[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by ESG-642T Highest N/A hp.. on v6p.net: 264.8/280 Stock 4.2L bottomend, Longtube headers, RPM Gen1 BV Heads, 207/215 camshaft, Stage 1 Lower and Modified Upper intake, MAC CAI, Dual Magnaflows w/ X-pipe, UD Pulley, 70mm TB So, with the right upper, cnc heads, some compression, maybe a custom set of long tubes, better parts to spin it up to 7k, cnc lower without the egr bungs at all, more well matched cam. You could prob pick up that 36rwhp.

Okay, cool, thanks ESG. Reps for some good info.

I do have one question, though, how is a 4.2L bottom end "stock"? I thought all 4.2s were stroker kits?

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter Okay, cool, thanks ESG. Reps for some good info. I do have one question, though, how is a 4.2L bottom end "stock"? I thought all 4.2s were stroker kits?

Well,
If you grab a 4.2L engine out of an f150 that's how you get "stock" bottom end.

[Codeman]

ok so ESG do you know any places online that I could send the heads to get cnc? cuz I don't have any places around me.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by Codeman ok so ESG do you know any places online that I could send the heads to get cnc? cuz I don't have any places around me.

Make sure you wanna go ahead with that, your looking at about a 2500$ set of cylinder heads here.

[ReverendDexter]

Originally Posted by ESG-642T Well, If you grab a 4.2L engine out of an f150 that's how you get "stock" bottom end.

Ah, good to know. Thanks again

[Codeman]

ok well i guess i will have to do some thinking. i mean is there other ways ESG to get there with hand porting them? I mean I was looking at this http://www.supersixmotorsports.com/p...05WriteUp3.pdf . On here he makes 278 rwhp n/a. And it looks like they still are using the belt driven water pump, and I am planning on going electric to help a little. And with the same everything they had, and me having the t5 and 7.5 would that make up the difference? And I plan on when I do this getting an aluminum drive shaft and aluminum flywheel to reduce weight to hopefully free up a little more power. You guys think it is possible ?

[ESG-642T]

That's called advertising, SSMS's car really made:
259.2...

And that was 10:5:1 c/r , bored .045 over, no a/c or power steering IIRC.

In other words the project is gonna get expensive quick, and somebody who spent 1/2 of what you spent on a supercharger setup and bolt ons, or a 6-8psi turbo kit will be putting you in the rear view.

[stangcharger]

Originally Posted by ESG-642T That's called advertising, SSMS's car really made: 259.2... And that was 10:5:1 c/r , bored .045 over, no a/c or power steering IIRC. In other words the project is gonna get expensive quick, and somebody who spent 1/2 of what you spent on a supercharger setup and bolt ons, or a 6-8psi turbo kit will be putting you in the rear view.

x2.

The reason it hasn't been done is this right here. why spend all that money to hit under 300rwhp when a superhcarger puts you there with little else done, and has more potential down the road.

ESG knows his shit. helped me out on acouple of occasions.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by stangcharger x2. The reason it hasn't been done is this right here. why spend all that money to hit under 300rwhp when a superhcarger puts you there with little else done, and has more potential down the road. ESG knows his shit. helped me out on acouple of occasions.

Infact, I still need to get a part from you sir , get on AIM I haven't gotten any updates on the car lately!!

[Codeman]

Hey ESG thanks! I really mean it. I mean with the 278 it seemed doable for not much since I was hoping to do a 4.3 with h/c/i, but now that I saw that. Well Idk I guess maybe one day I will try it if i get enough money. Idk what I am gonna do to my car. I mean is it possible to run nitrous on a f/i car? Cuz I would like to get nitrous to hold me over until I can get money for the more expensive work.

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by Codeman Hey ESG thanks! I really mean it. I mean with the 278 it seemed doable for not much since I was hoping to do a 4.3 with h/c/i, but now that I saw that. Well Idk I guess maybe one day I will try it if i get enough money. Idk what I am gonna do to my car. I mean is it possible to run nitrous on a f/i car? Cuz I would like to get nitrous to hold me over until I can get money for the more expensive work.

Saving is your friend right now... Because, buy the time you buy a nitrous kit (unless used of course) and all the safety features you'll be 1-1,200$ deep. Then nitrous refills and such. But yes you can use nitrous with F/I just puts more strain on your motor. If you get a turbo kit you can make as much power as you will ever need with just the turbo alone.

[Codeman]

ok. well I need to fig out what would be the best option. Idk I want power now and I can afford the nitrous, but idk what to do. lol Ok so I am gonna officially say this, maybe with resonable money it is not capable of 300hp n/a, i am not saying the v6 ain't becuase a lot of things are possible with the right amount of money.

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang Now there is the Chris we know. Welcome back.

Sorry if I'm so honesty you cant handle it and have to eliminate me

Originally Posted by ReverendDexter Chris, you're so easy to troll, hahaha. On a more serious note, what *exactly* have I said that's ignorant and close minded? It seems to me that you're so convinced that I'm attacking your favorite motor that you just go all rabid defending it rather correcting anything I've said that's wrong.

what did you say that was ignorant and close minded. one your poor attempt at my comparrison
2-your lack of knowledge about the motor automatically concludes you have no reason being in the topic of debate, let alone debating.
Thats like the manager of Burger King defending OJ on trial vs a law school grad....
everyone else is wondering why the F**k is mr BK lawyering?!
Why the hell are you saying somethings not possible and you dont even have a clue.


if your need a more narrowed and straight foward answer open a dictionary

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 Sorry if I'm so honesty you cant handle it and have to eliminate me what did you say that was ignorant and close minded. one your poor attempt at my comparrison 2-your lack of knowledge about the motor automatically concludes you have no reason being in the topic of debate, let alone debating. Thats like the manager of Burger King defending OJ on trial vs a law school grad.... everyone else is wondering why the F**k is mr BK lawyering?! Why the hell are you saying somethings not possible and you dont even have a clue. if your need a more narrowed and straight foward answer open a dictionary

Wow.

How can you even walk with cahones as big as your must be to post like this and believe it.

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by Codeman ok. well I need to fig out what would be the best option. Idk I want power now and I can afford the nitrous, but idk what to do. lol Ok so I am gonna officially say this, maybe with resonable money it is not capable of 300hp n/a, i am not saying the v6 ain't becuase a lot of things are possible with the right amount of money.

Get nitrous...its fun and easy and improves power greatly.
not to mention these cars all motor would have you bored. even if you made 300hp...you'll always wonder what another 125+shot would do.


remember if you want 1/4 times. 300rwhp shouldnt be your goal. Building a well thought out motor and setup should be your goal.
I LOVE banging gears. soon I will have to give that up because a C4 or glide is going to put me .5 of second or more faster then the manual tranny ever will.
Making power is cool and all but meaningless.....
I've seen a built 650whp supra run 13s! not even low 13s a 13.6! best of 13.4....
now on the other hand I've seen a 240sx with a 2JZ in it making 540rwhp with bottle and boost and run 9.99@146...stock supra tranny...

650whp honda running 10.02
all motor 300whp honda running 9.68@140+


difference? the setup in the 240 is spec'd out and designed a whole lot better resulting in 3 1/2 seconds faster

hondas same thing only the 650hp is still thought up pretty well

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang Wow. How can you even walk with cahones as big as your must be to post like this and believe it.

hey at least if I pushed you i'd give you a reason why. not hide and think about an excuse

[Codeman]

alright, i guess i will just start setting goals for myself at the track, and go from there with my mods, say the nitrous aint enough then add some f/i and so on so on lol ik it is never ending. but that is part of the fun!

[itschristorres8]

f/i setups to blend well with a motor built for n/a

[ESG-642T]

Originally Posted by itschristorres8 Get nitrous...its fun and easy and improves power greatly. not to mention these cars all motor would have you bored. even if you made 300hp...you'll always wonder what another 125+shot would do. remember if you want 1/4 times. 300rwhp shouldnt be your goal. Building a well thought out motor and setup should be your goal. I LOVE banging gears. soon I will have to give that up because a C4 or glide is going to put me .5 of second or more faster then the manual tranny ever will. Making power is cool and all but meaningless..... I've seen a built 650whp supra run 13s! not even low 13s a 13.6! best of 13.4.... now on the other hand I've seen a 240sx with a 2JZ in it making 540rwhp with bottle and boost and run 9.99@146...stock supra tranny... 650whp honda running 10.02 all motor 300whp honda running 9.68@140+ difference? the setup in the 240 is spec'd out and designed a whole lot better resulting in 3 1/2 seconds faster hondas same thing only the 650hp is still thought up pretty well

That, and Chris you've gotta also factor int he WEIGHT of a 240 and weight distribution with a 2jz swapped into one.

[Codeman]

ya so maybe i will just start by getting nitrous, then get a windstar intake, and then hand port my lower and remove the imrc butterflies, and then send the heads to get ported and polished and bv with a cam and rockers and a cam. How does it work if i delete the imrc? can i just adjust it with my x3? And for the egr system, if i go with the windstar can i delete that and then adjust the tune in my x3? and if i do delete both of those what will be the negative effects, if any?