Super Charger or Turbo Charger

20cooper08 · August 28th, 2009, 12:20 AM

I have heard many mixed emotions about super chargers and turbo chargers and just cant decide on wich one I want to go with, I have heard that superchargers are much easier to work with and turbo chargers or more difficult but are worth it.

20cooper08 · August 28th, 2009, 12:27 AM

I also have a friend with an older cougar xr7 3.8 supercharged and i thought about buying the car for the motor but i have heard that the superchargers on those arent that great, and I am also open to suggestions about what any body eles has done for head work and what cam they have used

ReverendDexter · August 28th, 2009, 12:30 AM

What's the goal for the car? How do you use it? How would you like to use it?

This is a long running debate because the answer is different based on your needs and wants.

20cooper08 · August 28th, 2009, 12:39 AM

Well the goal for the car is to be some where around the 450 rwhp range and to be a mid to low 11 second car, and for now its a daily driver but i plan to buy something eles to drive and restore my car because of the rust

white03v6 · August 28th, 2009, 12:50 AM

<<< would go with turbocharger

itschristorres8 · August 28th, 2009, 01:14 AM

turbo

ReverendDexter · August 28th, 2009, 01:17 AM

Originally Posted by 20cooper08

Well the goal for the car is to be some where around the 450 rwhp range and to be a mid to low 11 second car, and for now its a daily driver but i plan to buy something eles to drive and restore my car because of the rust

Okay, I know this isn't the answer you want to hear, but have you priced out the difference between the mods required for your car to do that (reliably, you can't just add power and call it good), and the purchase price of a GT plus the mods to get into that range, minus what you could sell your car for?

ChrisTorres seems to be the resident expert on getting gobs of power out of a V6, you might ask him what sort of budget you'll need for that power goal.

I would say you're DEFINITELY looking at a turbocharger, though. If you're not looking for streetability, I'd go with a big single. It'll be laggy, but it'll make more peak power, and that's all you're concerned about.

20cooper08 · August 28th, 2009, 01:21 AM

Well i have looked at the gts ya they are great but no, there is not one person in my area that has a fast v6 and i just want to be more origanal im not trying to be an ass its just what ive wanted to do ever since i bought my car and my car is just going to be a street toy i plan on having another car to drive while i build this one, i just got done looking at the 2010 gts

6ER THEN I 8ER! · August 28th, 2009, 01:36 AM

well...with enough money anything can be fast so good look...

ReverendDexter · August 28th, 2009, 01:42 AM

Originally Posted by 20cooper08

Well i have looked at the gts ya they are great but no, there is not one person in my area that has a fast v6 and i just want to be more origanal

When it comes to cars and modding, what's popular is usually for a reason, and what's unusual is also very much for a reason.

I'm not trying to dissuade you from your goal, I just want you to do the homework and understand the time and money you'll need to invest to achieve it.

20cooper08 · August 28th, 2009, 01:46 AM

Thanx for the respect and i realize that this project is going to cost more then it would cost to build a 4.6 but for now im just trying to work with what i got, but a better job is on the way so im hoping to start on my car next spring or summer.

Trick Tuners · August 28th, 2009, 09:16 AM

A turbo is always better, but it costs way more and will have a more involved install. Many times turbos are not smog legal and that is why you don't see more of them.

Curt@BMCPerformance · August 28th, 2009, 11:50 AM

personally i'd go with a supercharger. But like everyone stated, its more of a personal preference. If you want low end power go with a supercharger, if you want more preference towards top end peak, go with a turbo. Superchargers are more costly. But it also depends on which type you get. For example Centerfugial types will run very similar to a turbo style setup in terms of how they react. Whereas a twin screw setup will act different from a CF type. etc. etc.

Blitz34 · August 28th, 2009, 11:11 PM

Well, I think for that much power out of a V6 you need twin turbo power, or a really big turbo.

I dont really see a V6 getting that much with a single though simply because a mustang GT averages around 400 with a Supercharger and maybe more on a turbo?

what I mean is it would depend on supporting mods as well. Turbo is better on the engine.

Im not sure how much power a stock 3.8 can handle but in your case, I would twin turbo that thing and kill the competition. lol

white03v6 · August 28th, 2009, 11:33 PM

a good single turbo set up will be able to take the V6 to 450rwhp.

RedDevilGT · August 29th, 2009, 12:47 AM

Both

itschristorres8 · August 29th, 2009, 07:25 PM

Originally Posted by Blitz34

Well, I think for that much power out of a V6 you need twin turbo power, or a really big turbo.

I dont really see a V6 getting that much with a single though simply because a mustang GT averages around 400 with a Supercharger and maybe more on a turbo?

what I mean is it would depend on supporting mods as well. Turbo is better on the engine.

Im not sure how much power a stock 3.8 can handle but in your case, I would twin turbo that thing and kill the competition. lol

SC44 and 60-1 are not big turbos....500rwhp done on it
440rwhp done on a stock bottom end with a sc44 .68 a/r
which is like a lil 44trim

a stock bottom end v6 is about as strong as a 99-04 GT's bottom end.

400+ is a matter of time usually

Ninjawafers! · August 29th, 2009, 07:43 PM

a single turbo will be plenty for you.

WhtStang00 · August 31st, 2009, 01:51 AM

ya go with a single turbo

stangcharger · August 31st, 2009, 11:37 AM

Originally Posted by Blitz34

Well, I think for that much power out of a V6 you need twin turbo power, or a really big turbo.

I dont really see a V6 getting that much with a single though simply because a mustang GT averages around 400 with a Supercharger and maybe more on a turbo?

what I mean is it would depend on supporting mods as well. Turbo is better on the engine.

Im not sure how much power a stock 3.8 can handle but in your case, I would twin turbo that thing and kill the competition. lol

I made 436rwhp with stock intakes a 2 core intercooler on 15psi on 93oct with a p1-sc procharger the base line model.

you don't need a big turbo or twins. those would be needed if you want 600rwhp+.

It is what you want to do. a supercharger of a d1-sc caliber or higher can easily get you there with supporting mods. Turbo will get there easier, but will be more involved.

Intake and a cam are going to get the best gains out of the big mods with a supercharger or turbo. the heads are actually better than people think. that is proof by that gentleman on v6power making 234rwhp with cam and intakes, heads were stock.

August 28th, 2009, 12:20 AM	#1
20cooper08 Newbie 2000 V6 Mustang Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Madison Iowa Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	Super Charger or Turbo Charger I have heard many mixed emotions about super chargers and turbo chargers and just cant decide on wich one I want to go with, I have heard that superchargers are much easier to work with and turbo chargers or more difficult but are worth it.

August 28th, 2009, 12:30 AM	#3
ReverendDexter Priest of the Car Gods Clapped-out '90 GT 'vert ~5.5 seconds off TTOD :( Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Rohnert Park, CA Posts: 13,233 iTrader: 0 reviews	What's the goal for the car? How do you use it? How would you like to use it? This is a long running debate because the answer is different based on your needs and wants. __________________ O o /¯/______________________ \|BLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!! \_\ Buy my Bronco, special deal for MM folks

August 28th, 2009, 12:50 AM	#5
white03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 V6 Mustang Too long@Too slow Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 2,672 iTrader: 1 reviews	<<< would go with turbocharger __________________ NCMM Co-Founder NCMM Website NCMM Forums

August 28th, 2009, 01:14 AM	#6
itschristorres8 Banned 00 V6 & 09 GT 13.37@104.4mph--BONE stock GT Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: south florida Posts: 15,859 iTrader: 2 reviews	turbo __________________ [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC] Acmillr loves me

August 28th, 2009, 01:36 AM	#9
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August 28th, 2009, 12:27 AM	#2
20cooper08 Newbie 2000 V6 Mustang Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Madison Iowa Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	I also have a friend with an older cougar xr7 3.8 supercharged and i thought about buying the car for the motor but i have heard that the superchargers on those arent that great, and I am also open to suggestions about what any body eles has done for head work and what cam they have used

August 28th, 2009, 12:39 AM	#4
20cooper08 Newbie 2000 V6 Mustang Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Madison Iowa Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well the goal for the car is to be some where around the 450 rwhp range and to be a mid to low 11 second car, and for now its a daily driver but i plan to buy something eles to drive and restore my car because of the rust

August 28th, 2009, 01:21 AM	#8
20cooper08 Newbie 2000 V6 Mustang Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Madison Iowa Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	Well i have looked at the gts ya they are great but no, there is not one person in my area that has a fast v6 and i just want to be more origanal im not trying to be an ass its just what ive wanted to do ever since i bought my car and my car is just going to be a street toy i plan on having another car to drive while i build this one, i just got done looking at the 2010 gts

August 28th, 2009, 01:46 AM	#11
20cooper08 Newbie 2000 V6 Mustang Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Ft. Madison Iowa Posts: 19 iTrader: 0 reviews	Thanx for the respect and i realize that this project is going to cost more then it would cost to build a 4.6 but for now im just trying to work with what i got, but a better job is on the way so im hoping to start on my car next spring or summer.

August 28th, 2009, 09:16 AM	#12
Trick Tuners MM Fanatic KB'd GT Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: San Diego Posts: 4,471 iTrader: 3 reviews	A turbo is always better, but it costs way more and will have a more involved install. Many times turbos are not smog legal and that is why you don't see more of them. __________________ Check out my forums for stuff on troubleshooting, tuning, etc We teamed up with Socal Performance Racing to bring dyno tuning to San Diego. Be friends with us on FB

August 28th, 2009, 11:50 AM	#13
Curt@BMCPerformance Regular 2005 Mustang GT Stock-13.420 @103.42 Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 103 iTrader: 0 reviews	personally i'd go with a supercharger. But like everyone stated, its more of a personal preference. If you want low end power go with a supercharger, if you want more preference towards top end peak, go with a turbo. Superchargers are more costly. But it also depends on which type you get. For example Centerfugial types will run very similar to a turbo style setup in terms of how they react. Whereas a twin screw setup will act different from a CF type. etc. etc.

August 28th, 2009, 11:11 PM	#14
Blitz34 Hardcore Enthusiast 2002 Mustang GT 13.907@99.85 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Louisiana Posts: 1,476 iTrader: 11 reviews	Well, I think for that much power out of a V6 you need twin turbo power, or a really big turbo. I dont really see a V6 getting that much with a single though simply because a mustang GT averages around 400 with a Supercharger and maybe more on a turbo? what I mean is it would depend on supporting mods as well. Turbo is better on the engine. Im not sure how much power a stock 3.8 can handle but in your case, I would twin turbo that thing and kill the competition. lol

August 28th, 2009, 11:33 PM	#15
white03v6 Hardcore Enthusiast 2003 V6 Mustang Too long@Too slow Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NC Posts: 2,672 iTrader: 1 reviews	a good single turbo set up will be able to take the V6 to 450rwhp. __________________ NCMM Co-Founder NCMM Website NCMM Forums

August 29th, 2009, 12:47 AM	#16
RedDevilGT BF3 FTW 2005 Mustang GT 2001 Mustang V6 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,565 iTrader: 0 reviews	Both __________________ 01' V6 SCT tuned, Dual Flowmasters & H-pipe, 8000k 35w HID's, Steeda Short Shifter, BBK CAI, Eibach pro-kit, 3.73's and t-lok. 05' GT: Pypes Pype Bomb's, Shorty Antenna, Painted Mirror covers, Decklid Panel.

August 29th, 2009, 07:43 PM	#18
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August 31st, 2009, 01:51 AM	#19
WhtStang00 Hardcore Enthusiast 2000 Mustang V6 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: CStat, Texas Posts: 1,006 iTrader: 1 reviews	ya go with a single turbo __________________ White 2000 V6 Mustang\|Black Saleens 18x9\|Flowmaster 40s\|AM CAI\|8000K HIDs\|SCT XCAL III/H&R SS

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