The Bottom Stock Project

itschristorres8 · July 9th, 2009, 07:56 PM

Just as I rebuilt the built motor not but a few days later I purchased a new 2009 GT mustang. Because of this I can now do what I've always wanted to try.
500rwhp on a STOCK 01-04 V6 3.8L bottom end!

The tearing apart of the built motor has already begun. With that motor I'am completely revising as well and constructing a new built motor while the stock motor is in play.

how?
new camshaft going in. probably a 218/218 .560-.570 lift 116-118 lsa area
New turbo pt67 or a 70-72mm
New big valve heads!
SSX intake or a modified split port ported upper.
ported lower
70mm accufab
Comp rockers
comp lifters
6300-6500rpm pull
all on top of a stock bottom end from an 01-04

Fuel will have to be 110 or C16
first goal
running-pump gas looking at 8psi 370-400rwhp area
second goal
after 1000miles of letting the bottom end see boost
110octane goes in 12psi 450rwhp goal min!!
should be fairly easy and reasonable considering on smaller cam, heads, and turbo i made previously 439rwhp on 12psi with 100octane reving to just 6000rpms

final goal
15psi 110 or C16 or Q16 500rwhp
At this point i dont predict it'll last to long though. Im hoping it'll at least last 2weeks(4-6 days of racing)

Depending how bad the motor blows if its just piston rings, i may just get some moly piston rings, cyro treat the rods and pistons and aim for anything higher.
basically the rings and rods are the weak point on the motor. the stock cast I-beam rod is like a chicken bone supporting a human. it'll only last so long. which i may consider only going to 6000rpms because of this.

Anyway once i find a stock bottom end the project begins!!!!

The fate of the built bottom will stay under wraps as far as motor specs

theyanks904 · July 9th, 2009, 08:17 PM

chris you are crazy as hell thats all i got to say .......
what happen to the 4.2?
......... mine should be done soon ill let you no the numbers

itschristorres8 · July 9th, 2009, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by theyanks904

chris you are crazy as hell thats all i got to say .......
what happen to the 4.2?
......... mine should be done soon ill let you no the numbers

4.2 i spun a rod running low on oil, the turbo slowly burned oil due to a bad oil return line routing and over time it burnt enough to leave only 2quarts in the pan
in return cylinder 2's connect rod lost oil and spun.
i put it back together but only have about 350miles on the new bearings

I'am taking it apart, new crank, doing some other things to the crank, might go with different rods, also will be getting different pistons most likely. I'am debating on that one.
but a few other things will be done to the entire motor. 100% correct like i really wanted it

2002 BLK GT · July 11th, 2009, 02:21 AM

Interesting....

Lt_Crazy · July 11th, 2009, 10:04 PM

All i have to say is have fun!?!? sounds doable

casper gt · July 11th, 2009, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by Big Daddys Stang

Interesting....

+1000000000.........good luck with it.

96b.boy · July 11th, 2009, 11:49 PM

nice let the battle of the stock bottom ends begin... migth i say your nuts for pushing a stock bottom that far but it'd be nice to see it done

04mustang232 · July 12th, 2009, 11:14 AM

Good luck chris

itschristorres8 · July 12th, 2009, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by 96b.boy

nice let the battle of the stock bottom ends begin... migth i say your nuts for pushing a stock bottom that far but it'd be nice to see it done

lol ohh it'll blow I'am sure of that at 500rwhp

But remember. at 439rwhp when i took apart my motor. that motor looked in AWSOME condition, bearings were fine, rods and pistons looked in very good condition. just 1-2bad piston rings. if thats the case with 450 or 500rwhp, as to the only reason its blown. I'll throw some moly or gapless rings and cyro treat the rods and pistons, then turn around and go for 550ish. i have no idea how good that treatment will be on stock rods

itschristorres8 · July 14th, 2009, 06:32 PM

Getting a windstar intake thrown on the car this time around
Im going to try to open it and make the throttle inlet bigger for it as well.
test both the windstar intake and the SSX. SSX will probably go on the built motor though. But depending how well the windstar responds that might not even be needed.
to many advantages to the windstar
heat
WEIGHT which is huge for me, I'am a power to weight nut. if its 2lbs off the front its coming off.

2002 BLK GT · July 14th, 2009, 08:16 PM

That will look great I hate our intake it looks bad, I was watching VAPs project dont remember if it was on 3.8 mustangs or stangnet.....

96b.boy · July 15th, 2009, 12:22 AM

chirs the biggest tb you can fit on a windstar is a 70mm any bigger needs a spacer and bottle necks down .a stock 2v 4.6 tb is pushing it

July 9th, 2009, 07:56 PM	#1
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	The Bottom Stock Project Just as I rebuilt the built motor not but a few days later I purchased a new 2009 GT mustang. Because of this I can now do what I've always wanted to try. 500rwhp on a STOCK 01-04 V6 3.8L bottom end! The tearing apart of the built motor has already begun. With that motor I'am completely revising as well and constructing a new built motor while the stock motor is in play. how? new camshaft going in. probably a 218/218 .560-.570 lift 116-118 lsa area New turbo pt67 or a 70-72mm New big valve heads! SSX intake or a modified split port ported upper. ported lower 70mm accufab Comp rockers comp lifters 6300-6500rpm pull all on top of a stock bottom end from an 01-04 Fuel will have to be 110 or C16 first goal running-pump gas looking at 8psi 370-400rwhp area second goal after 1000miles of letting the bottom end see boost 110octane goes in 12psi 450rwhp goal min!! should be fairly easy and reasonable considering on smaller cam, heads, and turbo i made previously 439rwhp on 12psi with 100octane reving to just 6000rpms final goal 15psi 110 or C16 or Q16 500rwhp At this point i dont predict it'll last to long though. Im hoping it'll at least last 2weeks(4-6 days of racing) Depending how bad the motor blows if its just piston rings, i may just get some moly piston rings, cyro treat the rods and pistons and aim for anything higher. basically the rings and rods are the weak point on the motor. the stock cast I-beam rod is like a chicken bone supporting a human. it'll only last so long. which i may consider only going to 6000rpms because of this. Anyway once i find a stock bottom end the project begins!!!! The fate of the built bottom will stay under wraps as far as motor specs __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

July 11th, 2009, 02:21 AM	#4
2002 BLK GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1 & 02 GT *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S. California Posts: 2,178 iTrader: 0 reviews	Interesting.... __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Procharged 500rwhp club

July 11th, 2009, 10:04 PM	#5
Lt_Crazy Enthusiast Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 856 iTrader: 0 reviews	All i have to say is have fun!?!? sounds doable __________________ The difference between Fiction and Reality??? Fiction has to make sense. -Tom Clancy

July 11th, 2009, 11:49 PM	#7
96b.boy Regular boosted v6 11.90@114 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 114 iTrader: 0 reviews	nice let the battle of the stock bottom ends begin... migth i say your nuts for pushing a stock bottom that far but it'd be nice to see it done __________________ 3/4 turbo stang Last edited by 96b.boy; July 11th, 2009 at 11:53 PM.

July 14th, 2009, 06:32 PM	#10
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,806 iTrader: 2 reviews	Getting a windstar intake thrown on the car this time around Im going to try to open it and make the throttle inlet bigger for it as well. test both the windstar intake and the SSX. SSX will probably go on the built motor though. But depending how well the windstar responds that might not even be needed. to many advantages to the windstar heat WEIGHT which is huge for me, I'am a power to weight nut. if its 2lbs off the front its coming off. __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

July 9th, 2009, 08:17 PM	#2
theyanks904 Regular 1996 ford mustang Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: land o lakes FL Posts: 268 iTrader: 0 reviews	chris you are crazy as hell thats all i got to say ....... what happen to the 4.2? ......... mine should be done soon ill let you no the numbers

July 14th, 2009, 08:16 PM	#11
2002 BLK GT Hardcore Enthusiast 03 Mach 1 & 02 GT *************** Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: S. California Posts: 2,178 iTrader: 0 reviews	That will look great I hate our intake it looks bad, I was watching VAPs project dont remember if it was on 3.8 mustangs or stangnet..... __________________ 2003 Mach 1 Procharged 500rwhp club

July 15th, 2009, 12:22 AM	#12
96b.boy Regular boosted v6 11.90@114 Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 114 iTrader: 0 reviews	chirs the biggest tb you can fit on a windstar is a 70mm any bigger needs a spacer and bottle necks down .a stock 2v 4.6 tb is pushing it __________________ 3/4 turbo stang

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