNet This should help^

June 23rd, 2009, 03:15 AM	#1
RFM 40th V6 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 15.4@93.6 aka way too slow Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crofton MD Posts: 278	FRPP T-Lok and Motive 4.10's I just ordered them. I've been holding off for a while trying to convince myself I didn't need to have 2 wheel peels, better acceleration and improved handling. But I think it finally got to me. I NEED IT! Now the hard part is going to be waiting for them to get here. __________________ 04 3.9l V6 Ford Tech \|Performance\| CAI, BBK Shorty Headers, Pypes Catted X-Pipe, Street Pro Mufflers, 4 Bank Eliminator w/ 93+ Tune \|Handling\| FRPP B Springs 1.5" Drop, BFG G-Force Sport Tires, Slotted & Cross Drilled Rotors Last edited by RFM 40th V6 : June 29th, 2009 at 03:02 AM.

June 23rd, 2009, 04:10 AM	#2
Big Daddys Stang Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,904	Congratulations but you already have mods lol so one more is not bad at all. Imo that's what you needed to do first most people love the gears.. __________________ *~For Newbies:* Rep are those little green squares, to give reputation click the gray scale, under the person you want to rep, then write why & name. Looking & buying soon a 01-04 Mustang GT

June 23rd, 2009, 07:03 PM	#4
RFM 40th V6 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 15.4@93.6 aka way too slow Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crofton MD Posts: 278	Well in an unexpected turn of events, the 3.73's are out of stock until mid august. On a lighter note, they upgraded me to 4.10's for free and all the parts are being overnighted for free too. Heck yes! __________________ 04 3.9l V6 Ford Tech \|Performance\| CAI, BBK Shorty Headers, Pypes Catted X-Pipe, Street Pro Mufflers, 4 Bank Eliminator w/ 93+ Tune \|Handling\| FRPP B Springs 1.5" Drop, BFG G-Force Sport Tires, Slotted & Cross Drilled Rotors

June 23rd, 2009, 09:36 PM	#6
01VBmustang Regular 2001 Mustang Convertible Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virginia Beach Posts: 127	Awesome man, you'll be pretty stoked! I had 4.10s installed in february and they're awesome, especially with the tuner. Gas mileage isnt that bad on the hwy either. __________________ BBK CAI. H pipe/dual flows. 4.10s and tlok. window tint. Bullits. SCT Tuner.

June 26th, 2009, 12:32 AM	#7
RFM 40th V6 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 15.4@93.6 aka way too slow Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crofton MD Posts: 278	Sweet. It all arrived today. Hopefully I'll get some lift time on Monday. Anyone know what the top end speed will be? I heard it was around 107 with 4.10's. Note that I don't have a speed limiter any more. __________________ 04 3.9l V6 Ford Tech \|Performance\| CAI, BBK Shorty Headers, Pypes Catted X-Pipe, Street Pro Mufflers, 4 Bank Eliminator w/ 93+ Tune \|Handling\| FRPP B Springs 1.5" Drop, BFG G-Force Sport Tires, Slotted & Cross Drilled Rotors

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June 23rd, 2009, 09:33 PM	#5
9986paulk Regular 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 137	Thats great, you'll love it. I have an auto and I did 3.73 (future plans for a turbo) motives and a t-lok, and an XCal 3. It was all great with the firmer shifts from the tuner. Now I don't even break the wheels loose from a dig. i guess the bullitt wheels helped too with the better tires and extra width. Good luck. and don't worry about gear whine, mine are doing fine. Its all in the install.

June 26th, 2009, 01:24 AM	#10
Big Daddys Stang Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,904	Are you sure? they do lower your top end but eitherway is recommendable cuz you will gain more acceleleration its proved on the 1/4 mile, but you can do better with gears.... __________________ *~For Newbies:* Rep are those little green squares, to give reputation click the gray scale, under the person you want to rep, then write why & name. Looking & buying soon a 01-04 Mustang GT

June 27th, 2009, 01:52 AM	#12
RFM 40th V6 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 15.4@93.6 aka way too slow Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crofton MD Posts: 278	UPDATE: I have the parts and I have assembled the ring and diff carrier. I'm just waiting for some lift time to put it all together. I know it's going to drop my track times. By how much, I'm not sure. __________________ 04 3.9l V6 Ford Tech \|Performance\| CAI, BBK Shorty Headers, Pypes Catted X-Pipe, Street Pro Mufflers, 4 Bank Eliminator w/ 93+ Tune \|Handling\| FRPP B Springs 1.5" Drop, BFG G-Force Sport Tires, Slotted & Cross Drilled Rotors

June 27th, 2009, 08:48 AM	#13
9986paulk Regular 1999 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Youngstown Posts: 137	There's no way you'll top out. With the tuner, your rev limiter is probably at 6000 and thats enough to get to over 150 if you have the power to get to even 5500 in OD.

June 29th, 2009, 03:00 AM	#14
RFM 40th V6 Regular 2004 Ford Mustang 15.4@93.6 aka way too slow Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Crofton MD Posts: 278	I don't have that kind of power just yet. Maybe by next summer. __________________ 04 3.9l V6 Ford Tech \|Performance\| CAI, BBK Shorty Headers, Pypes Catted X-Pipe, Street Pro Mufflers, 4 Bank Eliminator w/ 93+ Tune \|Handling\| FRPP B Springs 1.5" Drop, BFG G-Force Sport Tires, Slotted & Cross Drilled Rotors

June 29th, 2009, 07:21 PM	#17
ApeXX Regular Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 69	Let me know how it feels after the install. I'm getting mine done (3.73's) at a local shop for about $400 (including motive gears) in a week or two. Can't wait to see how she pulls after that!

July 1st, 2009, 03:05 AM	#19
risingerj Newbie 2004 3.9L V6 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Fort Sill, OK Posts: 23	install videos does anyone know where to view an install video of gears in a rear end? __________________ American Muscle: CAI, 18in GT4 Wheels, Shorty Antenna, Front Chin Spoiler. Moto Blue UD Pulley / Water Pump Pulley, Steeda Tri-Ax Shifter, White Face Guage Overlays, and custom true dual exhaust with Flo-Pro V Force mufflers.

July 1st, 2009, 03:11 AM	#20
Big Daddys Stang Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 V6 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,904	How to install your own gears!!! - Mustang Forums at StangNet This should help^ __________________ *~For Newbies:* Rep are those little green squares, to give reputation click the gray scale, under the person you want to rep, then write why & name. Looking & buying soon a 01-04 Mustang GT

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