[riddlee josh]

so what is the max with a v6. n/a and fi?

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by riddlee josh so what is the max with a v6. n/a and fi?

there is no max
no one has even come close to pushing the limits on either.

[riddlee josh]

hmm well it would certainly be neat to see something around 750HP. with FI of coarse. whats your highest soo far? i know you had it pretty high for a while didn't you?

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by riddlee josh hmm well it would certainly be neat to see something around 750HP. with FI of coarse. whats your highest soo far? i know you had it pretty high for a while didn't you?

i only was making 500whp (497rwhp to be exact.)
that was pump gas and an older setup

Next numbers will be close to something you wana see.
unless i find a supercoupe motor i'll try for about 550 on that motor

[riddlee josh]

wow those are some nice numbers. good luck and keep it up.

oh and since you are on rite now i will ask. how hard is it to swap my motor out and put in a 2002 split port motor. and do you think that $500 dollars is a good price for a 2002 motor with 54,000 miles on it? and do i need the ecu from the 2002 motor?

[itschristorres8]

you dont need the ECU but get it anyway.
the 02 has IMRC's that need to be deleted or tuned with.
$500 is a little more then i'd want to pay for a v6 motor but probably worth it.

[riddlee josh]

well i ask if he would take 300 for it and he said the lowest he would take is 400 so i am gonna see if maybe we can meet in the middle at 350.

[itschristorres8]

$350-400 is good

[riddlee josh]

ight thanks man.

[Codeman]

ok i thought that 300 rwhp was possible. i mean ik it is going to take time and money but im going to college to be an engine rebuilder. I am hoping to find some good porters along the way and maybe get my heads and intake done. It is just a goal I have had to have 300rwhp all motor. Then once that is done im gonna throw a little nitrous in the mix for fun. Like chris said with the small amount of aftermarket for these motors there are still tons of potential.

[itschristorres8]

300hp is possible with the after market we have.its not nearly as bizzare as most are saying on here.
that green fox with a t5 and tuned on race gas would have hit 300whp.

actually you could probably budget build a n/a 300hp

ported BV heads
ported lower
big cam
windstar upper
high 10:5:1 or 11:1 compression
polished crank journels
crank scrapper
balance shaft removed
avg bolt ons
aluminum flywheel and drive shaft
T5 tranny
detriot trutrac 7.5
then some light wheels out back

and just tune it with Q16. Q16 is some crazy fuel much better then C16. Just switching the fuel form C16 to Q16 I've seen someone gain 30WHP, it was on a boost 600+setup though.
either way if you can gain 10whp through tuning and that fuel thats damn good

[Codeman]

alright thanks chris. i like the positive help. i am hoping to do my heads soon. I dont know yet when I will have some money but Ill shoot you a pm on more specific stuff when I get down to it.

[ReverendDexter]

Chris, that Honda's a pretty poor example if you're trying to show what can be done with a Ford 3.8L. For one, you're comparing an economy pushrod motor to a DOHC setup that's variable cam timing/lift. I'd be willing to be that single Honda head outflows both of the heads on the Mustang V6. I'm at work, so I didn't watch the video, but I'm guessing that motor was spinning 9k+ to make the power it did. At the very least, you'll need a forged crank if you expect a 3.8L to see that rpm and not scatter. I know there's no factory forged sixxer cranks, are the stoker kits offered with a forged crank? (honest question) Even then, there's not that many pushrod motors that are turning over 8k.

I'm not gonna say it's not possible to make a 300hp pump gas 3.8L V6, as Hyundai sells one right now, and Nissan sells a 320hp 3.7L (both doing it with DOHC/variable cam motors). I think that you have a lot working against you though if you expect to build a Ford 3.8L to that kind of power level without a lot of custom fabrication.

Do you have an example of someone who's making 300whp or better with a Mustang V6? (again, honest question).

[Toph6888]

Chris, that Honda's a pretty poor example if you're trying to show what can be done with a Ford 3.8L. For one, you're comparing an economy pushrod motor to a DOHC setup that's variable cam timing/lift. I'd be willing to be that single Honda head outflows both of the heads on the Mustang V6. I'm at work, so I didn't watch the video, but I'm guessing that motor was spinning 9k+ to make the power it did. At the very least, you'll need a forged crank if you expect a 3.8L to see that rpm and not scatter. I know there's no factory forged sixxer cranks, are the stoker kits offered with a forged crank? (honest question) Even then, there's not that many pushrod motors that are turning over 8k. I'm not gonna say it's not possible to make a 300hp pump gas 3.8L V6, as Hyundai sells one right now, and Nissan sells a 320hp 3.7L (both doing it with DOHC/variable cam motors). I think that you have a lot working against you though if you expect to build a Ford 3.8L to that kind of power level without a lot of custom fabrication. Do you have an example of someone who's making 300whp or better with a Mustang V6? (again, honest question).

correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the supercoupe 3.8 have a forged crankshaft?

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by Toph6888 correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the supercoupe 3.8 have a forged crankshaft?

Oh, that would make sense... I honestly don't know.

[v606er]

As of today, I am saving money to get the stage 2+ http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...1HeadsCams.pdf from super six. If that money actually ends up going into this plan or not, we'll just have to see.

How long does it usually take for this kind of modification to be done?

[Redux]

Originally Posted by Toph6888 correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the supercoupe 3.8 have a forged crankshaft?

That is correct.

[Redux]

Originally Posted by v606er As of today, I am saving money to get the stage 2+ http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...1HeadsCams.pdf from super six. If that money actually ends up going into this plan or not, we'll just have to see. How long does it usually take for this kind of modification to be done?

SSM takes FOREVER.

[Codeman]

ok well ik that it will probably take me a couple years and obviously trial and error to get 300rwhp, but i just want to prove that the v6 can make that kind of power. I am not planning on keeping the 3.8 im planning on putting all forged internals with a 4.3 stroker kit with hi comp pistons, the best ported heads i can with big valves, all the added valvetrain upgrades, cam, lower intake port, windstar upper, and all the necessary bolt ons. I mean if the 10sec v6 on nitrous makes 265 with i believe an 8.8 and c4, right there if i will be making up a difference, im running the t5 with the 7.5 which is a lighter differential, so it will be less power loss when spinning. I just feel that it can be done. I guess only time will tell.

[v606er]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 1000whp all motor pump gas v6 3.8 base motor. impossible.

Originally Posted by Redux SSM takes FOREVER.

Please tell me you don't know what you're talking about. What do you mean, 'forever?" ?????