clarification on lowering

orson250 · July 5th, 2009, 10:50 AM

so far i have done a decent amount of work on the engine of my car, but now i want to get some handling. what are the springs that most of you recommend for lowering. i dont want to go to low, but i want it to have a sporty, non 4x4 stance

. i will have a 03-04 cobra bumper coming in, and i would rather not scrape it up like my last bumper.

also, can someone tell me how low it has to be to need cc plates?

04mustang232 · July 5th, 2009, 02:27 PM

i think 2 inches requires cc plates. Eibach makes two kits, one for 2 inch, and one for 1.5. The 1.5 doesn't require cc plates.

ApeXX · July 5th, 2009, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by 04mustang232

i think 2 inches requires cc plates. Eibach makes two kits, one for 2 inch, and one for 1.5. The 1.5 doesn't require cc plates.

I would be careful with that though. A friend of mine lowered his Focus about 1.5 inches (somewhere around there, less than 2 inches) and didn't install cc plates. Now his tires wear unevenly and he has to get them replaced every 6-10k miles!

04mustang232 · July 5th, 2009, 03:34 PM

well, on a mustang, a shop can allign it fine with just 1.5 drop with the stop setup.

2002 BLK GT · July 5th, 2009, 04:09 PM

Eibach or H&R will be your best option.....

orson250 · July 5th, 2009, 05:35 PM

i was looking at the eibach prokit on AM because it doesn't lower a lot and i would be able to go over speed bumps without scraping while getting rid of that 4x4 look. i think i will skip the cc plates unless i start having bad problems with tire wear.

goren813 · July 6th, 2009, 09:28 AM

^ I have the same springs, look at my garage for all my mods. You WILL scrape on speed bumps, you WILL get rid of that 4x4 look, and you WILL need cc plates. Prokit claims 1.5" drop, with my set up I am 1.75" lower than stock ride height at the side skirt. Scrape on damn near everything. Without cc plates the camber would be terrible. I say do it all right off the jump and forget about it. CC plates aren't that expensive. All that being said I'm happy with my suspension set up, but will be going to a smaller front tire once these are done with to lessen the rub.

Regulator · July 6th, 2009, 09:50 AM

I've always heard good things about H&R springs, they offer a few different sets depending on how low you want

orson250 · July 6th, 2009, 04:44 PM

so would i be hitting stuff with h&r's or eibach's? goren how much ground clearance do you have?

2002 BLK GT · July 6th, 2009, 05:06 PM

You can get this ones... Ford racing they're cheap and good, they will lower your car 1.25 rear and front.
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WLJohnson05 · July 6th, 2009, 05:46 PM

i have the prokit on mine and its just perfect.
no cc plates, alignment is fine.
i do scrape if go over speed bumps straight, but slight angle takes care of it

Blainestang · July 6th, 2009, 10:04 PM

If you're really looking for handling, H&R springs with a significantly higher spring rate than stock would be the better choice. Of course, you the increase in spring rate makes it even more important that you upgrade your shocks and struts.

goren813 · July 7th, 2009, 09:24 AM

Meh, I could measure the clearance for you after work...it's not like my nuts drag but as johnson said, sideways over bumps and steep driveways or my manifolds scrape... really you can go without the cc plates, I did everything at one time to not worry about it, so I can't say how the car would be without them, but in my estimation, the way the camber is now (still not perfect, but no noticeable uneven wear and looks nice) I just wouldn't want to know how it was without them. I also put steeda ball joints and their bumpsteer kit on at the same time, so again I don't know what it would have been like without, but I'm glad I did.

fasterv6 · July 12th, 2009, 11:50 AM

yeah i installed the h&r kit to drop it 1.5 inches a few months ago
it was great and easy to install but i dunno how much lower you would wanna get with the cobra bumper, you really do scrape all over speedbumps and entrances to stores and stuff and that cobra bumper looks good but it wouldnt after a few speedbumps, it seems like itd be too low for everyday driving

03stanggg · July 13th, 2009, 04:23 PM

I got some steeda competition springs... i like them alot! 1.2" drop... and as goren420 said get CC plates... I tried to go without cc plates the first week and i would hear alot of clanking going on... once i got my MM CC plates it fixed the issue.... You will want some shocks/struts aswell

itschristorres8 · July 14th, 2009, 06:44 PM

eibach pro kit
you WILL end up getting a camber kit no matter WHAT spring setup you go with. wether it be C-springs or a 2.5inch drop.

RedDevilGT · July 14th, 2009, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by WLJohnson05

i have the prokit on mine and its just perfect.
no cc plates, alignment is fine.
i do scrape if go over speed bumps straight, but slight angle takes care of it

+1

I also have the pro-kit, and exactly what you said. Just go over the speed bumps at an angle and you won't scrape. Also no cc plates on mine and my alignment is fine.

I HIGHLY recommend the pro-kit. You won't be sorry

July 5th, 2009, 10:50 AM	#1
orson250 Regular 2003 mustang v6 232rwhp@7psi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: jackson, MS Posts: 244 iTrader: 0 reviews	clarification on lowering so far i have done a decent amount of work on the engine of my car, but now i want to get some handling. what are the springs that most of you recommend for lowering. i dont want to go to low, but i want it to have a sporty, non 4x4 stance . i will have a 03-04 cobra bumper coming in, and i would rather not scrape it up like my last bumper. also, can someone tell me how low it has to be to need cc plates? __________________ V0rTech'D

July 5th, 2009, 04:09 PM	#5
2002 BLK GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1 & 02 GT *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S. California Posts: 2,178 iTrader: 0 reviews	Eibach or H&R will be your best option..... __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Procharged 500rwhp club

July 5th, 2009, 05:35 PM	#6
orson250 Regular 2003 mustang v6 232rwhp@7psi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: jackson, MS Posts: 244 iTrader: 0 reviews	i was looking at the eibach prokit on AM because it doesn't lower a lot and i would be able to go over speed bumps without scraping while getting rid of that 4x4 look. i think i will skip the cc plates unless i start having bad problems with tire wear. __________________ V0rTech'D

July 6th, 2009, 09:28 AM	#7
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L & '05 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,620 iTrader: 0 reviews	^ I have the same springs, look at my garage for all my mods. You WILL scrape on speed bumps, you WILL get rid of that 4x4 look, and you WILL need cc plates. Prokit claims 1.5" drop, with my set up I am 1.75" lower than stock ride height at the side skirt. Scrape on damn near everything. Without cc plates the camber would be terrible. I say do it all right off the jump and forget about it. CC plates aren't that expensive. All that being said I'm happy with my suspension set up, but will be going to a smaller front tire once these are done with to lessen the rub. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

July 6th, 2009, 09:50 AM	#8
Regulator Regular 1999 Mustang GT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Louisville, Ky Posts: 177 iTrader: 0 reviews	I've always heard good things about H&R springs, they offer a few different sets depending on how low you want __________________ '99 GT FS/FT. Click here for details! "And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts, I looked and behold: a pale horse. And his name, that sat on him, was Death. And Hell followed with him."

July 6th, 2009, 04:44 PM	#9
orson250 Regular 2003 mustang v6 232rwhp@7psi Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: jackson, MS Posts: 244 iTrader: 0 reviews	so would i be hitting stuff with h&r's or eibach's? goren how much ground clearance do you have? __________________ V0rTech'D

July 6th, 2009, 05:06 PM	#10
2002 BLK GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1 & 02 GT *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S. California Posts: 2,178 iTrader: 0 reviews	You can get this ones... Ford racing they're cheap and good, they will lower your car 1.25 rear and front. Ford Racing Mustang C-Springs (79-04) at AmericanMuscle.com - Free Shipping! __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Procharged 500rwhp club

July 6th, 2009, 05:46 PM	#11
WLJohnson05 MM's Database Error 2004 Mustang V6 322.8 rwhp Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VA Posts: 13,285 iTrader: 9 reviews	i have the prokit on mine and its just perfect. no cc plates, alignment is fine. i do scrape if go over speed bumps straight, but slight angle takes care of it __________________ I'm trying to get rid of this stuff, feel free to make me an offer!: SCT Mass Air Flow Sensor $200 Tial Wastegate Springs $40 (10psi and 3.6psi)

July 6th, 2009, 10:04 PM	#12
Blainestang Regular Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 452 iTrader: 0 reviews	If you're really looking for handling, H&R springs with a significantly higher spring rate than stock would be the better choice. Of course, you the increase in spring rate makes it even more important that you upgrade your shocks and struts. __________________ 1993 2.3L Coupe [Motortopia] : Open-Track Project... 216k miles 2000 V6 (Black,5-speed) [Motortopia] : Heads/Cam (EXHAUST CLIP) 2001 Harley Davidson F-150 Acts 16:31

July 7th, 2009, 09:24 AM	#13
goren813 MM's Official Lucifer '00 3.8L & '05 4.6L Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Odessa, FL Posts: 3,620 iTrader: 0 reviews	Meh, I could measure the clearance for you after work...it's not like my nuts drag but as johnson said, sideways over bumps and steep driveways or my manifolds scrape... really you can go without the cc plates, I did everything at one time to not worry about it, so I can't say how the car would be without them, but in my estimation, the way the camber is now (still not perfect, but no noticeable uneven wear and looks nice) I just wouldn't want to know how it was without them. I also put steeda ball joints and their bumpsteer kit on at the same time, so again I don't know what it would have been like without, but I'm glad I did. __________________ "Fast she goes...in the city of Overdose"

July 12th, 2009, 11:50 AM	#14
fasterv6 Regular 2004 3.9L mustang v6 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: houston Posts: 69 iTrader: 0 reviews	yeah i installed the h&r kit to drop it 1.5 inches a few months ago it was great and easy to install but i dunno how much lower you would wanna get with the cobra bumper, you really do scrape all over speedbumps and entrances to stores and stuff and that cobra bumper looks good but it wouldnt after a few speedbumps, it seems like itd be too low for everyday driving

July 13th, 2009, 04:23 PM	#15
03stanggg Enthusiast 2003 v6 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: PA Posts: 529 iTrader: 2 reviews	I got some steeda competition springs... i like them alot! 1.2" drop... and as goren420 said get CC plates... I tried to go without cc plates the first week and i would hear alot of clanking going on... once i got my MM CC plates it fixed the issue.... You will want some shocks/struts aswell __________________

July 14th, 2009, 06:44 PM	#16
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	eibach pro kit you WILL end up getting a camber kit no matter WHAT spring setup you go with. wether it be C-springs or a 2.5inch drop. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

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