LT or SHORTYS????

Stang808 · July 5th, 2009, 09:28 AM

Hey all well i still havent decided either to get the long tube ceramic headers or just the shorty ceramic headers i would like ur guys 2 cents in this matter...Does it really matter on which ones i get wats the diffrrence in power n sound?I u have a sound clip it would really help please post it here so i kno the difference n let me kno on ur set up much Aloha!

plstktnkr2 · July 5th, 2009, 10:28 AM

longtubes for NA motors, shorties for boosted motors

just a matter of how much torque you want to keep

orson250 · July 5th, 2009, 10:33 AM

generally what i would say is if you have the money for lt's buy them, unless there are special circumstances.

stangcharger · July 5th, 2009, 10:35 AM

Originally Posted by plstktnkr2

longtubes for NA motors, shorties for boosted motors

just a matter of how much torque you want to keep

Longtubes no matter what. shorties would be a restriction under boost.

plstktnkr2 · July 5th, 2009, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by stangcharger

Longtubes no matter what. shorties would be a restriction under boost.

how so? under boost, it's a matter of getting gas out faster.

long tubes are more restrictive in that sense

Cricket · July 5th, 2009, 11:29 AM

Originally Posted by plstktnkr2

how so? under boost, it's a matter of getting gas out faster.

long tubes are more restrictive in that sense

Yes, and no. You want to keep exhaust gasses seperated for the longest amount of time for more power. You will always keep the torque, just with longtubes it moves your powerband up so it feels like your losing torque when your not. Longtubes get the exhaust out faster because they go so long seperated before all mashing into the collector.

Longtubes will generally be the better option for power.

plstktnkr2 · July 5th, 2009, 11:59 AM

So in the upper RPM band you generate less scavenging effect, and this is good???

I know it's less critical on a V6 due to how the engine power-pulses occur,than on a V8

stangcharger · July 5th, 2009, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by plstktnkr2

So in the upper RPM band you generate less scavenging effect, and this is good???

I know it's less critical on a V6 due to how the engine power-pulses occur,than on a V8

I make over 350rwtq at around 3700-3800 RPM's. once boost kicks in at 2500 RPM's the torque is going to happen.

and also when you are on the throttle you are going to stay in the upper RPM range. carrying the torque into the upper RPM's is IMO wanted.

Long tubes have better gains in the upper RPM's and almost no loss down low either. there is a reason why almost no one with a v6 mustang is sugguested on other forums to go shorties. they don't see much gain over stock exhaust manifolds.

mooses · July 5th, 2009, 02:20 PM

Shorties are almost worthless on our cars. I don't see why anyone would choose shorties over long tubes. In summary: LTs >>> man love > shorties

04mustang232 · July 5th, 2009, 02:26 PM

long tubes without question.

2002 BLK GT · July 5th, 2009, 03:37 PM

The only reason some people go over the shorties is cuz of the price not to mentin that you will need a shorty midpipe...../ plus the installation it gets really pricey....
Yes longtube headers add more deep sound to the exhaust its proved so there's no need to bring some clips lol...

rfcsoulja · July 5th, 2009, 03:55 PM

You don't necessarily have to buy a shorty midpipe. Get a hacksaw and cut right after you 2nd pair of cats (it's gunna suck ass, but I did it and it worked), install the headers, then have a shop connect the rest of your midpipe to the headers.

Stang808 · July 6th, 2009, 08:38 PM

Thanks for the advise so it seems that everyone is saying to go LT so i guess LT it is thanks guys MAHALO

goren813 · July 7th, 2009, 09:25 AM

Good choice.

aussy2121 · July 7th, 2009, 04:50 PM

How does adding long tubes effect the sound of the car?

2002 BLK GT · July 7th, 2009, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by aussy2121

How does adding long tubes effect the sound of the car?

Cuz they're longer and have long turndowns..

BostonPerformance · July 8th, 2009, 01:43 PM

long tubes ftw

Codeman · July 9th, 2009, 10:09 AM

ok so i have a question if ur installing lts and u just cut the midpipe out like one person said. do you those first cats out or leave them? And then how hard is it to just get the lts in place without a lift and bolted up?

jmscobra · July 9th, 2009, 09:23 PM

LT's over shortys ANYDAY

00BlueMustang · July 9th, 2009, 10:43 PM

Originally Posted by Codeman

ok so i have a question if ur installing lts and u just cut the midpipe out like one person said. do you those first cats out or leave them? And then how hard is it to just get the lts in place without a lift and bolted up?

If you installing lts on your sixxer you will have to remove ALL of the cats

July 5th, 2009, 09:28 AM	#1
Stang808 Regular 2004 Mustang v6 3.9 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 137 iTrader: 0 reviews	LT or SHORTYS???? Hey all well i still havent decided either to get the long tube ceramic headers or just the shorty ceramic headers i would like ur guys 2 cents in this matter...Does it really matter on which ones i get wats the diffrrence in power n sound?I u have a sound clip it would really help please post it here so i kno the difference n let me kno on ur set up much Aloha!

July 5th, 2009, 10:28 AM	#2
plstktnkr2 Newbie 1983 Mustang GLX 'Vert Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Antietam Md Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 reviews	longtubes for NA motors, shorties for boosted motors just a matter of how much torque you want to keep __________________ 3 Mustangs 1 Lincoln Hearse 1 Lincoln ragtop 1 mercury Sable Savior of the 4-eyed 'stang

July 5th, 2009, 10:33 AM	#3
orson250 Regular 2003 mustang v6 232rwhp@7psi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: jackson, MS Posts: 244 iTrader: 0 reviews	generally what i would say is if you have the money for lt's buy them, unless there are special circumstances. __________________ V0rTech'D

July 5th, 2009, 11:59 AM	#7
plstktnkr2 Newbie 1983 Mustang GLX 'Vert Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Antietam Md Posts: 25 iTrader: 0 reviews	So in the upper RPM band you generate less scavenging effect, and this is good??? I know it's less critical on a V6 due to how the engine power-pulses occur,than on a V8 __________________ 3 Mustangs 1 Lincoln Hearse 1 Lincoln ragtop 1 mercury Sable Savior of the 4-eyed 'stang

July 5th, 2009, 03:37 PM	#11
2002 BLK GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1 & 02 GT *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S. California Posts: 2,178 iTrader: 0 reviews	The only reason some people go over the shorties is cuz of the price not to mentin that you will need a shorty midpipe...../ plus the installation it gets really pricey.... Yes longtube headers add more deep sound to the exhaust its proved so there's no need to bring some clips lol... __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Procharged 500rwhp club

July 5th, 2009, 02:20 PM	#9
mooses Regular Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 391 iTrader: 0 reviews	Shorties are almost worthless on our cars. I don't see why anyone would choose shorties over long tubes. In summary: LTs >>> man love > shorties

July 5th, 2009, 03:55 PM	#12
rfcsoulja Hardcore Enthusiast 01 True Blue v6 to slow to matter Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 1,141 iTrader: 0 reviews	You don't necessarily have to buy a shorty midpipe. Get a hacksaw and cut right after you 2nd pair of cats (it's gunna suck ass, but I did it and it worked), install the headers, then have a shop connect the rest of your midpipe to the headers.

July 6th, 2009, 08:38 PM	#13
Stang808 Regular 2004 Mustang v6 3.9 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hawaii Posts: 137 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanks for the advise so it seems that everyone is saying to go LT so i guess LT it is thanks guys MAHALO

July 7th, 2009, 09:25 AM	#14
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L & '05 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,620 iTrader: 0 reviews	Good choice. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

July 7th, 2009, 04:50 PM	#15
aussy2121 Newbie Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 10 iTrader: 0 reviews	How does adding long tubes effect the sound of the car?

July 8th, 2009, 01:43 PM	#17
BostonPerformance Enthusiast 99 Cherokee sport/87 5.0 not tested Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: san antonio, tx Posts: 987 iTrader: 0 reviews	long tubes ftw __________________ [CENTER]"Not the victory but the action; Not the goal but the game; In the deed the glory," -Hartley Burr Alexander

July 9th, 2009, 10:09 AM	#18
Codeman Hardcore Enthusiast Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: North Dakota Posts: 2,933 iTrader: 1 reviews	ok so i have a question if ur installing lts and u just cut the midpipe out like one person said. do you those first cats out or leave them? And then how hard is it to just get the lts in place without a lift and bolted up? __________________ UDP, CAI, True Duals, LTs, 91 Tune from TT, 3.73 gears, Tlok,Windstar upper, GT TB, Ported lower, Comp 218/226 cam, FRPP C Springs, J&M LCA, Tokico Blue shocks and struts, and J&M Full Length Subframe Connectors

July 9th, 2009, 09:23 PM	#19
jmscobra Regular 2001 Mustang V6 n/a Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Houston Posts: 95 iTrader: 0 reviews	LT's over shortys ANYDAY

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